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Hi Folks, This is my first request for some appraisal feedback as a new member. I hope you’ll forgive me for listing a more than a few domains. Any feedback on any of them would be very welcome. Thanks. (y)

.COMS

eucod.com

entitydata.com

cryptocurrencyfilter.com

financecell.com

financingwomen.com

holdad.com

ingotgold.com

luckstory.com

pricedepo.com

sewizard.com

timeher.com

uwllc.com (You Will See)

wolrdshop.com (This is interesting and a bit of a conundrum. It’s a misspelling which is such an illusion that I didn’t see it until after I’d bought it. I’m usually careful about correct spelling. In this case, when you put it in Google it presents the results for worldshop.com and brings up 3.2 million results)

OTHER EXTENSIONS

70s.co

bit.report

clothing.repair

ido.business

ow.money

quality.credit

BRANDABLES

redEenergy.com (I think this has huge potential)

ni9e.com (I like this a lot – like a favourite pet!)

pitapiper.com

nipfit.com

clubinar.com

shivrr.com
 
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Hi, Hope I haven't put you off by posting multiple domains. Would value your opinion even if it's only about one or a couple of them. Cheers
 
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I can't find a single name in there worth renewing. Sorry.
 
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I can't find a single name in there worth renewing. Sorry.

my clothing.repair (for example) has the same Estibot appraisal as your candy.finance ($2,700). It also has a medium demand for advertising and established cost per click. I can't speak to the extension trends and assume that .finance is attractive right now. So perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I do appreciate it. Will be watching and learning.
 
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my clothing.repair (for example) has the same Estibot appraisal as your candy.finance ($2,700). It also has a medium demand for advertising and established cost per click. I can't speak to the extension trends and assume that .finance is attractive right now. So perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I do appreciate it. Will be watching and learning.
There's a reason why domain brokers get human appraisals rather than relying on random websites to spit out a number. C/a/n/d/y/.finance is valuable for reasons that "Estibot" doesn't understand. The owner of somebody in the garment alterations or tailoring business would not be interested in paying any considerable amount of money for your clothing.repair (I assume that's your market).
 
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There's a reason why domain brokers get human appraisals rather than relying on random websites to spit out a number. C/a/n/d/y/.finance is valuable for reasons that "Estibot" doesn't understand. The owner of somebody in the garment alterations or tailoring business would not be interested in paying any considerable amount of money for your clothing.repair (I assume that's your market).
Sorry, took me a while to respond. Got busy. There's a reason why this thread exists and why I have used it....to seek human input. And there's a reason why domainers use a range of automated valuations services in conjunction with their own research, including referring to other domainers in a community like this, looking at previous domain sales info, market trends etc; professional human appraisals are expensive. Of course the most important part of appraising domains are the elements a "bot" can't factor in. However, it would be disingenuous to suggest that domainers don't use automated appraisals as a part of their arsenal of tools when valuing a domain. These tools provide useful information apart from their (usually inaccurate) valuation. Obviously, you take those with a large grain of salt and do further research, accounting for those factors that "Estibot doesn't understand". We'll have to agree to disagree on clothing.repair.
 
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I would submit Red // Energy (com) & Clubinar // (com) to BrandBucket & SquadHelp - if accepted prob in the 1600 - 2400 range.

GL
 
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Also, I think - if wrong plz correct me - the "Estibot doesn't know" is referring to the function of the algorithm used by Estibot for the valuation. Estibot is really seeing the keywords, it understands you submitted a non-.com, but doesn't have the ability to apply real world search behavior. e.g. It sees the left and right of the dot as 2 keywords (not keyword/s + extension), so you are seeing the combined 2 keywords being (almost) presented back as the results the .com would see not necessarily the new dot. Make sense?

There is more to it & I prob did a poor job explaining - but hopefully there was something helpful in there. HAHA

GL
 
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Hi @OzWorks, and a belated welcome to the forum.

I agree with the other posters in that I don't see many names of value in the list you posted. If they were mine, I would definitely hang onto:

Clubinar
Shivrr

Those could go for $2K to $4K as brandable names.

I don't like these ones personally, but I could see an argument for keeping them depending on renewal cost (under $15 ideally for the non .coms):

eucod/com
70s/co
bit/report
quality/credit

Those last two are very iffy, though, simply because the aftermarket sales data for those extensions is almost nil, and the keywords are not top tier.

