Dynadot
Spaceship Spaceship
Watch

Archangel

randypendleton.comTop Member
Impact
1,769
This thread was created to bring a local new story to light, which can be viewed below:

JACKSON, Ohio (AP) — An Ohio school district decided Tuesday night to keep a portrait of Jesus hanging in the school where it's been 65 years, denying a federal lawsuit's claim the portrait's display unconstitutionally promotes religion in a public school.

The Jackson City Schools board offered a constitutional justification of its own in voting 4-0 to keep the portrait up in its middle school, saying it must protect students' free speech rights. The vote drew cheers and applause from the dozens of people gathered in the elementary school gymnasium.

Read all of it here: http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-school-b...xzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0A1Rlc3RfQUZD;_ylv=3

I posted his here @ NP to see what ppl had to say on the issue. As it turns out, this sparked many debates. I've considered closing this thread but after multiple suggestions, I decided to keep it open. Feel free to join in the topics but per forum rules, please refrain from obscene, threatening, rude, or insulting posts.
 
Last edited:
1
•••
The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Probably pretty difficult to help someone as f*cked up as that, I don't know. But if it we knew it was possible to change them, we would. And I also said "keep him from hurting people." Duh.

"Saying there is no free will is like saying there is no air."
What a great argument.
Come back ahen you have a good argument that we have free will.


That’s because Norway’s prisons operate on a very different framework than those in most countries, including the U.S.

There are no life sentences in Norway. The longest sentence a person can receive is 21 years, although that can be extended by five year increments indefinitely if authorities decide that the prisoner has not been rehabilitated.

That’s the sentence that Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people in a mass shooting and bombing received. Most Norwegians were satisfied with the sentence because of an overarching belief that the prison systems goal isn’t punishment, but rather rehabilitation.

Are Hoidal, who heads Halden prison, told the Guardian:

Everyone who is imprisoned inside Norwegian prisons will be released — maybe not Breivik, but everyone else will go back to society. We look at what kind of neighbor you want to have when they come out. If you stay in a box for a few years, then you are not a good person when you come out. If you treat them hard… well, we don’t think that treating them hard will make them a better man. We don’t think about revenge in the Norwegian prison system. We have much more focus on rehabilitation. It is a long time since we had fights between inmates. It is this building that makes softer people.

The emphasis on making prisoners “softer” through prisons that offer many of the amenities of real life — short, of course, of freedom — is costly.

https://thinkprogress.org/the-u-s-has-a-lot-to-learn-from-norways-prisons-681fd194b6e1/

I’m using my free will right now to tell you that I think you’re an ignorant idiot. I also use my free will every day to express myself any way I choose because it’s my right and because I can. I get to choose bc it’s my free will. You being an ignorant idiot is your free will as well. I also choose to no longer participate in any dissertation with you bc my free will lets me deem you as irrelevant.
 
0
•••
I remember when Randy created a thread separate from this but on topic. I renamed it to the current heading and mods combined the threads.

RIP @Archangel
 
4
•••
There's no free will, so nobody should face any punishment from any god.
Everything in the world is the product of chain reactions that you can't control. Even if you mull over a decision for a very long time, that doesn't mean you're in control. Your conscious contemplation is just a part of the chain reaction.
If you're contemplating something like..whether or not you should marry someone..then a bunch of thoughts will arise in your head (you can't control which ones do), and the logical and emotional parts of you will determine which chains of thought you follow (you can't choose how logical or emotional you are, or how your logic and emotions function). In the moment, you get to experience the decision-making process, but no god can hold you responsible for the result.

If someone has uncontrollable violent thoughts and has a strong urge to beat their spouse or something..but they always resist the urge..that doesn't mean they deserve a reward, and the guy who beats his wife deserves punishment. There just happens to be a line in the mind of the first person that they don't cross.Either it's been there since they were born, or at some point in their life they learned why they shouldn't cross it. But you can't control what you're born with or what you learn. If someone noticed that you were a violent child and tried to help you be less violent, but it didn't work and you never "grew out of it" as an adult, how is it your fault that it didn't work.. They tried to help you, but it didn't click in your brain. It doesn't mean you deserve punishment.
If the guy who beats his wife never learned how to be better, the only thing that makes sense is to keep him from hurting people and help him improve. Some people do horrific things, and it's probably nearly impossible to help them, but maybe in the future.

Every human no matter how they were raised can differentiate between right and wrong. A little child is not taught that stealing is wrong, they just know it, it's human nature. But people still steal and do other stuff that is wrong and they feel ashamed so they start justifying what they did and they start claiming that it's not wrong, making up excuses. All humans have free will and adults are responsible for their actions.

This line you talk about is in every person's mind, it's just that some people don't care. We can control our actions, no one is forcing us to do something,
 
1
•••
Pleases welcome @offthehandle to the thread. He's pretty ignorant when it comes to Religion, so maybe he can get some help here. Will post some of his stuff.

His Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his religious ruling on IS&J:

“…one must go on jihad at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them…One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide... Christians and Jews must pay...on offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his beard and hits on the protuberant bone beneath his ear ... they are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells... their houses may not be higher than a Muslim’s, no matter how low that is. The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride a donkey only if the saddle is of wood. He may not walk on the good part of the road. They have to wear an identifying patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the baths... dhimmis must hold their tongue...” (Kitab Al-Wagiz FI Figh Madhad Al-Imam Al-Safi’i pp. 186, 190, 199-203) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad)


http://islamicsupremacism.com/A_Classic_Jurist_From_Each_of_the_5_Schools.html

Yet he made this ruling on Koran 9:29 and others in his most important work Bidayat al-Mujtahid wa-Nihayat al-Muqtasid. His interest in Greek philosophy did not conflict with his opinion of IS&J:


"According to the majority of scholars, the compulsory nature of the jihad is founded on sura 2:216: ‘Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.‘... Scholars agree that all polytheists should be fought; This founded on sura 8:39: “Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely"… the Muslims are agreed that the aim of warfare against the People of the Book... is twofold: either conversion to Islam, or payment of poll-tax (jizya). This is based on (9:29)... There is, however, controversy with regard to polytheists who are not People of the Book: is it allowed to accept poll-tax from them or not?” More Averroes

• The Muslim Brotherhood (MB) was founded by Hassan al-Banna in 1928 in opposition to Ataturk’s abolition of the Ottoman Empire (Caliphate) in 1924 with secular Turkey in the aftermath of World War I. The Brotherhood’s stated goal is to instill the Qur’an and Sunnah as the:


“sole reference point for ... ordering the life of the Muslim family, individual, community ... and state”.


• Concerning MB connections to terrorist groups, in testimony before the Senate Banking Committee in 2003, Richard Clarke, chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council under Clinton and Bush 2, said:


"...the issue of terrorist financing in the United States is a fundamental example of the shared infrastructure levered by Hamas, Islamic Jihad and al Qaeda, all of which enjoy a significant degree of cooperation... within our borders. The common link here is... all these organizations are descendants of the membership and ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood."

http://islamicsupremacism.com/Muslim_Brotherhood.html
 
Last edited:
1
•••
@offthehandle latest offering, never talks about other people committing crime for some reason:

Naive to accept the excuses of its meaning.
The Religion of peace. Yeah, God is great.

Where has the term Allahu Akbar come from?
Allahu Akbar was allegedly first used as a battle cry during the Battle of Badr by the Prophet Muhammad.

Battle of Badr, (624 ce), in Islamic history, first military victory of the Prophet Muhammad. ... The Prophet Muhammad was a skilled war leader as well as the founder of a faith, and at Badr his religion was spread by the sword. The Battle of Badr was a key moment in Muhammad's armed struggle

against Mecca's pagan tribes.

The origin is at war. It isnt defined correctly as you state that is some watered down liberal b.s. thing.

The origin is a Battle cry for non believers. Hence its usage by radicals and extremists.


https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-bo...p-orlando-killer-shouted-allah-hu-akbar-as-he

https://www.theweek.co.uk/98878/swiss-muslim-fined-178-for-saying-allahu-akbar

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/man-shouts-allahu-akbar-as-he-drives-into-french-crowd-cw7tgmk5p

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-manchester-victoria-stabbing-suspect-13798609e


https://www.news18.com/news/world/m...e-at-strasbourg-christmas-market-1971803.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/17/woman-shouting-allahu-akbar-injures-two-blade-france/

https://www.foxnews.com/world/woman...ks-2-with-box-cutter-at-supermarket-in-france

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4602832,00.html

https://grainoftruth.ca/muhammads-g...on-with-fireworks-while-yelling-allahu-akbar/


https://www.timesofisrael.com/dutch-police-shoot-syrian-man-waving-ax-shouting-allahu-akbar/
 
0
•••
Just a nudge as a reminder to members who apparently can't be bothered to follow the guidelines that others are constrained to follow, that THIS is the thread where you are supposed to place your various religious diatribes and discussions.

I know, asking members to act like adults is asking a whole lot, but since the moderators apparently can't be bothered to, actually, moderate, it is up to you. Are you people adults or not?
 
2
•••
How come you never see Satan and Santa in the same room ? Think about it... :cautious:
 
0
•••
How come you never see Satan and Santa in the same room ? Think about it... :cautious:
No need to think about it, because... it's such a dumb question!
 
2
•••
I have churchlike dot com
 
0
•••
Revelation NOW: Episode 1 "Revelation's Coming Rapture" with Doug Batchelor


 
2
•••
Good debate about what day is the weekly Sabbath should be observed; Saturday or Sunday??
 
Last edited:
1
•••
I've always wondered from a biblical point of view God is supposedly omniscient and omnipresent, so how can anything else exist? The devil included.

