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Well, the Senate was designed to represent the small states, but in fairness at the time you did not have population gaps like today. You didn't have 40M in one state and 600,000 in another...

You also didn't have near as many states.

Still, let's set the Senate aside. The House, which is 100% designed to be representative of the population of states is wildly out of line now.

https://www.thegreenpapers.com/Census10/FedRep.phtml

As you can see on the right side, the "People per house seat" varies wildly by state.

On top of that gerrymandering of districts has not helped. It has lead to results that often don't reflect the will of the voters, and leads to extremely low quality candidates, think of people in the current crop like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert.

Brad

Wow, that's very interesting. I didn't know it's so screwed-up!

Montana has almost 1 million people, but only 1 House seat. While Nebraska has about the same population, but 3 House seats.

And West Virginia is also around 1 million, but has 3 seats... but is even so much smaller in land size than Montana.

Yes, the gerrymandering is ridiculous. In Canada, they have a non-partisan commission that sets the boundaries.
 
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KeyStone Pipeline too? Dont say Trump didnt warn you
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Yes, the gerrymandering is ridiculous. In Canada, they have a non-partisan commission that sets the boundaries.

HR1 aka For The People Act, is high on the legislative agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._1_(116th_Congress)

It has already been introduced in the new Congress (117th) as well, and attempts to fix a lot of these blatant issues.

I had that on my top 5 priority list when someone asked me earlier in this thread.

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‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump

Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html

I think Trump is going to become irrelevant a lot quicker than people realize. He has no real outlet now without the bully pulpit or social media. Also, being a loser is not popular, especially a sore loser.

It seems like many of his supporters are finally coming to the realization that they were lied to and mislead.

All the people who stormed the capitol, believing on his orders, now are left facing potentially very serious criminal charges.

Brad

Remember this recent one:

I would like a pardon from the President of the United States.” Dallas area realtor Jenna Ryan is the 2nd D.C. riot participant to ask for one. She flew on a private jet to D.C. to “stop the steal.” FBI arrested her today. She says: I feel persecuted."

No pardons for you guys, sorry.

 
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Like “open borders”?
Dont get why “Muslim ban”? Venezuela is in there.!
Biden is “Woke” hack who believes open borders!

I am sorry, are you having a different conversation than me?

I am not sure how that is relevant to the bill I posted.

The "open borders" is simply a stawman argument not worth entertaining.

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‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump

Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html

I think Trump is going to become irrelevant a lot quicker than people realize. He has no real outlet now without the bully pulpit or social media. Also, being a loser is not popular, especially a sore loser.

It seems like many of his supporters are finally coming to the realization that they were lied to and mislead.

All the people who stormed the capitol, believing on his orders, now are left facing potentially very serious criminal charges.

Brad

My friend, Proud Boys are the failures.
They’re a misnomer; Are they a LGBQ rights club.?
They shouldnt “Proud” of being quoted media dirty shots

By the way.. Who are “Proud Boys” again?
They want that 15 seconds of fame back so badly,
willing trash guy who never said anything bad them?

Wait, wasnt it bad, if Trump supported them?
Now you’re quoting them as if theyre good?
I wonder why? Could it be... anyone Hate Trump good!

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Remember this recent one:

I would like a pardon from the President of the United States.” Dallas area realtor Jenna Ryan is the 2nd D.C. riot participant to ask for one. She flew on a private jet to D.C. to “stop the steal.” FBI arrested her today. She says: I feel persecuted."

No pardons for you guys, sorry.


Oh yeah, I saw an article about her the other day:
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/realtor-jenna-ryan-pleads-trump-pardon/


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Realtor who flew on private jet to storm the Capitol pleads to Trump: ‘I think we all deserve a pardon’


"I listened to my president, who told me to go to the Capitol, that I was displaying my patriotism while I was there"

Ryan posted multiple times on social media about her involvement in the riots. Different videos Ryan posted show her saying, "We're going to break the windows" and "We are going to f*cking go in [the Capitol], life or death, it doesn’t matter."
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But of course, we have some people in this thread trying to say they were just actors. But Trump had literally told them to fight.
 
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I am sorry, are you having a different conversation than me?

I am not sure how that is relevant to the bill I posted.

The "open borders" is simply a stawman argument not worth entertaining.

Brad

“Strawman”? some “next level stuff” as AC would say.
 
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I read every one of his executive orders, and they all seem pretty reasonable to me.

As far as the Keystone pipeline, the construction already stalled when oil prices dropped.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...e-xl-stalls-again-along-with-other-pipelines/

There is simply not the demand for oil as in the past, and it is likely to be even lower going forward.

There are also environmental issues that were not properly researched.

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I read every one of his executive orders, and they all seem pretty reasonable to me.

As far as the Keystone pipeline, the construction already stalled when oil prices dropped.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...e-xl-stalls-again-along-with-other-pipelines/

There is simply not the demand for oil as in the past, and it is likely to be even lower going forward.

There are also environmental issues that were not properly researched.

Brad

Oil over $50

Both Brent WTI and Crude.

The company (KXL) will now be sold for scraps
 
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“Strawman”? some “next level stuff” as AC would say.

A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the proper idea of argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

Who is seriously advocating for "open borders"...You know just allowing everyone in with no vetting whatsoever?

 
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Oh yeah, I saw an article about her the other day:
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/realtor-jenna-ryan-pleads-trump-pardon/


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Realtor who flew on private jet to storm the Capitol pleads to Trump: ‘I think we all deserve a pardon’


"I listened to my president, who told me to go to the Capitol, that I was displaying my patriotism while I was there"

Ryan posted multiple times on social media about her involvement in the riots. Different videos Ryan posted show her saying, "We're going to break the windows" and "We are going to f*cking go in [the Capitol], life or death, it doesn’t matter."
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But of course, we have some people in this thread trying to say they were just actors.

