new gtlds shop.app ranking above shop.com according to Alexa

LOL. The ngtld coming out in full force tonight.

What is .app renewal?

Arent they owned by google

Samer said:

LOL. The ngtld coming out in full force tonight.

What is .app renewal?

Arent they owned by google

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Yessiree !

Current .app renewal prices range from $12 to $35 annually, and yes Google owns the extension

.app aside though ^ this is irrefutable evidence that GTLDs in premium keyword combinations cannot only compete with the single keyword .com - but in this case, rank above it

I also noticed the GTLD https://casino.online is ranking well above https://casinoonline.com as well by a massive degree 200% more

i'ts because the domain was featured and published on top site on the world like shopify and techcrunch, business insider, wsj and more:

here is how powerful the backlinks that domain have now:

Samer said:

LOL. The ngtld coming out in full force tonight.

What is .app renewal?

Arent they owned by google

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I think the renewal for a standard .app is $12-$13. But shop.app is definitely premium pricing and renewals

Alessandro Couteau said:

Yessiree !

Current .app renewal prices range from $12 to $35 annually, and yes Google owns the extension

.app aside though ^ this is irrefutable evidence that GTLDs in premium keyword combinations cannot only compete with the single keyword .com - but in this case, rank above it

I also noticed the GTLD https://casino.online is ranking well above https://casinoonline.com as well by a massive degree 200% more

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Ranking on SERP and on other metrics has never been about domains or TLDs. Content is king

coolhands said:

i'ts because the domain was featured and published on top site on the world like shopify and techcrunch, business insider, wsj and more:

here is how powerful the backlinks that domain

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FolioTeam said:

Ranking on SERP and on other metrics has never been about domains or TLDs. Content is king

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Haha, I agree with you ^ but TLD .com investors will tell you it’s all because of the .com that sites rank high ^ when we both know search engine algorithms do not rank based on extensions

Well we now have irrefutable evidence that the GTLD can not only compete with the TLD but they can rank higher

coolhands said:

i'ts because the domain was featured and published on top site on the world like shopify and techcrunch, business insider, wsj and more:

here is how powerful the backlinks that domain have now:

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Makes sense considering Shopify owns the name

Check the ranking and back links on

https://casino.online versus https://casinoonline.com

or

https://home.loans versus
https://homeloans.com owned by Wells Fargo

I haven't heard anyone in the last 5 years claim that the extension effects its ranking power. There are a whole host of metrics that's dictate a domains ranking which can be applied to any extension.

Personally I don't understand why you find this noteworthy.

The big question is...

If you could choose to own shop.com or shop.app (just the domain with no backlinks or other metrics) which would you choose?

If you answer is .app you're probably in the wrong game.

D Haynes said:

I haven't heard anyone in the last 5 years claim that the extension effects its ranking power. There are a whole host of metrics that's dictate a domains ranking which can be applied to any extension.

Personally I don't understand why you find this noteworthy.

The big question is...

If you could choose to own shop.com or shop.app (just the domain with no backlinks or other metrics) which would you choose?

If you answer is .app you're probably in the wrong game.

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don't compare shop.com Vs shop.app
you should compare instead shopapp.com Vs shop.app

this is the era of digital assets, and you can see now even emoji domains are selling for +$400K, gtlds have a bright future on the domain industry.

coolhands said:

don't compare shop.com Vs shop.app
you should compare instead shopapp.com Vs shop.app

this is the era of digital assets, and you can see now even emoji domains are selling for +$400K, gtlds have a bright future on the domain industry.

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I'm not the one making the comparison, that was the OP.

D Haynes said:

I haven't heard anyone in the last 5 years claim that the extension effects its ranking power. There are a whole host of metrics that's dictate a domains ranking which can be applied to any extension.

Personally I don't understand why you find this noteworthy.

The big question is...

If you could choose to own shop.com or shop.app (just the domain with no backlinks or other metrics) which would you choose?

If you answer is .app you're probably in the wrong game.