I think you can safely drop all the rest without regret.

The most important consideration for a domain name you buy should be whether or not a business would be proud to use it as a brand, or to invest significant money building a website on it. Doing a bit of background research can help. You want to look at things like:
  • Popularity of the keyword(s)
  • Popularity of the extension
  • How widely the term is already being used online and/or by existing businesses
Some comments I have on a few of the ones I would drop:

Wolrd/Shop - Typo domains were popular back when type-in traffic was a much bigger deal. Now you should avoid them unless they could make for a trendy brand (like Shivrr).

Red/E/energy - If this were RedEnergy, it would be your best name. The extra E kills it. I see what you're going for... ReadyEnergy… and yes maybe a business could use it to be cute and clever, but it's an extremely low odds play. This may have been a case of you seeing the name (or thinking it up) and thinking it was very clever, but you need to focus on what businesses actually want and use. Don't try to force an idea onto a name when no one else seems to see it.

Clothing/Repair - As a ngTLD name, you're on the right track by focusing on strong, single commercial or brand words. The issue here is that clothing repair is typically just one service that is offered by a tailor or clothing shop. There don't seem to be any existing websites built around it, and if there were going to be, you'd be fighting it out against many other possible options. New TLD names are most successful when there is already a lot of existing competition for the term in question. On top of that, .repair has almost no sales history.

Ni9e - I'm actually on the fence about this one. If you love it, then of course keep it for now. Looks like there's evidence of people using the name in forums and on gaming sites. There appears to be an artist named Cloud Ni9e as well, so that's something. Your odds are probably slim on selling this one for much, but you never know. Generally, try to avoid pairing numbers and letters in cute ways. The strongest number/word parings are things like Bet247, Global360, 420Shop.

Keep reading and asking questions! Lots of good info here on NP.
 
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Red/E/energy - If this were RedEnergy, it would be your best name.

@Joe Nichols , thanks for pointing that out - I misread the name (didnt see the second e) Just to make sure I'm not misleading with the post above. I have to agree with Joe's quote above - & was kind of confused as to why you didnt choose it in your top 2. Now I get it.!

Best of luck,
 
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Also, I think - if wrong plz correct me - the "Estibot doesn't know" is referring to the function of the algorithm used by Estibot for the valuation. Estibot is really seeing the keywords, it understands you submitted a non-.com, but doesn't have the ability to apply real world search behavior. e.g. It sees the left and right of the dot as 2 keywords (not keyword/s + extension), so you are seeing the combined 2 keywords being (almost) presented back as the results the .com would see not necessarily the new dot. Make sense?

There is more to it & I prob did a poor job explaining - but hopefully there was something helpful in there. HAHA

GL
Also, I think - if wrong plz correct me - the "Estibot doesn't know" is referring to the function of the algorithm used by Estibot for the valuation. Estibot is really seeing the keywords, it understands you submitted a non-.com, but doesn't have the ability to apply real world search behavior. e.g. It sees the left and right of the dot as 2 keywords (not keyword/s + extension), so you are seeing the combined 2 keywords being (almost) presented back as the results the .com would see not necessarily the new dot. Make sense?

There is more to it & I prob did a poor job explaining - but hopefully there was something helpful in there. HAHA

GL
Hi @BrandPlease (or GL ?),

Thanks very much for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it. On Red/E/Energy. I certainly agree that Red/Energy would have been a better option but it's taken. It's an existing company here in Oz. I picked it up as an expired domain feeling that it had potential for branding. Possibly the biggest issue with it is that it's market is primarily energy companies and (in general) they have the funds to buy themselves ultra premium domains. This then limits it's market to smaller players which means - not much of a market at all. All in all, I've done some more work on it and tend to agree with the general assessments here - not a star.

Yes, I do understand the point you've made about Estibot valuations (and the point being made by Mr. Walsh). It's an extremely blunt tool, at best. As I'm sure we all have, I've seen it give $0 readings on some very valuable domains. Domain valuation is an art not a science and there are numerous elements to consider. I guess the issue for many of us is that it takes a great deal of time, effort, practice, focus and experience to get to the point where you can confidently appraise domains and, even then, it still comes down to what the market will pay. That's why people get paid for professional appraisals.

It's also why I appreciate this forum and the people in the community who are generous enough to give their feedback. Many heads are better than one and experienced heads are a gift. Thanks for yours.

