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    44.7%
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    22.2%
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ha, was reading the old posts. Last election it was Soros voting machines, when people thought Trump was going to lose. Those machines weren't even used. Then when Ron Paul was running:

"16,022 Ron Paul Votes Stolen by Voting Machines.. Watch Diebold Machine in ACTION!"

It's the same stuff. I guess Romney was cheating with Diebold voting machines. You guys have been using that excuse for awhile now. Different elections, different machines. Diebold, Soros, now Dominion. All of it bs.

"Go and watch some more CNN and Fox news."

Go watch more YouTube videos by guys too lazy to know what they're even talking about, that makes more sense right.

It's like the YouTube video posted by Gilsan earlier he read the title:

"16,022 Ron Paul Votes Stolen by Voting Machines.. Watch Diebold Machine in ACTION!"

and stopped. Problem was, it was the wrong title, video was talking about Bush/Gore.

YouTube videos, Ron Paul fan's trusted source of information, yay.
 
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For the record, I'm sure there are ALOT of patriotic Americans following this thread, but aren't going to stick their neck out to voice an opinion (not surprising), since there are retreads hiding in the shadows, and due to Trump's fear-mongering rhetoric echoed by his minions - fear of reprisal. I'm not even American, but I do believe in TRUTH and JUSTICE. Sources quoted, citation and opinion (as we all are entitled to) one must accept responsibility for - in word and deed. IMO, from what I've observed and experienced from the malcontent Far-right Trumpers in this tread (insults and attacks) is nothing short of mob-mentality who can't accept the facts, and like Trump himself, can't even admit defeat when the proof is overwhelming.
 
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seeing as Trumpers hunt/think in packs, not as individuals

Come on... people hunt/think in packs, not as individuals. And it's much easier to follow the herd on the left. The media, social networks, entertainment, politics.... it's all tailor made if you are on the left, or if you hate Trump. Rarely does such a person have their ideas challenged. The pack mentality is the path of least resistance.

On the other hand, if you support conservative, libertarian, Christian ideas or (God forbid) Trump, then your ideas are challenged daily. Every corporate media outlet, Facebook, entertainment, popular singers, TV shows... there is no getting around constant dismissal of your ideas.

It's pretty obvious who is thinking for themselves and who is following the herd.

Even in Redneckville, Nebraska, even in places packed with Trump supporters, they still can't escape entertainment, news and social media telling them they are wrong.

I am contrarian by nature. If Facebook, Twitter and the media were all in love with Trump, I would almost certainly be defending the other side. Because I despise black and white thinking. Even in my New York club days, I rebelled against the unspoken all-black dress code by wearing gray. When everyone agrees with something, I start to question it.

But go ahead and dismiss Trump supporters. I disagree with them on a lot of issues. But if you had 2 parallel Americas, one run by Trump supporters and the other run by the Democratic left, I'll choose the Trump America every time. Dystopian hellscapes are not to my liking.
 
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For the record, I'm sure there are ALOT of patriotic Americans following this thread, but aren't going to stick their neck out to voice an opinion (not surprising), since there are retreads hiding in the shadows, and due to Trump's fear-mongering rhetoric echoed by his minions - fear of reprisal. I'm not even American, but I do believe in TRUTH and JUSTICE. Sources quoted, citation and opinion (as we all are entitled to) one must accept responsibility for - in word and deed. IMO, from what I've observed and experienced from the malcontent Far-right Trumpers in this tread (insults and attacks) is nothing short of mob-mentality who can't accept the facts, and like Trump himself, can't even admit defeat when the proof is overwhelming.

I think many Republicans feel like the video I posted earlier and again below. Privately, they don't agree with the nonsense going on right now. But they are literally scared. Some it could be for their political lives, not wanting to upset Trumpers because they still want those votes. Then some literally scared of potential violence and other things. It's the atmosphere that comes along with Trump. Where somebody on his campaign felt comfortable enough to mention shooting somebody, to kidnapping plots from his supporters.

 
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Come on... people hunt/think in packs, not as individuals. And it's much easier to follow the herd on the left. The media, social networks, entertainment, politics.... it's all tailor made if you are on the left, or if you hate Trump. Rarely does such a person have their ideas challenged. The pack mentality is the path of least resistance.

On the other hand, if you support conservative, libertarian, Christian ideas or (God forbid) Trump, then your ideas are challenged daily. Every corporate media outlet, Facebook, entertainment, popular singers, TV shows... there is no getting around constant dismissal of your ideas.

It's pretty obvious who is thinking for themselves and who is following the herd.

Even in Redneckville, Nebraska, even in places packed with Trump supporters, they still can't escape entertainment, news and social media telling them they are wrong.

