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Anyone reading this attend NamesCon.online? First let me say I just love the domain industry that I knew absolutely nothing about until about three years ago. Prior to 2017 all I knew about were the very traditional .com, .net, .org, ,gov and .edu extensions (the letters just right of the .Dot). While it's pretty obvious that names like .edu (education), .net (internet), .org (organization), .gov (government) how many consumers or businesses actually know what .com (???) stands for or means?

To draw a comparison (very important), i was the guest speaker at my zoom "K" (Kiwanis) meeting yesterday, and even though we were discussing two very sensitive topics, "suicide and racism" I directed us to, "how many people know what the bold "K" we proudly where on our hats, polo shirts and tee shirts stands for? Ironically, and much to the dismay of my Kiwanis brothers and sisters, very few people in the world have ever heard of Kiwanis despite having over 600,000 members in 80 different countries worldwide. As an aside, but just as important our motto is, "Serving the Children of the World"

Again this was meant to draw a comparison to how little the rest of the world (outside the domain industry) knows or even cares what's right of the .dot:xf.rolleyes:

I know it's incensed many of the members here, but this is a subject that should and needs to be discussed. Why? Because we're literally running out of .com's, and those that are still available are so "overpriced" very few consumers or businesses can afford them. Why is that? It basically involves the old economic theory of "Supply and Demand". However, unlike typical "supply and demand" theory, there are many alternatives to .com, one of them being .online like you saw NamesCon.online using to promote their annual convention which is virtual aka online:xf.smile:

Despite being actively involved in the domain industry for the last three years, I never realized until recently that anything to the .right of the dot is moot. While I own over 900 .online domains that I've accumulated in the last 30 days, many of my .online domains make more sense than their "exact match" .left of the .dot. Here are a few of mine.....LetsDiscuss.online;

Whistleblower.online
QualityDomains.online
Reservations.online (serious dispute with Go Daddy and Radix over this one)
GunSafety.online
CaliforniaHomes.online

btw, you can "Discover" anything .online from Africa to Space. Anyone know where Com is:xf.eek:
 
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Lol, private sales are the keyword. Put in the research and effort and you can buy liquid names below market value any day. Where do you think people selling their liquids are sourcing their names from?

A 1K investment isn't the worst imaginable kind of situation to be in if you're willing put in the work.
Speaking of putting in the work....i bet I've spent well over 100 hours accumulating .online domains. But its fun when I find names like these;

FastBall.online This could be for "Fastball Sports" and many other business names

TripleDouble.online

HailMary.online

SqueezePlay.online

Take a wild guess who will be buying names like this? I think "Persuasive Marketing" might be able to sell a few names. What do you think?

This is "Fastball Sports"....can I help you? Yeah, just sign that 10M contract and you can email it back to me rich@Fastball.online:xf.cool:
 
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Lets say you've got 1K to spend. If you buy wisely, you can get 10 random LLLL.coms. that will give you a chance at upselling. Worst case you'll liquidate at let's say $80 a piece within the year. That's a $200 loss but chances are you'll fetch some more for some so at least you'll break even.

Imagine you'll invest that same money in handreg .onlines. you would need to be real lucky to break even within the year, let alone be profitable.
Lets say you only had a buck to invest on domains, and you only bought the domain;

Bigotry.Online, like I just did. Does anyone reading this believe there are probably millions of bigots who post on line everyday? Can anyone imagine someone who might want to write a book titled "Bigotry Online"?

I tried to buy Hypocrisy.Online but sadly it was taken. How would you spend your buck?
 
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I have about 20 .online domains that are an exact match for operating banks in the US. For example I own DiscoverBank.Online and the largest bank in my area TowneBank.online.
Rich, this is the textbook definition of cybersquatting.
 
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However, if you go to AffordableDomains.com, you'll find that GD has it listed for sale, and they give you a number to call; 1 855-646-1390. So I called it and spoke with someone with a foreign accent to me anyway. I identified myself and asked how much they were asking for the domain.....answer $4,378. Actually that was pretty low considering I have gotten quotes in similar situations of over $100,000:xf.frown:

Regardless, GD is charging 43 times more for the .com version of the name "Affordable Domains" than what they value the .online version for. And of course there's 43x more profit in selling the consumer the .com vs. the online.

