To Mask or not To Mask... is there even a question?

VRDomainNames said:

It's not like people are asking you to wear a jersey for the team you hate the most. It's mask. Big deal.

I'd love to know how many covid ... mask
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I'm curious how much
bacteria
viral particulates
and other debris
festers on the masks people like to wear

Said it before,Thailand where I live,masks santiser social distancing for about 8 months now.
Less than 3,000 infections, 59 deaths.
Vietnam same precautions, a few hundred infections 1 death.

The USA with complete lack of cohesion 200,000+ dead , thousands infected. Says it all, masks plus other precautions work.

and in Taiwan 7 deaths (24 million people)


and in California 19,xxx deaths all year since the plandemic started. (40 million people) (a puffed questionable yet still very low figure)

Compassion said:

I'm curious how much
bacteria
viral particulates
and other debris
festers on the masks people like to wear

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That's why you're supposed to wash or change your mask often. Nothing is perfect. Just a little common sense is needed. People who wear masks and use them again later are not doing themselves or anyone any good. Maybe if they immediately put it into a ziploc bag or something, maybe. But putting in your pocket, purse, on the counter, on the seat of your car, etc, won't do you or anyone else any good.

Just came to realize that there is an extra advantage to wearing a mask which is it keeps your nose and lips from freezing in the cold of wniter.

VRDomainNames said:

That's why you're supposed to wash or change your mask often. Nothing is perfect. Just a little common sense is needed. People who wear masks and use them again later are not doing themselves or anyone any good. Maybe if they immediately put it into a ziploc bag or something, maybe. But putting in your pocket, purse, on the counter, on the seat of your car, etc, won't do you or anyone else any good.

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So all those dirty diaper looking masks all over the ground all over the country = no bueno?

oldtimer said:

Just came to realize that there is another advantage to wearing a mask which is it keeps your nose and lips from freezing in the cold of wniter.

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There is a time and place for masks indeed.

For us it's fallout from fires.

(and when one has bacteria infections)

dirty mask will give you legionnaires disease. Make sure to wash them. You should really have 7 mask or disposable ones. So you can change them everyday.

VRDomainNames said:

That's why you're supposed to wash or change your mask often. Nothing is perfect. Just a little common sense is needed. People who wear masks and use them again later are not doing themselves or anyone any good. Maybe if they immediately put it into a ziploc bag or something, maybe. But putting in your pocket, purse, on the counter, on the seat of your car, etc, won't do you or anyone else any good.

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Yep. Blaming a dirty mask is like blaming underwear for getting dirty.

What do you think is going to happen if you never change or wash them? That is not the fault of the mask; it is the fault of the person.

You can easily get a 100x pack of disposable masks for $15 or under.
There is really no excuse for not wearing a clean mask.

Brad

Compassion said:

There is a time and place for masks indeed.

For us it's fallout from fires.

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I meant to say that there is an extra advantage to wearing a mask, in addition to preventing the spread of covid.

The Durfer said:

dirty mask will give you legionnaires disease. Make sure to wash them. You should really have 7 mask or disposable ones. So you can change them everyday.

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I use a disposable mask for several days at a time, but I speay it with alcohol every night so that it will be fresh for the next day and then when it gets too worn out I throw it away and use a new one.

IMO

VRDomainNames said:

People who wear masks and use them again later are not doing themselves or anyone any good. Maybe if they immediately put it into a ziploc bag or something, maybe.

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I don't think that placing a used mask in a ziploc bag is a good idea as the enclosed environment might actually cause the bacteria that is already on the mask to grow. Although for new masks that haven't been used yet it's probably best if they are kept in a bag or box to keep them clean.

IMO

Winix HEPA filters all throughout the house - This is one strategy for a wealth of health I do use.



These filters suck up the particles as small as a virus where as even the N95 mask falls short in micron diameter as what one classifies as a "covid virus"




Remember coronaviruses are the common colds people - The nasty cold's weak nephew.


Data is self evident in California.

The common cold may have in fact been found in a bit more than 19,000 deaths for a year!

What are you scared of?
No reason to be scared.

Compassion said:

Winix HEPA filters all throughout the house - This is one strategy for a wealth of health I do use.



