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Here is a great example, issued from a generic email address, and in usual GoDaddy etiquette, lacking even the courtesy of a contact name or a signature for such an important landmark event. This is how they notify Epik – two hours after the election was called for Joe Biden – that they will be terminating fast transfer inclusions over Afternic for any of Epik’s current and future registrar customers. Can you say anticompetitive behavior from a group in massive need of antitrust oversight as a monopoly? Epik can, and it is added to a rapidly growing list of unthinkable market behaviors that will be accounted for.


https://www.epik.com/blog/afternic
 
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As I said below, private company in my usage = private sector. It has nothing to do with the financial structure of the company.

A company traded on the stock exchange reserves the same rights to decide who they want to do business with.

Brad

By private I am referring to the fact that the company is not related to a government, not the financial structure of the company.

Even if a company is publicly traded, it is still private sector and can choose who it does business with, except under certain scenarios like regulated utilities.

Brad
 
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Just listed one domain and I received the email from epik.com regarding enabling fast transfer.
 
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Just a question. No accusations here.
Is epik somehow funding or advertising any of your blogs?

Because he's reached out to many pubicly here on namepros. At some point he even said @Paul Nicks was welcome to come work for epik when GD gets in trouble (or something like that). He also invited @Michael to come and collab on his 19 chapter book, before ranting him, and so on.

So,
Is epik your partner?
No offense, I dont see Rob missing on such an opportunity.

No Epik is not an advertiser on TLDInvestors.com or TheDomains.com. Back in 2019 I actually returned money (don't think many are doing that one) after a campaign just started but I did not like the stuff that was coming out about a conspiracy.

https://tldinvestors.com/2019/03/daily-domain-picks-3-20-19.html
 
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I'm fairly new to all of these registrars and am wondering if anyone has the bottom line on this. Should I avoid Epik? Should I avoid GoDaddy?

What are you looking for from a registrar? What matters most?

Price
Payment options
Distribution agreements
Parking landers
Tools like whois lookups, ease of manangement, etc...
 
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ticker symbol GDDY :xf.cool:

I am not really sure why people can't seem to understand the concept.

A company in the private sector can do business with who they please. The fact that you can buy shares in that company is irrelevant to that.

There are very few exceptions to this, like some regulated utilities or monopolies.

For instance if there is only (1) electric company, they are generally not allowed to deny business when no other options exist.

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I am not really sure why people can't seem to understand the concept.

A company in the private sector can do business with who they please. The fact that you can buy shares in that company is irrelevant to that.

There are very few exceptions to this, like some regulated utilities or monopolies.

For instance if there is only (1) electric company, they are generally not allowed to deny business when no other options exist.

Brad

Obligation to shareholders and the bottom line;
they not really “Private” must report every 3 mo

There’s less privacy when u r public company;
Dont think you could have worded better? dont see any Private when u r Public company
 
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Obligation to shareholders and the bottom line;
they not really “Private” must report every 3 mo

There’s less privacy when you public company

It is irrelevant though to my point. They are private sector companies.

Epik might not be publicly traded, but it is private sector company just like GoDaddy or Paypal is.

Epik can choose to not do business with a company the same way GoDaddy or Paypal can.

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I am not really sure why people can't seem to understand the concept.

A company in the private sector can do business with who they please. The fact that you can buy shares in that company is irrelevant to that.

There are very few exceptions to this, like some regulated utilities or monopolies.

For instance if there is only (1) electric company, they are generally not allowed to deny business when no other options exist.

Brad
They are confused bewteen Public Sector company and Publicly traded company.

Companies with a significant holding by the state are called Public sector enterprise in some countries.

Listed companies are still private enterprises with a lot of share holders,


Anyway, I am still getting Optin mails from epik for Afternic

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Also this is not a Big deal. The buyer doesn't know what a fast transfer is. It is just simple a way to make transaction smoother for Afternic. A buyer truely wants a domain, they will get the Auth code and get the name transferred. It is not like they will look for an alternative simply because they are asked to enter an Auth Code to transfer a domain name
 
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It is irrelevant though to my point. They are private sector companies.

Epik might not be publicly traded, but it is private sector company just like GoDaddy or Paypal is.

Epik can choose to not do business with a company the same way GoDaddy or Paypal can.

Brad

Ahh “private sector” Public company.
Wow! Oxymoron aside; i get the point;

Never heard term “Private Sector” “Public”

Using Yahoo finance;
Sector: Technology
Industry: Software —Infrastructure

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Never heard”Private Sector” Public company
learn something new everyday.
 
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They are confused bewteen Public Sector company and Publicly traded company.