I don't want to pile on, but I just want to point something out here...you do know that it's probably not actually GoDaddy selling the name right?

Sure, GD has their own portfolio at NameFind, but anyone can register a name, list it at afternic for a million dollars and point their nameservers to generate an afternic lander with a GoDaddy logo and phone number
 
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I don't want to pile on, but I just want to point something out here...you do know that it's probably not actually GoDaddy selling the name right?

Sure, GD has their own portfolio at NameFind, but anyone can register a name, list it at afternic for a million dollars and point their nameservers to generate an afternic lander with a GoDaddy logo and phone number

It's 100% certain not owned by GD :)
 
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I don't want to pile on, but I just want to point something out here...you do know that it's probably not actually GoDaddy selling the name right?

Sure, GD has their own portfolio at NameFind, but anyone can register a name, list it at afternic for a million dollars and point their nameservers to generate an afternic lander with a GoDaddy logo and phone number
You guys really do need to educate yourselves on how many domains GD actually own themselves and how many domains they sell for others. The further I get into the weeds, I see why their financial reporting is vague at best when it comes to Afternic and the secondary side of their business.

I found it very suspicious when trying to resolve an issue involving both the Go Daddy side and the Afternic side and they wouldn't talk with each other to resolve an issue involving a domain that sold for $1,800. Then when I asked the rep at Afternic for his last name, he wouldn't give it to me and said "Kyle" will have to do.

This is no way to do business or treat your customers, and they know I've had it with them. I have more examples of wrong doing and outright incompetence that will be coming out.....stay tuned,
 
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You guys really do need to educate yourselves on how many domains GD actually own themselves and how many domains they sell for others.

Sounds like you have some info, so would you mind sharing? Just look at this article from DNW...in just a few clicks, GoDaddy allowed domain owners to generate 350k listings

https://domainnamewire.com/2021/02/...g-wizard-generates-350k-aftermarket-listings/

If I had to bet $1, I'd wager GoDaddy owns a fraction of the domains that are shown as "for sale" on GoDaddy/Afternic
 
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Sounds like you have some info, so would you mind sharing? Just look at this article from DNW...in just a few clicks, GoDaddy allowed domain owners to generate 350k listings


If I had to bet $1, I'd wager GoDaddy owns a fraction of the domains that are shown as "for sale" on GoDaddy/Afternic
That's part of the story, but if you'd like the rest of the store; JustReply.Online (site not up yet, but will be:xf.wink:)

 
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Rich, this is the textbook definition of cybersquatting.

So I'll repeat to you what I just said....now listen loud and clear. Insinuating or Accusing me of cybersquatting is very serious, and I don't take it lightly. Now back off Joe Nichols. I've done absolutely nothing wrong and I abhor the insinuation.
 
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So I'll repeat to you what I just said....now listen loud and clear. Insinuating or Accusing me of cybersquatting is very serious, and I don't take it lightly. Now back off Joe Nichols. I've done absolutely nothing wrong and I abhor the insinuation.
The fact that you registered the domains because you know that existing banks operate under those very names proves your bad faith quite clearly. You have no legal claim to those names, and registering them is an attempt to benefit from their existing brand.

That's about as wrong as it gets in domain investing.

The act itself is deplorable, and the idea that there could be some great advantage to them owning their name in the .online extension is laughable.

If you were a newcomer to the industry, you'd get a pass, but you've been here for three years and in business for decades. You should know better.
 
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The fact that you registered the domains because you know that existing banks operate under those very names proves your bad faith quite clearly. You have no legal claim to those names, and registering them is an attempt to benefit from their existing brand.

That's about as wrong as it gets in domain investing.

The act itself is deplorable, and the idea that there could be some great advantage to them owning their name in the .online extension is laughable.

