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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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Histrionics. It's hard to face the truth, the media is manipulating you.

How is the media at fault? What difference does it make if he isn't in office, he wants the power and the money that flows to the party to be under his control.

This from the horses mouth:

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He suggested his supporters to cut off the Republican Party broadly and support him instead.

Trump sent letters to the Republican National Committee, National Republican Senatorial Committee, and the National Republican Congressional Committee telling them to stop using his name and image in fundraising.

He is simply attacking "Republicans In Name Only".

Essentially he's telling his supporters that instead of supporting the party, they should support him personally.
If a substantial portion of Republican Party donors takes his call seriously, the GOP could find itself having trouble raising funds on its own.

Trump isn't in office. Stop being a fool.

Now do you catch my drift? :xf.wink:
 
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Now do you catch my drift?

No.

Trump is not president. The US is literally going full totalitarian and instead of being upset about that people are going..."that Trump!" about a private citizen. Is completely irrational.
 
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To be fair, @Cannuck is a Canadian, has no bill of rights and doesn't know better.

I've educated myself on American law and the US Constitution which was in large part influenced by Native government.

The Native American Government That Inspired the US Constitution

Yes, I'm Canadian and never tried to hide the fact. US media influences the just anybody anywhere, especially in the West, particulary in North America.

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms protects a number of rights and freedoms, including freedom of expression and the right to equality. It forms part of our Constitution – the highest law in all of Canada.

It's not called a bill, it's called The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

...perhaps you could educate yourself :xf.wink:

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/
 
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No.

Trump is not president. The US is literally going full totalitarian and instead of being upset about that people are going..."that Trump!" about a private citizen. Is completely irrational.

To be frank, it is irrational, just as erratic as he was while in office IMO. He never admitted defeat even though he lost the election and not wanting to be sidelined, still demands to be in the limelight...he brings it in on himself.

Edit: I don't blame Republicans a whole, often they're generally pretty decent people. I blame the partisan politics of Right vs Left and the two-party system which doesn't leave much elbow room for those in the centre. I never considered 45 to be either Rep or Dem, he turned coat and made it his party and played to the crowd, radicalizing the party on his side and just ran with it. :xf.rolleyes:
 
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I've educated myself on American law and the US Constitution which was in large part influenced by Native government.

The Native American Government That Inspired the US Constitution

Yes, I'm Canadian and never tried to hide the fact. US media influences the just anybody anywhere, especially in the West, particulary in North America.

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms protects a number of rights and freedoms, including freedom of expression and the right to equality. It forms part of our Constitution – the highest law in all of Canada.

It's not called a bill, it's called The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

...perhaps you could educate yourself :xf.wink:

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/

Right.. it wasn't the Greeks or Romans or the Vikings or God, it was tribal Indians. Sheesh.

ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR...
 
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This degenerate was vaccinated but still wears a mask to scare his lemmings.

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To be frank, it is irrational, just as erratic as he was while in office IMO. He never admitted defeat even though he lost the election and not wanting to be sidelined, still demands to be in the limelight...he brings it in on himself.

Reminds me of one of those scary Fiona Apple songs, where she sings bitterly about her ex-boyfriend. Nothing against Fiona Apple - I am a huge fan, but not crazy about the borderline psychotic obsessions with ex-boyfriends' faults. Imagine taking a woman to dinner and all she talks about all night was how horrible her ex was. Then you sleep together and the next morning over coffee, she is still on about him. This is the kind of affliction some have for Trump. He is completely irrelevant to the huge problems the US is facing, yet commands all of some people's attention. The only fanatical devotion to Trump I see is not from his supporters, but from his haters. Think about that for a moment.

Meanwhile you have the government and media teamed together to conspiratorially tell you up is down one day and up is up the next. Riots are good one day, riots are bad the next. Pulling out of Afghanistan is serving Russia's interests one day, but a brave and patriotic decision the next day, that Trump appointing judges as all presidents have is bad one day, but the Democrats unprecedentedly and undemocratically expanding the court to pack it without any input from the people is fine the next.

But, Trump....

The country has literally gone insane.
 
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Right.. it wasn't the Greeks or Romans or the Vikings or God, it was tribal Indians. Sheesh.

ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR...

First Nations indeed. Those who followed were immigrants. All nations have their creation stories, where myth and history merge, but the real-life bias and violence against Native Americans has very likely obscured the similarities between the Iroquois Confederacy and the US Constitution. Thomas Jefferson politicized Native Americans calling them merciless savages, when in fact, all they wanted was their own freedom and independence. Even when, eventually, most sided with the British, they were not fighting against freedom; like the American patriots, they fought to defend their freedom as they understood it. In Indian eyes, aggressive Americans posed a greater threat than did a distant king to their land, their liberty, and their way of life. The American War of Independence was an Indian war for independence as well.
 
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But, Trump....The country has literally gone insane.

It's much easier to villainize others than to look within. Politics aside, the issues that affect us all are just as concerning to this Cannuck as any observer living outside the box that confines and divides. US politics just happens to affect everyone, especially on this side of the pond, though not as important as a global pandemic or Climate Change.
 
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@LoodeX...rather than hiding in the shadows and disliking, why not come out and play with the Big boys. :xf.wink:
 
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The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
What the bold text grants the small text takes away, we covered this topic well enough here but some never seem to understand and always come back for more.

