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Domainer Sid

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Hello Fellows,

Hope you had a fantastic weekend.

There is a free appraisal section on this forum and I observe a serious lack of participation.

Most of the threads have tons of views and 0 replies and remaining have just 1 or 2 replies.

We totally understand appraising a domain is not as easy as it looks and some domains are not worth of our time.

But I think for new joiners like me and several others, the Appraisals section will be very important to understand how the seniors and experienced people value the domains.

A humble request to everyone to actively participate in Appraising domains as much as possible to make this community a valuable asset for everyone.

Thanks,
~Sid
 
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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Are we talking about NP or your site ;)
Both :) I hardly ever try and place a value on a domain; at best I offer a range, or an indicator of whether I like it or not. I just don't think anyone can offer more without putting the time in to research.
 
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1. Good for SEO - Keywords
Keywords in domains haven't impacted SEO for years already.

2. X number of search results in Google.
You can get this from estibot.com. No need to ask for it here.

3. Brand Potential. (Difficult to measure)
This is literally the only thing I think domainers can offer here or elsewhere. This is a subjective review at best.

4. Similar name sales reference.
Again something that can be attained from elsewhere. Go to namebio.com and do the research. There's no need to ask for it here when it's so easily and readily available.

And appraisers can give rating to each point from 1 to 10. May not be monitory appraisal but surely a Quality wise appraisal.
This is fine, if we all agree on what 1 means and what 10 means. On my website I added a text description to each (1-5 stars) so it was clear.
 
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Hi

i think the quote below, explains the "Why"

Lack of participation usually means that your domain is not so good to receive a serious appraisal (reg fee). Not every time, but usually. I mean, there is a lot of people asking appraisal for bad names and members give their appraisal for the best names or the name which attrach some interest (for good or bad reason). Don't take it personally.
At the end of the day, no appraisal is a form of appraisal too.

and i think the quote below, expresses the "intention" of a leaning environment

as you want them (newbies) to read first, but they are already too frantic from the hype they heard, watched or misread, to be patient.... even before they get here.

The idea is for newbies to spend a couple of months reading the forum, DNJournal, podcasts etc. before throwing their money in, instead of handregging hundreds of names & then getting defensive when people tell them they aren't good. A good 98% of names posted there fit into this category, and no one wants to receive a negative response for trying to help, hence the lack of responses.

still, it depends on the name posted and many times, may depend on "which member" replies to that appraisal thread.... and what "they" say, which in turn, may initiate an opposing or enlightened perspective from another member.

a perfect example is quoted below
2) The thread is trolled by wannabe "experts" with no experience that answer to all most all posts with a guesstimate they have prepared in their hat.

such examples as above, may provide discussion.... not because of the domain that's being appraised, but because the wanna bee gave opinion that was absurd or factually not true.

so others joined in to check his ass

imo...
 
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If your domain doesn't get an appraisal it likely is not very good.

I respond to appraisals from time to time, but when you try to help you often get push back and know-it-all bad attitudes in response.

Most experienced investors are not going to waste their time.

Unless a domain falls into a liquid pattern, value is too subjective. I think it would be better if people just posted why a domain is good or bad.

It would be nice if NamePros could find a way to incentivize quality appraisals.

Brad
 
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If your domain doesn't get an appraisal it likely is not very good.

I respond to appraisals from time to time, but when you try to help you often get push back and know-it-all bad attitudes in response.

Most experienced investors are not going to waste their time.

Unless a domain falls into a liquid pattern, value is too subjective. I think it would be better if people just posted why a domain is good or bad.

It would be nice if NamePros could find a way to incentivize quality appraisals.

Brad
The appraisal section has been discussed a few times, suggestions made and opinions provided to Namepros on this and nothing has changed......

Personally don't think it will change in the near future, I have a hunch the appraisal section does a fine job in luring in potential new members for Namepros through it's domain authority, backlink profile, page ranking etc etc which in turn bring in new membership fees so they have little incentive to change it.....
 
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I have a hunch the appraisal section does a fine job in luring in potential new members for Namepros through it's domain authority, backlink profile, page ranking etc etc which in turn bring in new membership fees so they have little incentive to change it.....

Hi

a left jab, then a right upper-cut to the jaw... and down goes Frazier!
your hunch, is same hunch i had, but i wanted somebody else to see it, and say it. :)

but i ain't mad if that's a fact, cuz potentially, it's more bizness for the platform -
depending on what, "they" bring to the table.

imo...
 
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A humble request to everyone to actively participate in Appraising domains as much as possible to make this community a valuable asset for everyone.
It is a good point and thanks for starting the thread. I think currently as you note many names go without responses, and others get responses, sometimes, of questionable helpfulness.