If you were a newcomer to the industry, you'd get a pass, but you've been here for three years and in business for decades. You should know better.
Joe....i probably should be thanking you for all the attention you and your domain friends pay me. In order to keep my response to you OT I just finished registering the following .Online domains;

CancelFreedom.Online
CancelSpeech.Online
CancelRights.Online

To be perfectly clear, this is my OPINION just like you have yours. I don't know who made you the domain police and the judge and jury overseeing the domain industry, but I'm guessing you're self appointed.

In your post and most all previous posts, I believe you have ulterior motives to cancel my speech, my rights and my freedom to do domaining my way. You and other members have commented over and over that I'm bad for "your" industry. I put "your" industry in quotes because I believe you view me as a threat to "your" industry.

I think I've said enough, but I'll share/showcase with you and other domainers an .Online domain I registered just last night;

ToolTime.Online

Joe, I paid exactly $1.17 cents for this domain, and not because the .com version wasn't available, but because I preferred the .online version. However, unlike the .com version that's neither in use or for sale, anyone is free to buy it from me, just like I was free to buy it for myself.

Carry on Joe, and thanks for your dedicated following(y)

ps. for anyone reading this, please remember that context, hypocrisy, bigotry, ethics, truth and lies ALL MATTER .Online and offline.
 
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Joe....i probably should be thanking you for all the attention you and your domain friends pay me. In order to keep my response to you OT I just finished registering the following .Online domains;

CancelFreedom.Online
CancelSpeech.Online
CancelRights.Online

To be perfectly clear, this is my OPINION just like you have yours. I don't know who made you the domain police and the judge and jury overseeing the domain industry, but I'm guessing you're self appointed.

In your post and most all previous posts, I believe you have ulterior motives to cancel my speech, my rights and my freedom to do domaining my way. You and other members have commented over and over that I'm bad for "your" industry. I put "your" industry in quotes because I believe you view me as a threat to "your" industry.

I think I've said enough, but I'll share/showcase with you and other domainers an .Online domain I registered just last night;

ToolTime.Online

Joe, I paid exactly $1.17 cents for this domain, and not because the .com version wasn't available, but because I preferred the .online version. However, unlike the .com version that's neither in use or for sale, anyone is free to buy it from me, just like I was free to buy it for myself.

Carry on Joe, and thanks for your dedicated following(y)

ps. for anyone reading this, please remember that context, hypocrisy, bigotry, ethics, truth and lies ALL MATTER .Online and offline.
You can dress it up and do whatever song and dance you need to do to make yourself feel better, Rich. Your ethically challenged decisions aren't made magically heroic or right just because you break out the hilariously overused (and misused) term "cancel culture".

Towne Bank and Discover Bank are unique brands, and you made it very clear that you knew that and registered those names because of how useful you think they would find them. That's as disreputable as when you registered the name of a well-known domain investor in .online in an attempt to connect with them on LinkedIn.

Here are some other domains you might want to think about adding to your collection:

Reputation.online
Integrity.online
Accountability.online

Hope you can find them one day.
 
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You can dress it up and do whatever song and dance you need to do to make yourself feel better, Rich. Your ethically challenged decisions aren't made magically heroic or right just because you break out the hilariously overused (and misused) term "cancel culture".

Towne Bank and Discover Bank are unique brands, and you made it very clear that you knew that and registered those names because of how useful you think they would find them. That's as disreputable as when you registered the name of a well-known domain investor in .online in an attempt to connect with them on LinkedIn.