Anyway, I am still getting Optin mails from epik for Afternic

Also this is not a Big deal. The buyer doesn't know what a fast transfer is. It is just simple a way to make transaction smoother for Afternic. A buyer truely wants a domain, they will get the Auth code and get the name transferred. It is not like they will look for an alternative simply because they are asked to enter an Auth Code to transfer a domain name

You're still getting opt-in emails because Fast Transfer hasn't been canceled yet. It will be terminated Jan 15, as has been said many times in this thread.

Re: not a big deal -- those who understand the significantly expanded reach of the Fast Transfer Network understand that it is a very big deal.

It is also a big deal in the sense that once again, Epik has shown itself to be incapable of acting with integrity and professionalism, instead resorting to insults, attacks, hate, and politics.

I have appreciated Epik's innovation and attention to the domaining community and hope they can resolve this and other incidents in a professional way.
 
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You're still getting opt-in emails because Fast Transfer hasn't been canceled yet. It will be terminated Jan 15, as has been said many times in this thread.

Re: not a big deal -- those who understand the significantly increased reach of the Fast Transfer Network understand that it is a very big deal

Long time until January 15; Easy.

Let’s get past 2020 in one piece
 
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You're still getting opt-in emails because Fast Transfer hasn't been canceled yet. It will be terminated Jan 15, as has been said many times in this thread.

Re: not a big deal -- those who understand the significantly increased reach of the Fast Transfer Network understand that it is a very big deal
Are you saying that if a domain is not eligible for fast transfer, it will not show up in the reg path of Afternic network?
 
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People who think deplatforming isn't important or illegal because private companies are doing it don't understand the implications for the USA.

1) A small group of people have an over important say about what is and isn't proper speech.

2) Companies coordinating with each other have the power to harm people with minority views.

3) Tortious interference
 
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People who think deplatforming isn't important or illegal because private companies are doing it don't understand the implications for the USA.

1) A small group of people have an over important say about what is and isn't proper speech.

2) Companies coordinating with each other have the power to harm people with minority views.

3) Tortious interference

How much market share does GD have?
asking for a friend
 
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People who think deplatforming isn't important or illegal because private companies are doing it don't understand the implications for the USA.

1) A small group of people have an over important say about what is and isn't proper speech.

2) Companies coordinating with each other have the power to harm people with minority views.

3) Tortious interference

A lot of that might be true, but at the same time you don't have unlimited rights to do and say whatever you want and be free of consequences for those actions.

Whatever the actual reason GoDaddy cut Epik, Epik has been their "partner" and launching attacks on them for quite a while. They inserted them into the Paypal issue recently, which had nothing to do with GoDaddy while doxxing many employees information in a completely irrelevant manner.

At some point you might just not want to be associated with the drama. Epik has been involved in drama and controversy with so many other companies. At some point the issue is not everyone else.

Epik attacks others, often while spreading baseless or irrelevant conspiracy theories then plays the victim card. That is kind of their thing at this point.

Maybe when the Paypal issue came up, if they tried to handle it in a more professional manner without going on unhinged rants, the outcome would have been better. Who knows.

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Are you saying that if a domain is not eligible for fast transfer, it will not show up in the reg path of Afternic network?

Just spoke to an Afternic rep, who confirmed the Fast Transfer Network gets about 35% more visibility than the standard network
 
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Another reason to run away from GoDaddy and their subsidiaries, I will probably finish moving everything by end of the year (y)
 
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How much market share does GD have?
asking for a friend

They have about has much market share as the next 10 registrars combined.

But don't confuse size with a monopoly. The same services they offer from domains to hosting are available elsewhere, normally even for lower prices.

The actual monopoly is a company like Verisign, who is the exclusive provider of .COM.
You have no alternative if you want a .COM.

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No Epik is not an advertiser on TLDInvestors.com or TheDomains.com. Back in 2019 I actually returned money (don't think many are doing that one) after a campaign just started but I did not like the stuff that was coming out about a conspiracy.

https://tldinvestors.com/2019/03/daily-domain-picks-3-20-19.html

I spoke with @Rob Monster on the phone as well. He is very cordial. That's why it is hard to understand the positions taken by Epik. At the same time I dealt with other key personnel of Epik who are far less cordial and, in fact, insulting and unprofessional. There is no coordinated message from the company. I hope they can work out their public image and policy.
 
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Maybe when the Paypal issue came up, if they tried to handle it in a more professional manner without going on unhinged rants, the outcome would have been better. Who knows.

@Michael 's (Namebio) issue with PayPal comes to mind. He got things resolved. He was in a bad spot but turned tings around by staying calm and focused on a resolution.
 
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