I am hoping that when I do Part 2 of my series on appraisals, which will look at NamePros appraisals and how to make the most of them, it will encourage more to participate and increase worth of appraisals.


Bob
 
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It is a good point and thanks for starting the thread. I think currently as you note many names go without responses, and others get responses, sometimes, of questionable helpfulness.

I am hoping that when I do Part 2 of my series on appraisals, which will look at NamePros appraisals and how to make the most of them, it will encourage more to participate and increase worth of appraisals.

Bob
@Bob Hawkes My pleasure, Sir.
 
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Experienced domainers here are totally discouraged to post in that section.

There are 2 valid reasons for this:

1) Most domains are weak or totally rubbish, and the newbies don't appreciate negative feedback although totally constructive. They feel offended so you don't get at least a "thanks" for making that effort;

2) The thread is trolled by wannabe "experts" with no experience that answer to allmost all posts with a guesstimate they have prepared in their hat.

The appraisal section has actually brought itself in this situation simply by the activity of those lurking there, unfortunately.

Sir;

you are right, IMO many new comers may not be ready for criticism. But few maybe...and they should not be penalised.

If they are not ready or willing to not accept the fact, actually it's their big mistake or fault and loss too.

As said all fingers are not equal!
 
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Sir;

you are right, IMO many new comers may not be ready for criticism. But few maybe...and they should not be penalised.

If they are not ready or willing to not accept the fact, actually it's their big mistake or fault and loss too.

As said all fingers are not equal!

Correction: Willing to accept...
 
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@Domainer Sid, the simplest way to appraisal : register a domain and start $10 Auction thread if you got bids your domain is good.

e. g.
DigitCamera.com - spent $8.49, created $10 auction thread on NamePros , waiting bids, if no bids the domain is reg-fee

DigitalCamera.com worth xx,xxx DigitCamera.com probably reg-fee or not who knows.
#digital
 
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Wouldn’t you have to sell it to the winner?
why not i am ok with that. If the domain is really good i wouldn't run $10 Auction.
 
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why not i am ok with that. If the domain is really good i wouldn't run $10 Auction.
That might work if you only sell wholesale, but not if you intend to sell retail.
 
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There's RARELY content worthy of a qualified member's time...bottom line.
 
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The ultimate Appraisal is: the price is what the buyer is willing to pay. This also applies to a crappy domain .com
 
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I asked the mods about it recently, and their response was:

“You'd be hard-pressed to find more professionals, especially of domain names, anywhere else compared to NamePros.”

So that means if you’re here, you’re already a pro.
Not quite; it just means there are a lot of them on NamePros.

It would be nice if NamePros could find a way to incentivize quality appraisals.
Agreed.

We've discussed some creative and exciting ideas for this internally, but they're unfortunately not quick projects. They're on the roadmap, though.

am hoping that when I do Part 2 of my series on appraisals, which will look at NamePros appraisals and how to make the most of them, it will encourage more to participate and increase worth of appraisals.
Excited to read this! Perhaps we can add a notice in the appraisal section about it once published. :)

Thanks.
 
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Looks like we have 3 type of people here:

1. The Real NamePros - Who have been doing this for years and can rate a domain as soon as they see it.

2. The Prepared Newbies - Before starting they read forums/researches/evaluate the value provided by the name, before buying a domain to make a profit.

3. The Upstarters - Who just looks at the glamourous side of domaining, go with the suggestions provided by registrars, buys name without knowing what value that name will provide to end users, gets influenced by tools like GD Appraisals, Estibot etc. and eventually books some useless domains.

I think we have very less people falling in category #2 and have just too many in #3.
Graduating people from #3 to #2 will help them understand the real essence of the industry and this forum.
 
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It’s due to me falling off and not being able to place random numbers .. the numbers certainly were geographic
 
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Adding some more great feedback to this thread:
A better system that might encourage more participants because you don’t have to type explanations would be anonymous votes on a name. Not sure that can be done here.
Is there a reason why one can't simply use the poll, with a number of price options, to do that in the appraisal thread here?
The problems with appraisal:
- Newbies appraise names for newbies or oldies
- Appraisal means nothing - the price of a name is established when there is an agreement between the seller and buyer
- You can sell the same name to a small company or individual for $500 or sell to a big company for $500,000
- No one know the value of a name (with the exception of Estibot and Godaddy when you want to make yourself happy)
- Giving the wrong appraisal value may give the owner the wrong impression about the value of a name.

It's easier for us to keep track of it and come up with solutions when it's all in one place. :)
 
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@Bravo Mod Team please stop users from bumping appraisal threads from 3 years ago
 
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Bumping their own appraisal threads from 3 years ago, or providing an appraisal for someone who asked 3 years ago?
providing appraisal on a 3 year old thread with an inactive user perhaps threads with no replies for more than 6months in that section get automatically closed ?
 
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