Here are some other domains you might want to think about adding to your collection:

Reputation.online
Integrity.online
Accountability.online

Hope you can find them one day.
Actually Joe....you and I do view "ethics" and "GoodFaith" and "BadFaith" a lot differently. I was one of the original investors in Towne Bank when they first started about 20 years ago, and Bob Aston their CEO and Chairman is one of my entrepreneur heroes. Just imagine how happy he will be when he learns I bought TowneBank.online to give or share with him because I thought he might want to use it. Joe...like a lot of banks these days, they also own "Towne Realty" under the Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Umbrella aka BHHS.com. I'm sitting here looking at a realtor friends business card that reads; Don.XXXXXatBHHSTowne.com, yet at the top of his business card it says "Towne Realty". I was having lunch with my friend last week and asked, isn't there a lot of confusion with your companies name? To which he said, "heck yeah there is". Now listen very closely Joe....there's a TowneRealty.com in Sammamish, Washington.....please check it out for yourself. Ironically I own TowneRealty.Online to gift or share with my local bank/realty/mortgage business. My realtor friend thought that would be really cool, and will try to arrange for me to meet the lady who is the President of Towne Banks Realty Division. I suppose ethically you have a problem with that Joe? However, because of your agenda, you really don't have a problem with it at all.

Finally, and even though we're debating and staying on topic, here are a few more .online domains I registered last night while you were sleeping;

SleepDisorder.Online
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SleepDoctor.Online

Unfortually Narcolepsy.Online wasn't available, but the sleep business is BIG BUSINESS in case you hadn't noticed. Note also, the .com's in all three of these names aren't available, so what's a sleep doctor to do? Thanks again Joe(y)
 
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I don't want to pile on, but I just want to point something out here...you do know that it's probably not actually GoDaddy selling the name right?

Sure, GD has their own portfolio at NameFind, but anyone can register a name, list it at afternic for a million dollars and point their nameservers to generate an afternic lander with a GoDaddy logo and phone number
Spex....feel free to "pile on". Go Daddy owns many of their own domains, and it's hard to say where they all are....they're not the most forthcoming business on the planet:xf.rolleyes: I've recently had some very bad experiences with them that may end up in court. At least to me, they're one of the most unethical businesses I've ever had the displeasure to work with. That said, i own almost 1.200 .Online domains who's "exact match" left of the .dot com's are valued at almost ten million dollars.

For new members or even older but less experienced members, I'm here sharing my experience having started, named and operated dozens of business's in my 50 year business entrepreneurial career. You need only look at the info page here on NP to learn who I am and what I've accomplished in my lifetime. Fortunately I've made it a point to get to know personally a few heavy weight leaders in the industry, and I know for a fact that a few follow me here on NP. Despite what you may hear me say here and elsewhere, the .online extension is growing exponentially and is rapidly becoming the most successful new gTLD.

And since this thread is a location on NP to showcase .Online domains, here are a few more;

StockAnalyst.Online
SportsAnalyst.Online
FoodCritic.Online
Emancipation.Online
Proclamation.Online


About Emancipation.Online; I grew up in Washington DC where the Lincoln Memorial is, and Abraham Lincoln was known as the Great Emancipator who was responsible for freeing the slaves in America. Abraham Lincoln was/is a hero of mine since I was a kid, and why anyone would want to destroy his statue is far beyond my comprehension. All this said, if you're having a hard time figuring me out or understanding my motives, you should get to know me:xf.smile:
 
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Fortunately I've made it a point to get to know personally a few heavy weight leaders in the industry, and I know for a fact that a few follow me here on NP.
It would be great if they wanted to come on here and vouch for the wisdom of your .online venture. I've never seen a single well-known person in this industry vouch for any of your claims or ideas.
 
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It would be great if they wanted to come on here and vouch for the wisdom of your .online venture. I've never seen a single well-known person in this industry vouch for any of your claims or ideas.

Say hotshot.online......there are plenty who will vouch for me personally, but my ideas for .Online are too new for anyone to formulate an opinion. However, the most respected member on NP Bob Hawkes posted this on this very thread;

"I think the market for .online has improved with the pandemic-related push for more enterprises, even small ones, to need an .online presence.
I recently heard an interview with Frank Schilling and he made the comment that even with the many hundreds of new extensions, surprisingly few are actually generic words implying a website or online presence. I had never really thought about it, but it is true. I mean there is .online, .site, .website, .link, and a few others, but most extensions are more narrow. Club is interesting, as it sort of has pushed into that space, even though generically I would have thought the word club is more specialized.

