news Appears DAN to fully stop working with SAV

Bob Hawkes · Jan 19, 2021

DomainGang (@Acroplex ) report

"Domain marketplace DAN.com, has announced the immediate termination of its relationship with SAV.com, a domain marketplace and registrar.

Users of DAN with domains registered at SAV received the following message: "As of today we will fully stop working with Sav.com and do not support any domain transactions at Dan.com or our network for domains managed at Sav.com."

Read full details at source:
https://domaingang.com/domain-news/marketplace-unplug-dan-ends-its-relationship-with-sav/

Tagging @DAN.COM @Nick R , the respective representatives on NamePros, in case they wish to add more.

SergioM · Jan 23, 2021

alcy said:
do u have full info? what is payout fees for PayPal and others.. what are limits for buyer paypal payment..dan has limits...

No, sorry. I don’t use Paypal because Paypal is banned from my country. @Nick R will inform you.

private123 · Jan 23, 2021

alcy said:
do u have full info? what is payout fees for PayPal and others.. what are limits for buyer paypal payment..dan has limits...

TheBuyerz · Jan 23, 2021

Thanks for reporting... what about their users, do they think about them a little? Same story as Epik and Godaddy&Partners... Afternic removed my domains registered with Epik because of a problem related to them and not their users...

It time to switch to another better alternative (if it exists) and stop involving users in their own stories.

It's disrespectful for all of us.

CatchDeleted · Jan 23, 2021

I moved all of my SAV Name servers from Dan.com to Epik after doing some digging given new situation.
Here is a small analysis.Feel free to add/comment..

Dan.com

Pros :

1. Nice lander and excellent service
2. Fast transaction and payment once you submit the Authcode to the Bot.
3. Bitcoin payments supported.
4. Hybrid model with Bodis to monetize using ad revenue
5. Very good support from team

Sav.com

Pros :

1. Lower registration and transfer price
2. Free privacy on domain names
3. Nice Lander and new marketplace option (newly launched and improving)
4. 4% transaction charges compare to 9-20 % industry standard
5. Afternic premium partner (WIP)

Dan.com

Cons :

1. 9% transaction charges compare to Sav’s 4%
2. No full time US time zone support
3. Fighting with everyone in market (First Epik now Sav)
4. Only landing service and no registration/transfer (They should become a registrar now so that people can transfer to them.

Sav.com

Cons :

1. Bulk update was not available from long time finally when it came it is the most buggy thing in market.
2. Thin support team with only few technical folks
3. If you back order and even if you are single bidder, they will put your domain in public bidding. Most GREEDiest thing ever seen in market.
4. No Crypto payments
5. Slow transfer rate for in/out.
6. Marketplace needs improvement to compete with best in market.
7 No monetization from ad revenue

Akinola Taiwo · Jan 23, 2021

To me personally sav is becoming improving and I like their platform they are getting better...

boker · Jan 23, 2021

CatchDeleted said:
I moved all of my SAV Name servers from Dan.com to Epik after doing some digging given new situation.
Here is a small analysis.Feel free to add/comment..

Dan.com

Pros :

1. Nice lander and excellent service
2. Fast transaction and payment once you submit the Authcode to the Bot.
3. Bitcoin payments supported.
4. Hybrid model with Bodis to monetize using ad revenue
5. Very good support from team

Sav.com

Pros :

1. Lower registration and transfer price
2. Free privacy on domain names
3. Nice Lander and new marketplace option (newly launched and improving)
4. 4% transaction charges compare to 9-20 % industry standard
5. Afternic premium partner (WIP)

Dan.com

Cons :

1. 9% transaction charges compare to Sav’s 4%
2. No full time US time zone support
3. Fighting with everyone in market (First Epik now Sav)
4. Only landing service and no registration/transfer (They should become a registrar now so that people can transfer to them.

Sav.com

Cons :

1. Bulk update was not available from long time finally when it came it is the most buggy thing in market.
2. Thin support team with only few technical folks
3. If you back order and even if you are single bidder, they will put your domain in public bidding. Most GREEDiest thing ever seen in market.
4. No Crypto payments
5. Slow transfer rate for in/out.
6. Marketplace needs improvement to compete with best in market.
7 No monetization from ad revenue

The only issue with your analysis is that you are comparing a service tested thousands of times, with a service just started( I can't remember 3 peoples who successfully sold to end users at Sav), I'm curious what will be the average time to finalize a sale after at least a few hundreds sales concluded. Also, we just need to wait and see how long it will last the 4% commission.

