The USA Political Thread

GILSAN said:

HISTORIC PRESIDENT! The Number of Democrats at President Trump’s Last 6 Rallies Ought to Scare the Hell Out of the American Left!
The latest Trump rally numbers are absolutely sensational.

From 20% to 54% of attendees at the latest Trump rallies are NOT Republican.

President Trump speaks at an airport rally in Latrobe, PA, September 3, 2020, photo by Kristinn Taylor

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I'll tell ya what better scare them... the amount of Trump voters that will be at the polls Tuesday.... We are coming and we are fucking pissed

.X. said:

England to enter second lockdown in days, says Boris Johnson

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/europe/uk-lockdown-coronavirus-europe-intl/index.html

very fitting and obvious to have a huge plandemic spike 3 days before the election... i figure by Monday the US numbers will be off the charts... I knew this shit was going to happen...

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Scientists knew as well. They said what was going to happen, people didn't listen. So here come the lockdowns again. This didn't need to happen.

I took a look at Germany. I remember those anti-mask demonstrations:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

2 months ago, 470 cases on 1 day

Now, days with almost 20,000

470 ----------------> 20,000

When it spikes, things close down. Assholes all over the world messing things up.

Biden campaign cancels Texas event after Trump supporters surround bus on interstate

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/politics/biden-bus-2020-campaign-texas-trump-supporters/index.html

The Canadian constitution got finalized into a single act in 1982, and while The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms sounds proper there is a notwithstanding clause at the end giving the federal government and provinces the right to effectively take away your rights at anytime they choose. It is simply nothing like the American Constitution and offers not real protection, it is effectively always subject to change.

Human Rights Tribunals are extra judicial PC police and social justice weapons against society today. There is simply too much to describe and list and not for American politics.

Jordan Peterson on the Ontario Human Rights Commission

(full debate - youtube.com/watch?v=JDvj6DQd93o )

How Canadian charter of rights got it BACKWARDS - Jordan Peterson

I don't know which utopia Cannuck gets his views from about freedom of speech in Canada but it doesn't reflect today's reality. You can be brought in front a Tribunal just because someone is offended by your speech and more importantly truth is no defense. Extra judicial nightmare akin to Ministry of Truth in 1984.

JB Lions said:

Scientists knew as well. They said what was going to happen, people didn't listen. So here come the lockdowns again. This didn't need to happen.

I took a look at Germany. I remember those anti-mask demonstrations:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

2 months ago, 470 cases on 1 day

Now, days with almost 20,000

470 ----------------> 20,000

When it spikes, things close down. Assholes all over the world messing things up.

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Plandemic is our least concern right now in Texas.... people here are mad as fuck... we don't want Joe Biden ...Kamala Harris .... or any Democrats in our state anymore... we want every one of them out of our state

sonatime said:

The Canadian constitution got finalized into a single act in 1982, and while The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms sounds proper there is a notwithstanding clause at the end giving the federal government and provinces the right to effectively take away your rights at anytime they choose. It is simply nothing like the American Constitution and offers not real protection, it is effectively always subject to change.

I don't know which utopia Cannuck gets his views from about freedom of speech in Canada but it doesn't reflect today's reality. You can be brought in front a Tribunal just because someone is offended by your speech and more importantly truth is no defense. Extra judicial nightmare akin to Ministry of Truth in 1984.

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You may be too young to know or have experienced pre-Constitution, it seems to me your views are pretty millenial, lol. Yes the Justice System is a nightmare. Every country has its merits and downfalls. I didn't say Canada was a Utopia, just that we are fortunate to have the Right to freedom of speech, that are not to be taken liberally. That may give people the right to say or meme wrong things as well. That is where Critical Thinking is necessary.

I see you follow Jordon Peterson ALOT. Can you quote someone else for a change, lol.

Just as the Nazi Party used prominenet US statisticians works to support their theory of Eugenics...eliminate the blind spots and you will see the light:

http://nautil.us/issue/92/frontiers/how-eugenics-shaped-statistics

The bus hit that white truck in the front.... the black truck behind the bus almost wrecked out.. but they stopped the Biden bus and wanted to fuck up every mother fucker in it.

Democrats are not welcome in Texas ...Commie Mother Fuckers!!!

Texas Republicans Ask State's Supreme Court To Throw Out 100,000 Cast Ballots
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/texa...-throw-out-100000-cast-ballots-213348687.html

.X. said:

Plandemic is our least concern right now in Texas.... people here are mad as fuck... we don't want Joe Biden ...Kamala Harris .... or any Democrats in our state anymore... we want every one of them out of our state

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Yeah, you can keep on being ignorant if you want, you guys can keep on posting anti following guidelines stuff from sources that aren't legit, it doesn't change what's happening in the real world. It doesn't seem like you guys can grasp stuff.