I think the fact that .online is a Radix TLD is a plus - they have done a good job picking extensions, controlling bad actors, promoting them, etc. Of course it was used for NamesCon because Radix was a diamond sponsor, as I recall.

I would like to see more aftermarket sales and more real world use than we have at present. The other day someone said that the path to acceptance for new extensions will be slow, and it will only be for certain extensions. I think .online will be one of those, but I don't think it will suddenly get popular.

I personally continue to have a handful (about 6) of .online extension names. I like them where I can get a non-premium renewal on a single word where the match across the dot is a relatively common phrase. It is hard to find those though. My favourite is not that common an expression, joyous .online, but I like it in an era when more music, drama, etc. groups are doing online performances. I also have lawful .online that might be good either for robolaw tools, or a law firm on online case specializations, or possibly some sort of reference site.

I would not have got the huge number you did @ThatNameGuy , but I hope you sell enough that it works out for you.

Bob"

Joe...did you miss that? I consider Bob Hawkes a friend, and while I'm sure he doesn't agree with everything I say or do, he doesn't have me on "ignore" or challenge my every word.

Also, Bob is the fairest, most honest and knowledgeable person I know in the domain industry. You should be so lucky to know the guy like I do. I'll leave you with this:

TheNextDotCom.Online.....it may contain four words and 13 letters, but it sure beats TNDC.com for the message my Ad agency wants to get across:xf.smile:
 
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It would be great if they wanted to come on here and vouch for the wisdom of your .online venture. I've never seen a single well-known person in this industry vouch for any of your claims or ideas.
Joe....i want to thank you and your followers once again for keeping my dream alive for .Online vs. com.

I know you try your best to bring out the worst in me, but sometimes it backfires:xf.frown: And anyone following you, me or NP at all knows I have a connection to one of the most respected members here.

I won't dwell on it, but you and your followers should take note:xf.wink: I just finished registering an additional 35 .online domains the first of which is/was DotComAlternative.Online and the last was NicheMarketing.Online.
One might say, i'm involved in a form of niche marketing myself from the standpoint that I've discovered a real alternative to .com, especially when the .com isn't available to buy for a plethora of reasons. That said, i'll leave you with this....one of the 35 .online domains I just registered is NuFashion.Online and as an aside I also registered NuStyle.Online. If you want to see what i'm seeing in this industry i suggest you check out NuFashion.com. I won't comment anymore other than to say there are tens of thousands of names like this still available, and if you don't know how to sell them, I suggest you learn or find someone who can help(y)
 
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Interesting thought, that postings on this forum are opinions. Thanks for the inspiration.
Future Sensors...since you and others have shown an interest here, I thought I might form a consumer advocacy group for which I was able to buy the domain ConsumerAdvocacy.Online. Can you believe when I checked to see if ConsumerAdvocacy.com was available someome at GD had it listed for $24,900:xf.rolleyes:

Now that we're learning there's a viable alternative, in many cases I believe .com prices will become a lot more affordable for the average consumer and business owner. What do you think? Education is key(y)
 
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Rich, it would be a really good idea IMO to check these renewals, try to find the lowest ones somewhere.

Regarding names like BreakingUp.online, you already know what I think of world1word2 form of new gTLDs - there are usually a lot of available alternatives in other new gTLD extensions.

For example, BreakingUp.live or BreakingUp.today are available at the moment of writing - people are TRICKY, they do not want to buy from domain investors if they can avoid it, so they will always try to find reg fee alternatives. And when they have semantically similar alternatives available for reg fee, we as investors will logically have no leverage. So - I prefer to invest in the word1 form of new gTLDs. In .online, I do not have much there, only 2 bit stronger things - repay.online and hypo.online (which means mortgage in the German language).

Saying that there are always exceptions, and I keep my FINGERS CROSSED for some nice sales! :) :)
Marek...as I'm sure you've noticed the aftermarket piece of the domain industry is facing some huge headwinds compliments of Go Daddy and their aftermarket division Afternic. None of what I'm sharing here is OT because of the .online domains I've recently registered. Here are just a few;

FalseNarrative.Online where GD's "exact match" .com domain is for sale on their site for $34,430.