Bob Hawkes · Jan 23, 2021

boker said:
peoples who successfully sold to end users at Sav

Hard to separate end user sales for sure, but there are now 496 SAV sales logged at NameBio. 22 of them are $1000 and up (so many are wholesale), Interestingly the top ones are really dominated by .co, including some $8000 sales. I have not tried SAV, so can't comment on how efficient the sales process was, but I think I recall seeing a few in the sold domains thread here.
Bob

boker · Jan 23, 2021

Bob Hawkes said:
Hard to separate end user sales for sure, but there are now 496 SAV sales logged at NameBio. 22 of them are $1000 and up (so many are wholesale), Interestingly the top ones are really dominated by .co, including some $8000 sales. I have not tried SAV, so can't comment on how efficient the sales process was, but I think I recall seeing a few in the sold domains thread here.
Bob

The vast majority of the one's at a few hundreds are resellers sales, mostly .co and .io The few one's over 1k looks like are mostly .co's, so that's pretty odd to have only a couple of .com's and lot's of .co's, so that means that they could be premium registry prices, sold through Sav...Also, Sav it's a domainer as well, selling lot's of domains to end users themselves, so again, that's pretty odd for a registrar, to compete with their customers.

branding · Jan 23, 2021

Meanwhile all my domains are still mysteriously using efty DNS servers. Ongoing issue. Totally unacceptable.

I expect a full report by them before the weekend ends. Wanna know how this could happen, why I haven't been notified and how come I cannot update my nameservers. Amateur hour.

Edit: wrong but related thread. To clarify, they updated all DNS servers for ALL my domains the 14th. The panel shows the right ones but the root zone/whois is showing efty nameservers. Cannot update them. None resolving at all.

twiki · Jan 24, 2021

After carefully analyzing the situation:

Today I moved all my domains off Dan. Reason: Account became unmanageable.

Maintaining 3 platforms (Afternic, Sedo, Dan) was difficult enough already. Having to segment them (no sav domains at dan) is absolutely unmanageable as I'm reaching 20K names soon and perhaps double in an year's time. There are transfers between registrars daily, including from/to Sav. Can't really do this segmentation on a daily basis, on top of everything else. And a customer that purchases a domain but then it can't be sold to them it's a lost customer. So all segmentation errors in this situation count against the bottom line.

I've always been a happy customer and never had any issues with Dan.

But when I saw this thread few days ago, I said to myself, this has the potential of moving users out of Dan platform, especially those with many domains that also use Sav. And it became true today, unfortunately.

I have domains with all registrars, but Sav is an important one among them.

Too bad it has come to this.

frank-germany · Jan 25, 2021

MasterOfMyDomains said:
Kudo's to both sides for not airing your dispute out here in public.

that is the only good news here

childish behavior.
but somehow more grown-up than others here
discussing private issues publically

anyway I found
I like to talk with my customers
and deal with them myself

golan · Jan 27, 2021

poweredbyme said:
Yes, but DAN will lose more IMO. Because low pricing of SAV keeps them in a indispensable position. DAN is more replaceable with one of its competitors.

Exactly. That's what i was going to say.

I made a few grands the last months on Sav domains. I would NOT see these few grands in my pocket if i didn't use Sav for backorders.

Yes they are buggy as hell and are difficult to work with, but that's a humble price of working with them. And they are improving slowly but steadily and eventually all and every my problem is getting solved, even if it takes a week or two. Who cares? I have few extra grands to provide.

Whilst Dan, they are totally replaceable with any other similar marketplace. I left them more than a year ago and didn't regret for a second.

Future Sensors · Jan 27, 2021

golan said:
Yes they are buggy as hell and are difficult to work with, but that's a humble price of working with them. And they are improving slowly but steadily and eventually all and every my problem is getting solved, even if it takes a week or two. Who cares? I have few extra grands to provide.

I'm not sure whether this is a compliment or not. Are you suggesting that SAV is a registrar for vanity / non-production domains only?

golan · Jan 27, 2021

Future Sensors said:
I'm not sure if this is a compliment or not. Are you suggesting that SAV is a registrar for vanity / non-production domains only?

This was not a compliment, this was just a fact observation.

I'm not sure what you mean by "vanity / non-production domains"; for me, Sav is a registrar for domains that bring me profit.

smarti · Jul 27, 2021

I had to re-address this old dusty thread again:

1. I didn't get any email from DAN on this matter - DAN should have put that on their blog or elsewhere publicly accessible - or just put a warning banner on the domain upload page.

2. DAN is a marketplace while SAV is a registrar - really an absolutely silly move from DAN to just refuse working with SAV - that's my opinion. However, every company has the freedom and the right to set their own rules, so I have to accept it to remove my portfolio from DAN.