I am contrarian by nature. If Facebook, Twitter and the media were all in love with Trump, I would almost certainly be defending the other side. Because I despise black and white thinking. Even in my New York club days, I rebelled against the unspoken all-black dress code by wearing gray. When everyone agrees with something, I start to question it.

But go ahead and dismiss Trump supporters. I disagree with them on a lot of issues. But if you had 2 parallel Americas, one run by Trump supporters and the other run by the Democratic left, I'll choose the Trump America every time. Dystopian hellscapes are not to my liking.

Oh it is very easy to see who is following the herd. Trumpers.

You keep mentioning social media, but again, Trumpers are all over social media. You take a simple thing like not following guidelines and try to blow it up to something else.
 
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I'm sure there are ALOT of patriotic Americans following this thread, but aren't going to stick their neck out to voice an opinion (not surprising), since there are retreads hiding in the shadows, and due to Trump's fear-mongering rhetoric echoed by his minions - fear of reprisal. I'

What reprisal? I get called names constantly here. But that's not really reprisal. Reprisal is people doxing you, hacking you or refusing to do business with you. Without a doubt, vocally supporting Trump is calling out for the mob to attack you.
 
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Oh it is very easy to see who is following the herd. Trumpers.

That's not the herd I see. Maybe you live in Trump country, but virtually everyone I deal with in person is anti-Trump. And those few who aren't are hard to find, because most will not admit it in groups. They are intimidated into silence. Even I avoid talking about it. Business first.
 
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I am contrarian by nature. If Facebook, Twitter and the media were all in love with Trump, I would almost certainly be defending the other side. Because I despise black and white thinking. Even in my New York club days, I rebelled against the unspoken all-black dress code by wearing gray. When everyone agrees with something, I start to question it.

Is that actually true? Let me ask you a couple of questions, because I've noticed you stay out of the Covid conversations it seems like and some other things. I assumed it was because you didn't want to stand on your own from the other Trumpers.

1. Following Covid guidelines. Do you agree that we should? Do you think Trump should be mask shaming people?

2. What's happening now. Do you think there was widespread election fraud, enough to overturn a state/election? Do you think the voting machines were setup to switch out votes to Trump and a lot of the other nonsense, none of it verified?

I don't ever remember you doing what you just said, standing on your own against some of this nonsense. You usually just stayed silent.
 
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I think many Republicans feel like the video I posted earlier and again below.

I feel threatened by the big, gesticulating bald man.:xf.laugh:
 
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What reprisal? I get called names constantly here. But that's not really reprisal. Reprisal is people doxing you, hacking you or refusing to do business with you. Without a doubt, vocally supporting Trump is calling out for the mob to attack you.

Calling names is one thing, reprisal another. The hacking attempts on my websites have slowed down considerably post-election. Prior to the election, my ability to post in here was made very difficult, IP was blocked numerous times and I've since resorted to proxy servers. I'll let the situation calm down before I even attempt to sell a domain on this forum.
 
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Democrat incumbent in NY lost by 30K votes. A democrat Judge personally reviewed rejected ballots and found 30,012 "new votes". Then this happened.

What am I missing? The graphic you posted has 12 and 55 votes. You posted - Democrat incumbent in NY lost by 30K votes. A democrat Judge personally reviewed rejected ballots and found 30,012 "new votes".

And all votes should be counted right?
 
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1. Following Covid guidelines. Do you agree that we should? Do you think Trump should be mask shaming people?

The whole discussion of Covid is tedious. Very few of the people arguing have even an iota of understanding of the science. I don't get into such discussions, the blind arguing with the blind. So far as mask-shaming, I am unaware of anyone being shamed for wearing a mask. Just the opposite. How has Trump mask shamed? News to me.

2. What's happening now. Do you think there was widespread election fraud, enough to overturn a state/election? Do you think the voting machines were setup to switch out votes to Trump and a lot of the other nonsense, none of it verified?

I don't know. I do find it very hard to believe that a person who attracted nobody to his rallies, has never been a popular candidate, and who actually lost some of the minority vote to Trump, could have won. I don't have time to follow every detail, but on the face of it, it looks very suspect. And once people no longer trust the election process, watch out. But I think the whole thing is a sham every four years. People think they are getting a choice, or have a say in things. Nothing substantially will change, no matter who wins.
 
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Sounds like Mr Zucker's not having a very good day.
JAMES O'KEEFE LIVE STREAMS CNN PRESIDENT JEFF ZUCKER'S 9AM CALL
 
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I don't know. I do find it very hard to believe that a person who attracted nobody to his rallies, has never been a popular candidate, and who actually lost some of the minority vote to Trump, could have won. I don't have time to follow every detail, but on the face of it, it looks very suspect. And once people no longer trust the election process, watch out. But I think the whole thing is a sham every four years. People think they are getting a choice, or have a say in things. Nothing substantially will change, no matter who wins.