These filters suck up the particles as small as a virus where as even the N95 mask falls short in micron diameter as what one classifies as a "covid virus"




Remember coronaviruses are the common colds people - The nasty cold's weak nephew.


Data is self evident in California.

The common cold may have in fact been found in a bit more than 19,000 deaths for a year!

What are you scared of?
No reason to be scared.

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Filtering the air in your house is a very good idea, more people should be doing that for all enclosed spaces that they gather in. Sunlight, fresh air, and some artificial ultraviolet lights have also shown to be effective in controlling the virus in certain types of environments too.

The common cold was probably as deadly as the Covid 19 when it originally was transferred to humans. Most likely today's new form of Coronavirus is going to stay with us and over time it will become the cause for a milder disease like cold and flu that we have to learn to live with. It's imperative that we use all the tools that are available to us such as physical distancing, frequent hand washing, and wearing masks to try to keep these viruses under control before they find a large reservoir of humans and other animals to expand their reach and cause wave after wave of more pandemics in the future.

IMO

Most of us care about the elderly and those who have a preexisting condition that makes them vulnerable to becoming seriously sick by the virus,

But, as the number of hospitalizations and deaths keep rising due to the Pandemic, it makes me wonder whether there are some among us who have a different philosophy when it comes to helping to keep the elderly and the vulnerable safe.

The fact that some people are being intentionally defiant when it comes to abiding by the Pandemic guidelines and protocols specially when it comes to physical distancing, frequent hand washing, and wearing masks it makes me think that perhaps those people are dancing to a different tune than the rest of us and that their goal might be totally opposite to what the rest of us are trying to achieve.

As most of us are trying to save the elderly and the vulnerable amongst us from an untimely death, what if some people actually want the elderly and the vulnerable to die, after all there are those who believe in the survival of the best and the fittest and I won't put it passed them to be trying to thin out the heard by intentionally contributing to the spreading of the virus.

I hate to think that such scenario might be true, but logic says that physical distancing, frequent hand washing, and wearing masks help keep businesses, offices, factories, and schools open and as such help keep the economy going so why would some people still refuse to wear masks and abide by physical distancing and other guidelines when it's the consensus amongst the majority of the doctors and experts that doing so actually does help save lives when combined with testing, tracking, and quarantining of those who are infected.

I hope that I am wrong, but if there are some amongst us who intentionally want to put the elderly and the vulnerable at risk (not to mention the health and essential workers that are going out of their way to help everyone) I believe that this should be looked at as a crime against humanity and that such people should be held accountable for their actions (or lack thereof).

IMO

Some people are just self-centered and only really care about themselves. Nothing is "real" until it effects them personally.

If you have empathy then you care about other people who are suffering, even if you have never met them.

I have no problem wearing a mask and following other safety guidelines.

Yeah, I get it freedumbs and all but some people just seem like they are going out of their way to be defiant douchebags, regardless of the consequences.

Was there an absurd fight when states passed seat belt or helmet regulations?

If people think wearing a mask is tyranny, or oppression, they have never faced any real hardships in their life.

Brad

bmugford said:

Some people are just self-centered and only really care about themselves. Nothing is "real" until it effects them personally.

If you have empathy thenyou care about other people who are suffering, even if you have never met them.

I have no problem wearing a mask if it helps others.

Yeah, I get it freedumbs and all but some people just seem like they are going out of their way to be defiant douchebags.

If people think wearing a mask is tyranny, or oppression, they have never faced any real hardships in their life.

Brad

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On the other side of the spectrum


Millions of people consider it rude to wear a mask.


Can't hear each other....

Can't see facial expressions...

Very unnatural.



We are experiencing a series of IQ tests being administered on the world and I know you are far too intelligent to not pass the test questions about masks.


These questions aren't challenging.

But they can be tricky questions if one has been exposed to and orients from the dictations of the propaganda machine.


Let's make humanity proud and show the AI our robust problem solving abilities and critical thinking skills!
(and that we aren't just some easily programmable robots)

Compassion said:

On the other side of the spectrum


Millions of people consider it rude to wear a mask.


Can't hear each other....

Can't see facial expressions...

Very unnatural.

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LOL. Rude to wear a mask.

What an absolutely ridiculous position to take when there is a pandemic spreading. 3K+ people died in the US yesterday alone. Many more to come...

