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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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...are you suggesting some self-reliant pride on my part or what were you trying to convey there?

I fully support self-reliance. I've taken even further steps, removed from society at large during the outbreak, essentially living off-grid and off-the-land. If there's a sense of self-reliant pride, I share that with you.

I'm just curious, are you for a "global reset" but not for the "great reset"?

I'm neither for nor against, but the status quo sure isn't working. I hope for the best, but prepared just in case, as I've said many times, have a plan B and plan C.
 
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Trump this, Trump that, and so on.. Also what we've been discussing already on pollution and our differing positions on climate change.

On the matter of Trump, I've also said that if I were an American, I probably would've voted for him in 2016. But, after 4 years of his lies and disagenda, it appears I'm not the only one who thinks he ought to find another vocation.
 
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But, after 4 years of his lies and his misagenda, it appears I'm not the only one who thinks he ought to find another vocation.
When you say misagenda you made sure everyone in this thread knows it's about his policies on environment. Are there other policies of his that you would include in the misagenda category?
 
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its going to take some muscle to squash this .. the sooner people get in tune with that .. the better things will get
 
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When you say misagenda you made sure everyone in this thread knows it's about his policies on environment. Are there other policies of his that you would include in the misagenda category?

Don't get me started, lol. :tightlyclosedeyes:

I've been vocal on a number of issues, but you are correct regarding his policies concerning the environment. I suppose if I were living in a New York penthouse, flying my own personal jet everywhere to make more money, I might have a different opinion. Personally, I prefer the songs of birds and whales to political lullabies and the relaxing sounds of fracking and drilling. :headphone:
 
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its going to take some muscle to squash this .. the sooner people get in tune with that .. the better things will get

There is a silent war going on as we speak. This will be a tough fight against something that has been planned for years.



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There is a silent war going on as we speak. This will be a tough fight against something that has been planned for years.



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I think they are in a plan C so to speak .. the first two didn’t work … I am sure they prepared plenty of more ahead .. things are getting more apparent who they exactly are though … I don’t think that was meant to happen .. they figured we would be done at this point
 
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Don't get me started, lol. :tightlyclosedeyes:

I've been vocal on a number of issues, but you are correct regarding his policies concerning the environment. I suppose if I were living in a New York penthouse, flying my own personal jet everywhere to make more money, I might have a different opinion. Personally, I prefer the songs of birds and whales to political lullabies and the relaxing sounds of fracking and drilling. :headphone:

the people of the world are responsible for the current environmental issues … all of us in one form or another … there is no quick fix and highly doubt the world leaders are going to go broke and starve by giving up industrial complexes and stop bottling water with plastic .. because it must bring them the most profit … they only care about profit margins .. not the environment
 
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I've been vocal on a number of issues, but you are correct regarding his policies concerning the environment.
I pointed out what I thought you referred to, not that I agreed with you on the subject, or that there's anything wrong with his policies, we've already agreed that CO2 is good for plants a few pages ago. There are other shortcomings of his that I didn't like, such as not going harder on the traitors, but on environment...

Under Trump, Americans Breathed The Cleanest Air In U.S. History, And Other Environmental Wins The Biden Administration Deleted
  • President Trump Signed Historic Conservation Legislation
  • Improved Forest Management
  • Protected Endangered Species
  • Modified National Monuments to Expand Public Use
  • Strengthened Trade Agreements and International Conservation Initiatives
  • Improved Air Quality
  • Improved Water Quality and Reliability
  • Modernized Environmental Reviews and Permitting
  • Advanced Federal Ocean Policy
(in the article under each heading there's a list of the Acts signed, such as R. 1957, the “Great American Outdoors Act,” the largest public lands investment in American history.)
These are only some of the accomplishments listed in the report the Biden administration has removed from the White House website. Click here to view or download the full report in its entirety.
 
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the people of the world are responsible for the current environmental issues … all of us in one form or another … there is no quick fix and highly doubt the world leaders are going to go broke and starve by giving up industrial complexes and stop bottling water with plastic .. because it must bring them the most profit … they only care about profit margins .. not the environment

When the people lead, the leaders will follow. In a democracy, if it means wining votes, the leaders will make it a priority. Again, most policies are short-sighted and corporate greed often trumps common sense.
 
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I pointed out what I thought you referred to, not that I agreed with you on the subject, or that there's anything wrong with his policies, we've already agreed that CO2 is good for plants a few pages ago. There are other shortcomings of his that I didn't like, such as not going harder on the traitors, but on environment...

Under Trump, Americans Breathed The Cleanest Air In U.S. History, And Other Environmental Wins The Biden Administration Deleted

Nothing against CO2, but too much CO2 in the atmosphere contributes to Global Warming. Air quality was likely due to industry shutdowns during Covid. The ACE rule implemented in 2019 actually weakened air quality protections under the Clean Air Act, etc.

Without belabouring the point further, regarding the environmental rollbacks, see:

The Trump Environmental Record
Real-life Impacts on Public Health and the Environment (October 2020)

https://www.environmentalprotectionnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Trump-Environmental-Record-October-2020-2.pdf
 
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There is a silent war going on as we speak. This will be a tough fight against something that has been planned for years.