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15 years ago when we had .com millionaires popping up left and right, business’ were buying domains for two reasons, one exact match keywords were a large factor in ranking online, and two, domains were and still are investments ^

The past 5 years GTLDs have started to grow in value exponentially ^ what people laughed about 5 years ago is now showing a new foresight into the market ... yes I am aware comparing shop.app to shop.com is funny to you and many others, but my point was simply this > as the market continues to age, good domains like shop.com are becoming scarce, “not for sale” - and it is nice to see that with the proper SEO and exact match keyword in a different extension we can see that GTLDs work in line with what was the case for TLDs 15 years ago

I don’t know Google or Bing’s algorithm and I don’t imagine anyone here does, but what I do know is that the “requests” thread here is filled 95% of the time with (.com only) as if new extensions are a black sheep to the domain world, well I am tired of Verisign and ICANN and their muppets running their monopoly on the world wide web ! It’s about time that new investors and old investors knew the value and potential of GTLDs and given what I know and have seen, I imagine this will be the case in short order > so long as we don’t have legends buying bad GTLD combinations like https://flowers.mobi

And yes you’re right, .com is the go to extension because 90% of the world is unaware of GTLDs ... 10 years ago BTC was in the same realm trading at $.08 / coin ^ 1 year ago NFT’s were the same story, unheard of until Mark Cuban and a few billionaires started trading in digital art ^ digital assets are valuable prospects, and that category includes “good domains”

we are a community here, we should be working together to promote “good domains” so long as they are “good domains” single exact match keywords in valuable industries

And one more thing Haynes, if I had known shop.app and what would come of shop.app 2 years ago, I would have bought the name and traded it to Shopify for stock and made millions on my investment ^ not even Berkshire Hathaway can guarantee that ROI

And the thing is we don’t know when that next domino is gonna fall, just as we didn’t know Vignesh would spend $69M on an NFT painting

Looking forward to what happens in the next few years in the digital world

why do you think google s alphabet is called alphabet?

because organic seo is alphabeticical

(both sides of the dot

.com investors were saying that google should make an offer to buy alphabet .com from bm w etc

google choss the alphabetical option

abc. xyz

which is alphabetically nearer to tge start of the alphabet than alphabet. com etc

the same reason why amazon had to buy

a. co

before alphabet and apple etc

amazons

a. co

amazon understands that

short is better

(both sides of the dot)

a. co is better than a. com

which new gtld investors understood in 2013 which many .com only investors have still yet to realise in 2121 etc which puts a smile on my face lol having been told during the last 8 years or so by domain name brokers that my portfolio has no value etc and now the .com is everything brokees hovering around the top 1% of domains will have portfolios that are difficult to sell as potential buyers will use alexa rankings and the shop .app scenario to disprove that .com is everything which it is not

interesting times lol

platey said:

amazon understands that

short is better

(both sides of the dot)

a. co is better than a. com

which new gtld investors understood in 2013 which many .com only investors have still yet to realise in 2121 etc which puts a smile on my face lol

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a.co is not better than a.com. a.com doesn't event exist so saying that Amazon bought a.co because it is shorter/better makes no sense

and .co isn't even a NGTLD so I'm not sure where to even begin with this comment.

Good insight! Thank you for posting. I may analyze sample comparisons on my blog this month since another user mentioned casino.online vs casinoonline.com.

Alessandro Couteau said:

The past 5 years GTLDs have started to grow in value exponentially

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source: namebio

ecalc said:

Time Period	NGTLD Aftermarket USD
Last 5 years	20.8m
Last 3 years	10.2m
Last 2 years	6.1m
Last 1 year	2.3m

source: namebio

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You’re right ! I should be more clear ^ growing privately : NameBio Sedo ICANN Verisign, are like banks of the domain world ... why would they give any good news about GTLDs, when it directly undermines their strongest investment

A few years ago JP Morgan Chase told consumers not to buy crypto, do not invest ... just last month JP Morgan Chase says they expect BTC to hit $130K a coin ...

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, can’t get fooled again

griff said:

a.co is not better than a.com. a.com doesn't event exist so saying that Amazon bought a.co because it is shorter/better makes no sense

and .co isn't even a NGTLD so I'm not sure where to even begin with this comment.