But the reality is lockdowns are coming back because this virus is spiking all over the place. I haven't checked it in awhile but a few examples.

Look at these spikes

Remember Italy being in the news. The high was around 5,000 cases a day in March/April. Do you know what it is now? 30,000+ cases and growing. Deaths starting to go up.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

France at the peak was about, 3,000 a day, now 40,000 a day
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/

Germany at the worst was 6,000 or so, now almost 20,000
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

Uk in August about 1,000 a day, now 20,000 a day, that 20x in just 2 months
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Look around other coutries - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Much, much worse than the first time we locked down.

Online, I'm already seeing runs on groceries again.

So we're going to go thru it all over again, this time it's going to be worse.

Unemployment rate will start going in the bad direction again.

Hospitals will start filling up again.

etc.

And why? Because people couldn't hold it down until we got a vaccine.

Everybody in this thread that posted against guideline are part of the problem.

This mask shaming idiot we have as President who said we're "turning the corner" and dumb son who said deaths are low or whatever, biggest problem here in the U.S.

The Trumpers in this country and the other idiots all over the world are about to make it worse for everybody.

JB Lions said:

Yeah, you can keep on being ignorant if you want, you guys can keep on posting anti following guidelines stuff from sources that aren't legit, it doesn't change what's happening in the real world. It doesn't seem like you guys can grasp stuff.

But the reality is lockdowns are coming back because this virus is spiking all over the place. I haven't checked it in awhile but a few examples.

Look at these spikes

Remember Italy being in the news. The high was around 5,000 cases a day in March/April. Do you know what it is now? 30,000+ cases and growing. Deaths starting to go up.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

France at the peak was about, 3,000 a day, now 40,000 a day
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/

Germany at the worst was 6,000 or so, now almost 20,000
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

Uk in August about 1,000 a day, now 20,000 a day, that 20x in just 2 months
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

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we don't care... we are in a battle and until that battle is over we wont comply with any guidelines .... we don't care if we get it.... and we are willing to die for our battle...so

.X. said:

we don't care

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No kidding. You are a complete idiot and traitor. Won't be responding to your dumb ass anymore. Just remember as things get worse, you played a part in it.

Go thru it - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Spiking. When it didn't have to be that way.

JB Lions said:

No kidding. You are a complete idiot and traitor. Won't be responding to your dumb ass anymore. Just remember as things get worse, you played a part in it.

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Your a traitor to the USA... You know exactly what your parties plans are with our country..... you don't need to ever respond to me anymore Commie

Canada's free speech is threatened by its "hate speech" laws.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...omedian-ugly-jeremy-gabriel-freedom-of-speech

I am against those laws anywhere, for that reason.

On the other hand, the US Constitution is no protection either. The Constitution has been so trample over already, it hardly makes any difference what it says. Even with ridiculous interpretations by politicized courts, most young people think it's a dated document that is no longer needed. Insane that laws are made by judges rather than by the people.

Talking about Constitutional rights while the local gestapo are dragging you away is like screaming about your right of way as a pedestrian while a cement truck runs you over.

Tensions rise outside of Kamala Harris event in Fort Worth Texas

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tensions-rise-outside-kamala-harris-224651126.html

A kid with virtually no risk of dying from corona-virus is scared to death of it and outraged at an older guy who actually has some small risk of dying from it, and isn't sweating it. How is that younger generation going to respond when things really get bad?

Pandemics will be a recurring part the future, and they will be many times worse than corona-virus. Add to that the destruction of resources, environmental degradation, economic collapses and most likely, war. And the reaction, from the looks of it, will make things worse yet again.

Domainace said:

A kid with virtually no risk of dying from corona-virus is scared to death of it and outraged at an older guy who actually has some small risk of dying from it, and isn't sweating it. How is that younger generation going to respond when things really get bad?

Pandemics will be a recurring part the future, and they will be many times worse than corona-virus. Add to that the destruction of resources, environmental degradation, economic collapses and most likely, war. And the reaction, from the looks of it, will make things worse yet again.

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What kid? If that was for me, I worry about catching it/dying from it..........0. I don't even have special hand sanitizer. When I go out where there are other people, I put on the mask, not a big deal.

My pet peeve has always been when stupid people in this world somehow affect those that aren't.

My issue is things getting shut down again, the economy getting even worse again.......when it didn't have too. I personally will be fine, I've been working from home full time since 2002. But it's just so stupid because people couldn't do that right thing and buckle down for a little until we get a vaccine, and even then, we would still have to follow the guidelines some more. But following guidelines, we could have kept it in check. Then we wouldn't be shutting things down again.