"The arrow that strikes the eagle is made from its own feather".

Left up to the tribes to fight amongst themselves, they'll finish the job at home. War and Imperialism. Don't you think there are any home-grown Globalists? :xf.wink:
 
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Without belabouring the point further, regarding the environmental rollbacks, see:

The Trump Environmental Record
Real-life Impacts on Public Health and the Environment (October 2020)


https://www.environmentalprotectionnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Trump-Environmental-Record-October-2020-2.pdf
All I see in their paper is them whining that EPA weakened some previous measures that were in place from the Obama era, but this is all normal, since regulations put in place before were not practical for businesses, many to the point of being unbearable, putting them at the risk of needing to stop operating and throwing people out of work. No one is saying let's breathe smog and swim in chemicals, but you'd have to keep the improvements you try to make through regulations at a rate of change that existing businesses can sustain.

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Environment Improved Under Trump Administration: Former EPA Head
“A lot of people wrote us off, saying that we didn’t believe in the environment. But we actually collected twice as much in criminal and civil penalties as the Obama administration did during their first four years—twice as much. So we were certainly out there enforcing the laws, making sure that all the environmental indicators improved. And at the same time, we put forward cost-effective regulations that wouldn’t cost American jobs. So we had an incredible track record. I’m very proud of it.”
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Trump critics argued that his rollback of regulations would lead to damage to the environment. The Rhodium Group, a research provider, said last year that Trump’s major rollbacks, such as cutting controls on hydrofluorocarbons, a type of greenhouse gas, had the potential to add 1.8 gigatons of CO2-equivalent to the atmosphere by 2035.
Wheeler said regulations and rollbacks the Trump administration put forth were commonsense proposals like a replacement for the Obama administration’s Clean Power Plan, which was struck down by the Supreme Court.
“We put forth four commonsense regulations to address climate change and reduce [...] greenhouse gases,” he said.
On rejoining the Paris agreement:
“At best, it’s unnecessary, and at worst, it could hurt American jobs and innovation and American taxpayers. Most of the other first-world countries were not following the Paris climate accord targets that they set for themselves. Both Germany and France have fallen behind their targets. We were reducing our CO2 levels, and more so than just about any of our trading partners,” he said.
 
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When the people lead, the leaders will follow. In a democracy, if it means wining votes, the leaders will make it a priority. Again, most policies are short-sighted and corporate greed often trumps common sense.

the problem with that … you will be kicking a dead horse for a long time … unless there is money for the powers that be in helping the environment… it will never happen unfortunately
 
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the problem with that … you will be kicking a dead horse for a long time … unless there is money for the powers that be in helping the environment… it will never happen unfortunately

Yeah, unfortunately common sense isn't all that common. The powers that be will continue doing what they do, finding more loopholes or creating new ones to jump through. Their lobbyists will still pay off corrupt officials and the cycle continues... :oops:
 
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On rejoining the Paris agreement:

The hardest step in any journey is the first. Likely mostly smoke and mirrors, but at least it's a step in the right direction IMO. Do you know anybody directly economically impacted by rejoining the Paris Agreement?
 
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Tucker's days might be numbered, here he exposes Fauci and his personal role in the covid plandemic

 
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Tucker's days might be numbered, here he exposes Fauci and his personal role in the covid plandemic


If people did any due diligence they would know to … Fauci was in Wuhan China at the lab in 2017 .. the Chinese lady left North Carolina University with vials of the SAR-2 virus and took them to that very lab in Wuhan China ….. I posted that in here Waaaay back in the beginning of Covid .. and as usual was told I was a nut 😂
 
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Fauci doesn't know what embarrassment is and feeds on the spotlight:)


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The hardest step in any journey is the first. Likely mostly smoke and mirrors, but at least it's a step in the right direction IMO. Do you know anybody directly economically impacted by rejoining the Paris Agreement?
How directly is directly, and will you require a mathematical proof also?
What we're talking about is the organized racket to funnel western countries wealth to globalist friendly countries, whose regimes are involved in human right violations, using slave-class factory workers, and are being huge polluters - much bigger than the U.S.

Consequences of Paris Protocol: Devastating Economic Costs, Essentially Zero Environmental Benefits
pResident Joe Biden recently recommitted the U.S. to rejoining the Paris climate agreement, an agreement that promises devastating economic costs, with essentially zero environmental benefits. “To have any impact whatsoever on climate, the entire world would either have to quickly change the way it consumes energy or simply remain undeveloped. Policies adapted from domestic regulations emphasized in the Paris agreement will affect a variety of aspects of the American economy. Based on regulations and emissions reduction targets set by the Obama administration, Heritage economists estimate that by 2035 there will be: an annual average loss of nearly 400,000 jobs, a total income loss of more than $20,000 for a family of four, and an aggregate GDP loss of over $2.5 trillion – all for a few tenths of a degree Celsius in abated warming,” says report author Nick Loris.
 
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