From a physics point of view, no two pieces of matter can occupy the same space at the same time. So how can both exist simultaneously?
 
1
•••
I've always wondered from a biblical point of view God is supposedly omniscient and omnipresent, so how can anything else exist? The devil included.

From a physics point of view, no two pieces of matter can occupy the same space at the same time. So how can both exist simultaneously?

...because they are in 'Spirit' form, not matter.

I would suggest the school remove the portrait of Jesus (who knows what he looked like in reality) and replace it with a cross.
 
2
•••
California Pastor Temporarily Turns His Chapel Into a Strip Club to Be Deemed 'Essential'


Good sermon on freedom, the USA's Christian founding in context of current Gov tyranny
 
Last edited:
2
•••
California Pastor Temporarily Turns His Chapel Into a Strip Club to Be Deemed 'Essential'


Good sermon on freedom, the USA's Christian founding in context of current Gov tyranny
PowerlessForcefulBrownbutterfly-size_restricted.gif
 
Last edited:
1
•••
I've always wondered from a biblical point of view God is supposedly omniscient and omnipresent, so how can anything else exist? The devil included.

From a physics point of view, no two pieces of matter can occupy the same space at the same time. So how can both exist simultaneously?
God said if sin is present then He isnt there. Thus the entity, the devil, for what doesnt exist but wants to.
 
0
•••
If the Last Supper happened in 2020...
8412d5cc5e4b1976c5dd6928fd179e23.jpg
 
Last edited:
2
•••
The Bible says that if you want to go to Heaven, you must believe that Jesus bled and died to pay for your sins. Do you believe that ? (Y or N responses please )
 
1
•••
The Bible says that if you want to go to Heaven, you must believe that Jesus bled and died to pay for your sins. Do you believe that ? (Y or N responses please )

Y - I believe the Bible says that.
Y - I believe Jesus paid the ultimate price for our sins.
N - That is not the Only criteria required to enter.
 
1
•••
The Bible says that if you want to go to Heaven, you must believe that Jesus bled and died to pay for your sins. Do you believe that ? (Y or N responses please )

Y.
 
0
•••
Want to make the world a better place?

No matter what your faith, Mercy Ships provide life changing medical care to people, especially children who suffer greatly for lack of medical care.

https://www.mercyships.org/

upload_2021-10-5_14-37-47.png
 
1
•••
Curious about what the Bible says about current times?

upload_2021-10-6_9-1-21.png
 
1
•••
Ministry Watch - Empowering Donors to Christian Ministries
https://ministrywatch.com/

Ministry watch reports on how the people / religious use the money they are given as well as legal matters, good and bad.
 
Last edited:
1
•••
Scientific evidence for the flood that destroyed the world as written in Genesis



Shorter version
 
0
•••
Good debate about what day is the weekly Sabbath should be observed; Saturday or Sunday??

You really only need a few versus to prove the Sabbath is still the last day of the week.

The purpose of the Sabbath​

In order for every love relationship to grow, there must be time set aside to develop that bond. The Sabbath was a time set by God that man may stop his daily work and commune with Him. The Sabbath was given more as a gift than a command. It is like a married couple set special time for a date night so that they may draw closer to each other.

1 So the creation of the heavens and the earth and everything in them was completed. 2 On the seventh day God had finished his work of creation, so he rested a from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because it was the day when he rested from all his work of creation.


In order for every relationship to grow, there must be time set aside to develop that bond. The Sabbath was a time set by God that man may stop his daily work and commune with Him.
  • Mark 2:27 says the Sabbath was made for man. The Sabbath was made at creation. Therefore God created the Sabbath for man. There were no Jews at the time. God would not create the Sabbath just for Himself. God is love and He made the Sabbath as a gift for others.

The fourth Commandment starts with "Remember".

8 “Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the LORD your God. On that day no one in your household may do any work. This includes you, your sons and daughters, your male and female servants, your livestock, and any foreigners living among you. For in six days the LORD made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them; but on the seventh day he rested. That is why the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.

Daniel prophesies the Anti-Christ will change law and times of sacred days.

25 He will defy the Most High and oppress the holy people of the Most High. He will try to change their sacred festivals and laws, and they will be placed under his control for a time, times, and half a time.

Does it matter if you observer the Sabbath on the Last for First day of the week? Yes.

The Sabbath isn't just a sacred day, it is a day set aside from the beginning of the world by God for man to take rest and spend time in God's presence. God tells us to "Remember" this day, in His law, the 10 commandments.

The anti-christ has fooled the church and convinced man he has the power to change God's laws. In the end, the Government will try to force you to worship on the first day of the week.

That is the sign of the beast, not a number or badge. The devil wants to be God and if you refuse to worship his counterfeit religion, you will be prevented from buying or selling.

https://www.sabbathtruth.com/free-r...ost/id/26314/t/think-to-change-times-and-laws
 
Last edited:
0
•••
Back