Along with the established tool of Godaddy, Estibot, Namebio, DNPric.es etc I have also been using Nameworth which I'm finding very useful. I particularly like the spread of price indicators it gives for different levels of the market. It also seems to be pretty handy at tagging low value domains. Yes, I then still have to add my human assessment and research to the mix. I'd be interested in the opinions of those who've used it.

Cheers
 
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Hi @OzWorks, and a belated welcome to the forum.

I agree with the other posters in that I don't see many names of value in the list you posted. If they were mine, I would definitely hang onto:

Clubinar
Shivrr

Those could go for $2K to $4K as brandable names.

I don't like these ones personally, but I could see an argument for keeping them depending on renewal cost (under $15 ideally for the non .coms):

eucod/com
70s/co
bit/report
quality/credit

Those last two are very iffy, though, simply because the aftermarket sales data for those extensions is almost nil, and the keywords are not top tier.

I think you can safely drop all the rest without regret.

The most important consideration for a domain name you buy should be whether or not a business would be proud to use it as a brand, or to invest significant money building a website on it. Doing a bit of background research can help. You want to look at things like:
  • Popularity of the keyword(s)
  • Popularity of the extension
  • How widely the term is already being used online and/or by existing businesses
Some comments I have on a few of the ones I would drop:

Wolrd/Shop - Typo domains were popular back when type-in traffic was a much bigger deal. Now you should avoid them unless they could make for a trendy brand (like Shivrr).

Red/E/energy - If this were RedEnergy, it would be your best name. The extra E kills it. I see what you're going for... ReadyEnergy… and yes maybe a business could use it to be cute and clever, but it's an extremely low odds play. This may have been a case of you seeing the name (or thinking it up) and thinking it was very clever, but you need to focus on what businesses actually want and use. Don't try to force an idea onto a name when no one else seems to see it.

Clothing/Repair - As a ngTLD name, you're on the right track by focusing on strong, single commercial or brand words. The issue here is that clothing repair is typically just one service that is offered by a tailor or clothing shop. There don't seem to be any existing websites built around it, and if there were going to be, you'd be fighting it out against many other possible options. New TLD names are most successful when there is already a lot of existing competition for the term in question. On top of that, .repair has almost no sales history.

Ni9e - I'm actually on the fence about this one. If you love it, then of course keep it for now. Looks like there's evidence of people using the name in forums and on gaming sites. There appears to be an artist named Cloud Ni9e as well, so that's something. Your odds are probably slim on selling this one for much, but you never know. Generally, try to avoid pairing numbers and letters in cute ways. The strongest number/word parings are things like Bet247, Global360, 420Shop.

Keep reading and asking questions! Lots of good info here on NP.
Hi @Joe Nichols,

Thank you so much for your detailed and generous response. It is sincerely appreciated. I'm grateful for the time you've taken to share your opinion and rationale for each domain individually.

I certainly agree that Shivrr and Clubinar are worthwhile brandables and your value assessment is in the same ballpark as I thought. See my post to @BrandPlease regarding Re/E/Energy. On Wolrd/Shop - yes, I absolutely agree. I wouldn't have bought it (an expired pick-up) if I had noticed the typo. I'm not interested in names with typos unless, of course, there is some very compelling reason. I simply didn't see it when I picked it up and, thinking I had a a gem, rushed to grab it before someone else did. Didn't see the typo until afterwards. Doh! An $8 lesson that one. Mind you, it IS very interesting that Google doesn't seem to be bothered by the typo. It gives almost as many search results as World/Shop.

On the others. Thanks for your thoughts. They are considered and helpful; as are your general comments about the elements of a good domain. I appreciate it.

I do have an inbuilt resistance to letting any domains go, even bad ones. How much energy is worth investing in putting them to auction (at a low reserve)? Is it better to just let them drop?

It turns out, contrary to what I would like to have believed, that I'm not smarter than the average Joe (excuse the pun) when it comes to learning this industry. I've made all the starter mistakes I was sure I would avoid and I'm sure I'll make more but, the good thing is, I can now recognise many of my mistakes and am learning from them. I'm working on tidying up my portfolio and, while there is always much to learn, I can make better choices now than I could 2 years ago. Onwards and upwards. :stig:

As per my reply to @BrandPlease above, I'd value your opinion of Nameworth if you have used them. Cheers
 
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