I think what the Founding Fathers tried to convey to the citizenry is to expect the domestic enemies working within and set out to limit the risk, especially private banking and federal government overreach. Unfortunately the boiling frog analogy has been in the works for long time and the populace has been systematically divided by leaders with no loyalty to the country but to the globalist technocrats.
 
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I think what the Founding Fathers tried to convey to the citizenry is to expect the domestic enemies working within and set out to limit the risk, especially private banking and federal government overreach. Unfortunately the boiling frog analogy has been in the works for long time and the populace has been systematically divided by leaders with no loyalty to the country but to the globalist technocrats.

Where does the US Constitution implicitly say that people's, "Freedom of Speech" is guaranteed?

The First Amendment reads:


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The First Amendment does not give people rights to free speech, the free-speech guarantee operates only as a barrier to censorship by government officials, not on the right of private entities to refrain from publishing material they don’t like. Democracy is no guarantee of freedom.

The purpose of the Bill of Rights was to ensure that the government didn’t usurp the power of "WE" - the power to protect, to infringe upon, or even destroy people's rights.
 
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@LoodeX...rather than hiding in the shadows and disliking, why not come out and play with the Big boys. :xf.wink:
I gave you a big invite in chat to discuss politics
 
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Indians also fought other Indians for territory.

Don't be so self righteous

First Nations indeed. Those who followed were immigrants. All nations have their creation stories, where myth and history merge, but the real-life bias and violence against Native Americans has very likely obscured the similarities between the Iroquois Confederacy and the US Constitution. Thomas Jefferson politicized Native Americans calling them merciless savages, when in fact, all they wanted was their own freedom and independence. Even when, eventually, most sided with the British, they were not fighting against freedom; like the American patriots, they fought to defend their freedom as they understood it. In Indian eyes, aggressive Americans posed a greater threat than did a distant king to their land, their liberty, and their way of life. The American War of Independence was an Indian war for independence as well.
 
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Where does the US Constitution implicitly say that people's, "Freedom of Speech" is guaranteed?....

Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech


Dumb.


The First Amendment does
not give people rights to free speech, the free-speech guarantee operates only as a barrier to censorship by government officials, not on the right of private entities to refrain from publishing material they don’t like. Democracy is no guarantee of freedom.


Our rights, including free speech are granted to us by our creator. The constitution limits the powers of Government.

Internet lawyers...


The purpose of the Bill of Rights was to ensure that the government didn’t usurp the power of "WE" - the power to protect, to infringe upon, or even destroy people's rights.
 
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Indians also fought other Indians for territory.

Don't be so self righteous

True that! (y) I was just pointing out how the framers adopted the original people's constitution.

"We the People" is not about the self...contemplate that for awhile :xf.wink:
 
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The First Amendment does not give people rights to free speech, the free-speech guarantee operates only as a barrier to censorship by government officials, not on the right of private entities to refrain from publishing material they don’t like.

Two points here. One is that congress is certainly coercing media to censor speech under threat of potential new laws. That falls under this amendment.

The other point is that, even when these so-called private entities choose to "refrain from publishing material" for themselves, they are a threat to democracy by nature of their monopolistic control over communications and their conspiratorial relationship with certain political parties. Would you be happy if you were denied the use of the telephone or Wifi because of your opinions?

People who disingenuously argue that Twitter, et al are not violating free speech but simply acting as private companies are purposely missing the bigger picture.

Whether Twitter, Facebook and Google violate the right to free speech as written in the constitution is not really the issue. The issue is they are squelching free speech in a manner that threatens the existence of democracy. It is indefensible.
 
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Two points here. One is that congress is certainly coercing media to censor speech under threat of potential new laws. That falls under this amendment.

The other point is that, even when these so-called private entities choose to "refrain from publishing material" for themselves, they are a threat to democracy by nature of their monopolistic control over communications and their conspiratorial relationship with certain political parties. Would you be happy if you were denied the use of the telephone or Wifi because of your opinions?

People who disingenuously argue that Twitter, et al are not violating free speech but simply acting as private companies are purposely missing the bigger picture.

Whether Twitter, Facebook and Google violate the right to free speech as written in the constitution is not really the issue. The issue is they are squelching free speech in a manner that threatens the existence of democracy. It is indefensible.

True, a controversial issue not to be taken lightly. For these reasons, I have always had serious qualms about the power and control of social media over the populus, I am not a fanboy. Their algorithms are programmed to fuel controversy for engagement and AI is now self-taught, adding fuel to the fire through its own robots. Make no mistake about it, people are mind-controlled. It's too easy to be fooled. I see their only defense as being: Stop the one who shouts, "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. There are limits. Indeed it is a fine line that has already been crossed...Welcome to the Machine :droid:
 
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Stop the one who shouts, "Fire!" in a crowded theatre.

I think the danger now is the one who says "stay in your seats - everything is fine" while the theatre is on fire.
 
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I think the danger now is the one who says "stay in your seats - everything is fine" while the theatre is on fire.

Yup. Either remove themselves and/or don't buy a ticket to the show. As George Carlin said, "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it". :xf.wink:

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I might be wrong but I felt I was already reading posts from these creations:)
What can possibly go wrong with this...
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