Trump probably not too happy most of them are pointing the finger at him.
 
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HR1 aka For The People Act, is high on the legislative agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._1_(116th_Congress)

It has already been introduced in the new Congress (117th) as well, and attempts to fix a lot of these blatant issues.

I had that on my top 5 priority list when someone asked me earlier in this thread.

Brad

That's great, I didn't know those fixes have already been introduced. Hopefully it passes - I don't see how any average person should really disagree with these ideas:



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._1_(116th_Congress)

The bill's provisions fall into three major categories:[3][9]

  • Campaign finance reform. The bill would introduce voluntary public financing for campaigns, matching small donations at a 6:1 ratio.[10] It also incorporates campaign finance reform provisions from the DISCLOSE Act,[10][11] which would impose stricter limitations on foreign lobbying, require Super PACs and other "dark money" organizations to disclose their donors, and restructure the Federal Election Commission to reduce partisan gridlock. The bill expresses support for a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, in which the Supreme Court held that limits on independent political expenditures by corporations, labor unions, and other associations are unconstitutional.
  • Government ethics. The bill would require presidential and vice-presidential candidates to disclose their previous 10 years of income tax returns, eliminate the use of taxpayer money by politicians to settle sexual harassment claims, and create a new ethics code for the U.S. Supreme Court, which is not subject to existing judicial codes of conduct.
  • Voting rights. The bill would create a national voter registration program, make Election Day a federal holiday, replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts, and limit efforts to purge voting rolls.
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But of course, I see the Republicans blocked in the past 2 years.
 
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Wait, wasnt it bad, if Trump supported them?
Now you’re quoting them as if theyre good?
I wonder why? Could it be... anyone Hate Trump good!

I am simply quoting the article. I certainly don't support an extremist group like the Pride Boys.

Brad
 
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Not much to go on, first briefing but I am liking her so far. Remember, we're not just getting Biden in but a whole bunch of new people, many who have served before. It's going to feel more decent, intelligent, honest.
 
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Trump probably not too happy most of them are pointing the finger at him.

Trump now has unlimited criminal and civil exposure with no DOJ or Presidential shield to protect him. Good times.

Brad
 
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A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the proper idea of argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

Who is seriously advocating for "open borders"...You know just allowing everyone in with no vetting whatsoever?

i know what a strawman is Brad.

no, but the bigoted attitude condescending to those who want to protect our country should be re-evaluated

Brad, i will go into specifics.
I know you’re a respected business man, i value input
When Trump banned “H1 Visas” hiring to promote
Hiring WITHIN. Was that RaCiSt??!! Coverage was.

Trump suspended H1 Visa’s seems good thing?
“Open borders” is broad, ambigious, i’ll give you that.
But you take it literally, when this complicated issue; is my biggest beef with Biden’s policy.

It’s not “racist” to vet immigrants;
and have tougher stance.
The “Wall” isnt racist Brad.
Democrats see it as a symbol of division & hate and the coverage makes seem like “Stalin” our President. Replace “Stalin” any dictator.

Media shots most bias; they are the biggest bullies.
And i tend to believe their nuanced tone promoted a lot of vitriol at our boy Trump. (Countless examples)
 
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I am simply quoting the article. I certainly don't support an extremist group like the Pride Boys.

Brad

i know you dont, but the article was!

They seemed revered... cuz trashing Trump!

macro issue, and my main beef with media partisan.
 
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i know what a strawman is Brad.

no, but the bigoted attitude condescending to those who want to protect our country should be re-evaluated

Brad, i will go into specifics.
I know you’re a respected business man, i value input
When Trump banned “H1 Visas” hiring to promote
Hiring WITHIN. Was that RaCiSt??!! Coverage was.

Trump suspended H1 Visa’s seems good thing?
“Open borders” is broad, ambigious, i’ll give you that.
But you take it literally, when this complicated issue; is my biggest beef with Biden’s policy.

It’s not “racist” to vet immigrants;
and have tougher stance.
The “Wall” isnt racist Brad.
Democrats see it as a symbol of division & hate and the coverage makes seem like “Stalin” our President. Replace “Stalin” any dictator.

Media shots most bias; they are the biggest bullies.
And i tend to believe their nuanced tone promoted a lot of vitriol at our boy Trump. (Countless examples)

You know a lot of the argument is how you present and frame it, more than the policy itself.

The same policy itself could have very different optics depending on the reasoning behind it and presentation of it.

If you have a reasoned argument, leading to a practical solution that is different than the same policy coming from a place of animus.

No one serious is arguing for "open borders".

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You know a lot of the argument is how you present and frame it, more than the policy itself.

The same policy itself could have very different optics depending on the reasoning behind it and presentation of it.

If you have a reasoned argument, leading to a practical solution that is different than the same policy coming from a place of animus.

No one serious is arguing for "open borders".

Brad
i think it foreshadows "open borders"...

Seems hell-bent undoing everything Trump done, sans Abraham Accords, maybe China stance.

Maybe it's an overreaction, since reality, will start to hit a lot of people; Biden 46, time will tell. : ))
 
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i think it foreshadows "open borders"...

Seems hell-bent undoing everything Trump done, sans Abraham Accords, maybe China stance.

Maybe it's an overreaction, since reality, will start to hit a lot of people; Biden 46, time will tell. : ))

I would say it is an overreaction. At least give Joe a fair chance and see how it goes first.

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Shocking.... The day Joe Biden is sworn in, the standards for a positive china-plague test were changed to reduce false positives.

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I would say it is an overreaction. At least give Joe a fair chance and see how it goes first.

Brad

Joe's already said he would let illegals stay in the USA while waiting adjudication of their claims. Catch and release is back in a big way man.
 
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