You find it hard Biden was following recommendations on rallies from experts? Or elections are not decided by crowd size but by actual voting?

Sanders had big crowds.

Ron Paul had big crowds.

How did that work out.
 
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Calling names is one thing, reprisal another. The hacking attempts on my websites have slowed down considerably post-election. Prior to the election, my ability to post in here was made very difficult, IP was blocked numerous times and I've since resorted to proxy servers. I'll let the situation calm down before I even attempt to sell a domain on this forum.

...and my views are not even radical, just different to those who would otherwise have the truth and opposing opinions silenced.
 
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The whole discussion of Covid is tedious. Very few of the people arguing have even an iota of understanding of the science. I don't get into such discussions, the blind arguing with the blind. So far as mask-shaming, I am unaware of anyone being shamed for wearing a mask. Just the opposite. How has Trump mask shamed? News to me..

So you've been reading in this thread and Trump mask shaming people is news to you? I find that hard to believe since we've posted it many times. From Trump mask shaming Biden when he first started wearing a mask to literally a few days before the election, Trump mask shaming Laura Ingraham, asking if she was trying to be politically correct. So, I'm not really buying the you standing on your own part, since you haven't demonstrated that here.

Right on video:

Mask shaming Laura Ingraham.


Mask shaming Biden.

 
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The hacking attempts on my websites have slowed down considerably post-election.

Do you have political websites? I would imagine they get hacked regularly on both sides.

I'll let the situation calm down before I even attempt to sell a domain on this forum.

Never seems worth the effort anyway. I have a couple names that got 4 figure offers in the past that I might let expire. The trouble of posting here, dealing with emails and transfers, etc., is not really worth the extra $100 I might pick up at best. I know I spend at least that much time in this thread, but I get the satisfaction of venting!
 
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I don't know. I do find it very hard to believe that a person who attracted nobody to his rallies, has never been a popular candidate, and who actually lost some of the minority vote to Trump, could have won. I don't have time to follow every detail, but on the face of it, it looks very suspect. And once people no longer trust the election process, watch out. But I think the whole thing is a sham every four years. People think they are getting a choice, or have a say in things. Nothing substantially will change, no matter who wins.

Crowd size means nothing. People who didn't go into crowds during rallies were practicing better judgement.
 
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What am I missing? The graphic you posted has 12 and 55 votes. You posted - Democrat incumbent in NY lost by 30K votes. A democrat Judge personally reviewed rejected ballots and found 30,012 "new votes".

And all votes should be counted right?

Legal votes should be counted. How long do you think it would take one person to verify 30,000 signatures.
 
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Do you have political websites? I would imagine they get hacked regularly on both sides.

Environmental-friendly sites, no political views.

Never seems worth the effort anyway. I have a couple names that got 4 figure offers in the past that I might let expire. The trouble of posting here, dealing with emails and transfers, etc., is not really worth the extra $100 I might pick up at best. I know I spend at least that much time in this thread, but I get the satisfaction of venting!

I had a hassle selling my last domain here, took about a year to finally get paid. It was not the fault of the buyer on NP, but through Escrow US funds transfer.
 
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So you've been reading in this thread and Trump mask shaming people is news to you? I find that hard to believe since we've posted it many times. From Trump mask shaming Biden when he first started wearing a mask to literally a few days before the election, Trump mask shaming Laura Ingraham, asking if she was trying to be politically correct. So, I'm not really buying the you standing on your own part, since you haven't demonstrated that here.

Right on video:

Mask shaming Laura Ingraham.


Mask shaming Biden.


I could only view the video of Laura Ingram. I wouldn't call that shaming. Did she say she felt shamed? I don't usually click on links of the "terrible thing Trump said today" because they are almost always misrepresented or taken out of context. I have heard people talk about Trump's mask shaming, but the only real shaming I have actually seen is of people not wearing masks.

I just got the Biden vid. Obviously, your definition of shaming is broader than mine. He made fun of a political opponent. Most of Trump's supporters were wearing masks behind him. Not one removed the mask while he made fun of Joe. Apparently they didn't feel shamed.
 
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Crowd size means nothing. People who didn't go into crowds during rallies were practicing better judgement.

So they say...
 
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I could only view the video of Laura Ingram. I wouldn't call that shaming. Did she say she felt shamed? I don't usually click on links of the "terrible thing Trump said today" because they are almost always misrepresented or taken out of context. I have heard people talk about Trump's mask shaming, but the only real shaming I have actually seen is of people not wearing masks
Not having an honest conversation here are we. Literally on video. Besides the tweets, interviews etc.
 
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