PriceGouging.Online - where the "exact match" .com domain is for sale on their site for $9,999

The fact that you and I have been targeted here and elsewhere is proof that hoarding of domains to create scarcity actual exists. Another great example is a friend of mine who owns nine high end specialty sandwich shops serving 1.7M people in my area has an approved registered trade mark for his business known as Taste®, yet when he tried to buy Taste.com for his business domain, the broker handling it was asking $650,000 for it:xf.rolleyes: What I find interesting is that he found a domain that he's using that works almost as well; Taste.Online. You might say this is an endorsement of sorts for .online vs. .com.

Thanks again Marek
 
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Future Sensors...since you and others have shown an interest here, I thought I might form a consumer advocacy group

Please stop highlighting me in this thread, thank you.
 
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Please stop highlighting me in this thread, thank you.
Oh I'm sorry...i thought you were following me and were interested in discussing .online vs. .com.
 
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I think the market for .online has improved with the pandemic-related push for more enterprises, even small ones, to need an .online presence.

I recently heard an interview with Frank Schilling and he made the comment that even with the many hundreds of new extensions, surprisingly few are actually generic words implying a website or online presence. I had never really thought about it, but it is true. I mean there is .online, .site, .website, .link, and a few others, but most extensions are more narrow. Club is interesting, as it sort of has pushed into that space, even though generically I would have thought the word club is more specialized.

I think the fact that .online is a Radix TLD is a plus - they have done a good job picking extensions, controlling bad actors, promoting them, etc. Of course it was used for NamesCon because Radix was a diamond sponsor, as I recall.

I would like to see more aftermarket sales and more real world use than we have at present. The other day someone said that the path to acceptance for new extensions will be slow, and it will only be for certain extensions. I think .online will be one of those, but I don't think it will suddenly get popular.

I personally continue to have a handful (about 6) of .online extension names. I like them where I can get a non-premium renewal on a single word where the match across the dot is a relatively common phrase. It is hard to find those though. My favourite is not that common an expression, joyous .online, but I like it in an era when more music, drama, etc. groups are doing online performances. I also have lawful .online that might be good either for robolaw tools, or a law firm on online case specializations, or possibly some sort of reference site.

I would not have got the huge number you did @ThatNameGuy , but I hope you sell enough that it works out for you.

Bob
Bob....thanks again for your kind words. Since starting this thread a few weeks ago, I've now accumulated 1,350 .online domains all of which have an "exact match" left of the .com dot. As it turns out the pandemic has helped extensions like .online get more exposure to the world. Also as I'm keying this, .online is still the best and fastest growing nTLD in the world.

I just registered a rather long name; NewDomanExtensions.Online that I also plan to use in my marketing for the new domain brokerage we're planning 2launch.Online.

Currently I'm scripting about a five minute message that a female friend and black realtor will be delivering from our website that will be featuring mostly .online and .realty domains. However, unlike .com domains, they will be reasonably and affordably priced.

Showcase;

Learn2Read.Online
DIYourself.Online
Catch22.Online

Thanks again Bob(n)
 
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I apologize to those following me for not SHOWCASING my daily haul of .ONLINE domains, but here's one for yesterday; LastLaugh.Online remember "laughing is like a mini-vacation" where I think i may also have showcased; MiniVacation.Online

Then just a few minutes ago I regiseted BubbleBath.online where GD values BubbleBath.com for $10,110 and as usual it leads to a deadend.online:xf.rolleyes:, proving once again most .coms aren't available at any price.
 
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After watching the Netflix special "Canine Intervention", this was inspired;

K9ine.online:xf.wink:, sure beats the h*ll out of .com.

I was also able to pick up WeGrill.online (GD is aksing 24K for wegrill.com) and Pumpit.online and Pumpit.com recently sold in a private sale for an outrageous amount of money:xf.eek:
 
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