3. End of 2020 beginning 2021 I transferred out about 5 names from SAV and closed some of them on SedoMLS - I never experienced any delay or issues with SAV. Furthermore, you simply can just confirm transfer-out manually on SAV, which allows the domain to move within minutes. Yes, they do have minor technical issues on their platform, but their support was competent to resolve that. So, no reason for me to abandon working with SAV.

But what really pisses me off is that @DAN.COM let me know about their issue with SAV after a sale was closed and the domain has been paid by the buyer, then they asked me to remove all SAV registered domains from my portfolio.

This is absolutely not OK - @DAN.COM should have rejected the names at the point of submission already - technically that can be done very easily. And at least you can add an info-banner on the domain upload form to inform users about this issue. Instead, DAN has wasted my time and that from the buyer - while advantaging from the higher numbers of listed domains.

DAN.COM · Jul 27, 2021

smarti said:
I had to re-address this old dusty thread again:

1. I didn't get any email from DAN on this matter - DAN should have put that on their blog or elsewhere publicly accessible - or just put a warning banner on the domain upload page.

2. DAN is a marketplace while SAV is a registrar - really an absolutely silly move from DAN to just refuse working with SAV - that's my opinion. However, every company has the freedom and the right to set their own rules, so I have to accept it to remove my portfolio from DAN.

3. End of 2020 beginning 2021 I transferred out about 5 names from SAV and closed some of them on SedoMLS - I never experienced any delay or issues with SAV. Furthermore, you simply can just confirm transfer-out manually on SAV, which allows the domain to move within minutes. Yes, they do have minor technical issues on their platform, but their support was competent to resolve that. So, no reason for me to abandon working with SAV.

But what really pisses me off is that @DAN.COM let me know about their issue with SAV after a sale was closed and the domain has been paid by the buyer, then they asked me to remove all SAV registered domains from my portfolio.

This is absolutely not OK - @DAN.COM should have rejected the names at the point of submission already - technically that can be done very easily. And at least you can add an info-banner on the domain upload form to inform users about this issue. Instead, DAN has wasted my time and that from the buyer - while advantaging from the higher numbers of listed domains.

We're sorry for the inconvenience caused by this. At Dan, we take protecting our users seriously. We stopped working with SAV over a year ago after many attempts to create a workable situation with them.

In these cases we never let the sale go bust and facilitate you moving the buyer to another platform so you can still sell the domain somewhere else. If that for some reason isn't offered to you by our team please send us a private message while mentioning the domain in question and we'll arrange something for you.

frostify · Jul 27, 2021

This will definitely make me think twice about using @DAN.COM again in the future.
I've had successful purchases and sales with them but if it's SAV today, who's to say what registrar will be on their ban list tomorrow. I think it sets a dangerous precedent.

Bohdan · Jul 27, 2021

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smarti said:
I had to re-address this old dusty thread again:

1. I didn't get any email from DAN on this matter - DAN should have put that on their blog or elsewhere publicly accessible - or just put a warning banner on the domain upload page.

2. DAN is a marketplace while SAV is a registrar - really an absolutely silly move from DAN to just refuse working with SAV - that's my opinion. However, every company has the freedom and the right to set their own rules, so I have to accept it to remove my portfolio from DAN.

3. End of 2020 beginning 2021 I transferred out about 5 names from SAV and closed some of them on SedoMLS - I never experienced any delay or issues with SAV. Furthermore, you simply can just confirm transfer-out manually on SAV, which allows the domain to move within minutes. Yes, they do have minor technical issues on their platform, but their support was competent to resolve that. So, no reason for me to abandon working with SAV.

But what really pisses me off is that @DAN.COM let me know about their issue with SAV after a sale was closed and the domain has been paid by the buyer, then they asked me to remove all SAV registered domains from my portfolio.

This is absolutely not OK - @DAN.COM should have rejected the names at the point of submission already - technically that can be done very easily. And at least you can add an info-banner on the domain upload form to inform users about this issue. Instead, DAN has wasted my time and that from the buyer - while advantaging from the higher numbers of listed domains.

Agree, at least they could have been asked you to move the domain to another registrar and then to proceed with the push and 60 days lock

phaethon · Oct 31, 2021

Hey, guys, any updates? Can you sell Sav registered domains at Dan.com?

Amit V · Oct 31, 2021

phaethon said:
Hey, guys, any updates? Can you sell Sav registered domains at Dan.com?

Yes, I contacted them about this . They replied " as long as the domains are over 2 months old"

Hi Amit,

Thank you for reaching out!

You can list your domains managed at SAV.com as long as they are older than 60 days and do not have transfer restrictions.

Let me know if I can be of any further assistance!

Future Sensors · Oct 31, 2021

Amit V said:
Yes, I contacted them about this . They replied " as long as the domains are over 2 months old"

And:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/da...official-thread.1148567/page-116#post-8235738

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