This is largely to do with an army of idiots who just refuse to either acknowledge the virus is real or follow reasonable safety protocols.

Cool, next time you are in your hospital let your doctor know that. I am sure he will ignore the safety considerations so you can see his face.

Brad

bmugford said:

LOL. Rude to wear a mask.

Cool, next time you are in your hospital let your doctor know that. I am sure he will ignore the safety considerations so you can see his face.

Brad

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The vast majority of doctors know the truth about masks.



Rockefeller medicine didn't program med students to fail on this one.



Even Fauci the puppet spoke truth about masks earlier in the year before his script changed.
US Surgeon General too.

Breaking News: Masks actually work.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...slow-spread-of-coronavirus-kansas-study-finds

On average, the counties that required masks saw a 6% reduction in cases (calculated as a seven-day rolling average of new daily cases per capita). In contrast, the counties that opted out saw a 100% increase.

"You wear masks because the evidence suggests it not only protects you from acquiring the infection, but it protects others around you," says Jeffrey Shaman, an infectious disease expert at Columbia University.

He says it's been "incredibly frustrating" to see the use of masks become a partisan wedge issue instead of being seen by everyone as a sensible, public health strategy. "You do it to protect your loved ones, to protect your neighbors. You do it for the good of the country."

bmugford said:

Breaking News: Masks actually work.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...slow-spread-of-coronavirus-kansas-study-finds

On average, the counties that required masks saw a 6% reduction in cases (calculated as a seven-day rolling average of new daily cases per capita). In contrast, the counties that opted out saw a 100% increase.

Brad

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LOL NPR



All of us can pull from one of the SHILL media conglomerates (which includes NPR) to support the nefarious agenda being dumped on the world.

Compassion said:

LOL NPR

All of us can pull from one of the SHILL media conglomerates to support the nefarious agenda being dumped on the world.

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You can read the same report on any number of other venues you want. The data is the same.

Things are not real just because you believe them.

There is empirical data that shows masks actually work. That is on top of common sense that they physically block some material from spreading.

Doctors have been using masks for longer than you have been alive, but hey, some random dude on the internet knows better...

Brad

bmugford said:

You can read the same report on any number of other venues you want. The data is the same.

Things are not real just because you believe them.

There is empirical data that shows masks actually work. That is on top of common sense that they physically block material from spreading.

Doctors have been using masks for longer than you have been alive, but hey, some random dude on the internet knows better...

Brad

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And if you actually looked at data you'd know that data showed masks useless for protection from viral transmission.

Research is decades old.

Old news to a lot of us.


Here in California -

Please justify how 19,000 deaths (primarily elderly, sick and feeble) over an entire year out of a population of 40 million = any emergency and justifies the actions we are experiencing across the world?

bmugford said:

Some people are just self-centered and only really care about themselves. Nothing is "real" until it effects them personally.

If you have empathy then you care about other people who are suffering, even if you have never met them.

I have no problem wearing a mask and following other safety guidelines.

Yeah, I get it freedumbs and all but some people just seem like they are going out of their way to be defiant douchebags, regardless of the consequences.

Was there an absurd fight when states passed seat belt or helmet regulations?

If people think wearing a mask is tyranny, or oppression, they have never faced any real hardships in their life.

Brad

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Yes, it's unfortunate that some people look at wearing masks and other safety guidelines as oppression and tyranny, but it's the policies of live and let die that are being implemented during this Pandemic in different parts of the World that should be more of our concern.

We need to learn a lesson from this and make sure that those who want to kill rather than help are not put in the policy making positions.

Those who can't overcome their hate for others and are only guided by greed and those who put lust, promiscuity, and their own twisted ideas of love and happiness above all else all have blood on their hands and are responsible for making this Pandemic to drag on longer than it should.

* hate is not specific to any certain group, as people can hate because of their political, religious, or racial ideologies and beliefs.

* Greed does not depend on people's economical status as anyone can be greedy in one way or another, although sometimes it seems like that those with the most money have the highest level of greed.

* Lust, promiscuity, and twisted love and happiness are not specific to any group as anyone can fall into the wrong path or can choose to live a good and righteous life regardless of gender, gender preferences, or social status.

IMO

oldtimer said:

tyranny,

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This is what we are fighting.

Not a virus.