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A.com does exist, however it is not for sale and everyday the market sees 100K registrations ... good .com domains are becoming scarce, opening up the opportunity for exact match keyword GTLD combinations to come into play as yet another untapped market

They are both very solid names that describe exactly what they do.

It's all about content and backlinks.

Aside from that, the extension should not matter for search ranking unless you are searching from within a country where the ccTLD ranks higher because it is a local extension.

For example, if I do a Google search for the word 'shop' from Sydney Australia, the top three sites returned in order are:

shop.app
au.shop.com
dubbo.com.au (who shops in Dubbo?)

The logic of most people in this forum is that:

Why does a website using new gTLD succeed?
Because it has great content and many backlinks.

Why does a website using new gTLD fail?
Because it uses new gTLD.

Why does a website using .com succeed?
Because it uses .com.

Why does a website using .com fail?
Because it has poor content and few backlinks.


This kind of logic is called bias.

griff said:

a.co is not better than a.com. a.com doesn't event exist so saying that Amazon bought a.co because it is shorter/better makes no sense

and .co isn't even a NGTLD so I'm not sure where to even begin with this comment.

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. co is a cctld i know

but amazon wont need . com when its issued etc

i thought there were only the original 3 × 1 letter . coms that nissan originally owned plus o . com?

but there are a few variations of

a . com using the emoji website address format meaning althought they look like a . com the website address usually starts with

xn--

eg the code that emoji and idn domains start with

Seven years ago a herd of NTLD bulls crashed the gates of NP, pumped, dumped and faded away. Now we hear about an underground market thriving in the face of a cabal. Thank you, this sounds like a case for the Whistleblower.

ecalc said:

Seven years ago a herd of NTLD bulls crashed the gates of NP, pumped, dumped and faded away. Now we hear about an underground market thriving in the face of a cabal. Thank you, this sounds like a case for the Whistleblower.

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Crazier things have happened

10 years ago BTC was trading at ¢8 a coin, look at where things are now

Do you think it is a coincidence that GoDaddy wants to buy MMX for $120M, which owns the rights to 28 different GTLD extensions ... ICANN will have to approve it though

How about your take on the giants who actually own a piece of land in the WWW - let’s talk about the ones who can afford to buy new extensions like .games (starting bid $3M) at Frank Schillings / Uniregistry GTLD auction for 23 different extensions on the 28th of April - some will rise, some will fall

Things are changing fast ^ time to catch up before these “cough” hedgefunds “cough” SEDO, ICANN, Veresign, NameBio, GoDaddy tell you otherwise

Warren Buffet still argues he is not vested in BTC even though him and Bill Gates have a pending patent for what potentially could be ground breaking for BTC or crypto for that matter ... meanwhile JP Morgan Chase and every large banking institution told investors not to buy into BTC just 3 years ago / now they are doing what ? Say it ain’t so

Alessandro Couteau said:

meanwhile JP Morgan Chase and every large banking institution told investors not to buy into BTC just 3 years ago / now they are doing what ? Say it ain’t so

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Most of times don't do acts as do it, like the forbidden apple.

I'm no hater of new extensions. but I think basing the argument on ranking is plain wrong. ranking higher in SERP is based on content and backlinks not extensions.

Also, I don't think anyone has ever made the argument of "non .com domains can never rank above .coms" because that would be a stupid thing to say.

most dotcom investors (myself included) favor dotcoms over other extensions not because of ranking capabilities but because of familiarity of extension to general public. the authority it has in the mind of consumers is what gives it value not how well it ranks in search engines (which has nothing to do with extension at all)

there are a lot of research that show if given the same choice between exmaple.com and example.net , .org, .app, .whatever on a search result page, most people will click on .com result. that is why .com is more valuable. the click. not the extension.

what the OP is doing is a prime example of confirmation bias.
he is using one example of a .shop domain selling for 6 digits and ignoring thousands of other .app domains that stay unsold for years after years, and still arguing the high price sale one one domain is proof of the value of the extension.

I would agree that a good name (short, one word domain name) is valuable regardless of extension. but those names selling for a good price, has zero effect on value of the respective extensions from an investment point of view.