But just thinking about the sheer amount of dumb posting in this thread in regards to that. So for what's happening in this country, I put this mainly on Trump/Trumpers. We're going backwards.

To be anti-mask, anti-following guidelines in the middle of a pandemic, it just blows my mind. Were people this stupid before Trump? Or did they slowly get more stupid listening to him.

Can any Trumper here defend Trump looking at somebody and telling them that they're wearing a mask to be politically correct? What is wrong with him. It's like his brain is mush or he's just scared to death of that Presidential cloak going away and then going to prison.

Everybody should have been on the same page following guidelines to keep this virus in check until the vaccine.

Politically, this will be one of the major factors if not the main one why Trump will lose.

.X. said:

Your a traitor to the USA... You know exactly what your parties plans are with our country..... you don't need to ever respond to me anymore Commie

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Is it actually from US?. I thought maybe another canadian hiding in this thread

Domainace said:

Canada's free speech is threatened by its "hate speech" laws.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...omedian-ugly-jeremy-gabriel-freedom-of-speech

I am against those laws anywhere, for that reason.

On the other hand, the US Constitution is no protection either. The Constitution has been so trample over already, it hardly makes any difference what it says. Even with ridiculous interpretations by politicized courts, most young people think it's a dated document that is no longer needed. Insane that laws are made by judges rather than by the people.

Talking about Constitutional rights while the local gestapo are dragging you away is like screaming about your right of way as a pedestrian while a cement truck runs you over.

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Thank you for that observation. This was a point that I was trying to get across ie. not to be taken too liberally. That is the Canadian conservative bias, which has its merits and drawbacks. Therefore, I have tried very hard to take the word "hate" out of my vocabulary - which in turn, has changed my way of thinking. I used to harbour considerable resentment, and very likely still do, I'm human afterall, lol.

Fortunately, I have been able to smooth out many rough edges though pain. Indeed, alot of pain - ironically most of it procured through indulging in pleasures and taking risks. If I think in terms of simple economics - the pain I suffered after stocks fell and I lost substantial investments over a short period of time, mostly due to some decisions made in Washington (GWB to be exact). Hence my apprehension with Conservative economics . That's beside the point, I no longer put all my eggs in one basket and still have a share of my portfolio is US stocks, just as I do in domains (.COM, .CA etc.). On the digital front, there are new laws being proposed that will affect freedom of speech - and while I don't believe in hate speech, IMO there have to be some limits, especially laws regarding the spread of disinformation.

Many people are simply too gullible, and some people too smart to silence. I support neither of the parties in power, so in fairness all voices ought to be heard (but NOT amplified) even though we may not agree.

GILSAN said:

'Do you regret your lies?': Reporter asks Donald Trump; watch his response

This POS reporter deserved to have his fu*king teeth kicked in...

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DJ takes no responsibility, won't deny or retort. Doesn't even bother to answer... that speaks volumes!!

Winter is here...the goblins have all gone into hibernation. My new sled is prepped and ready! A nice base of two feet of fluffy white snowflakes to tread on. WoohooT!!

sonatime said:

Antifa and BLM Loot Truck In LA
Pretty weird how welfare and free stuff doesn't make people happy or satisfied

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Maybe Zombie Preparedness 101 is not a metaphor afterall.

Cannuck said:

DJ takes no responsibility, won't deny or retort. Doesn't even bother to answer... that speaks volumes!!

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The best answer was to NOT answer to this c*nt. I would have gone over and kicked his teeth in. It's because of trash like that SOB that so many people hate the LameStream Media.

[QUOTE="Cannuck, post: 8015695]You may be too young to know or have experienced pre-Constitution, it seems to me your views are pretty millenial, lol. Yes the Justice System is a nightmare. Every country has its merits and downfalls. I didn't say Canada was a Utopia, just that we are fortunate to have the Right to freedom of speech, that are not to be taken liberally. That may give people the right to say or meme wrong things as well. That is where Critical Thinking is necessary.

I see you follow Jordon Peterson ALOT. Can you quote someone else for a change, lol.

Just as the Nazi Party used prominenet US statisticians works to support their theory of Eugenics...eliminate the blind spots and you will see the light:
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Jordan Peterson gained most of his national and international exposure and fame because he challenged the proposed compelled speech law in Canada, first of its kind in history of Common Law. He was probably already contravening Canadian Human Rights Act but was never brought before a Human Rights Tribunal. Besides him, there were only two high profile journalists that were. He is a good reference when it comes to free speech in canada. But I will make sure not to use him again as a reference because you don't like expertise and logic. Sure thing, because I wouldn't want you to keel over from laughter.

I never experienced pre-constitution and didn't know my views are "pretty millenial". I always thought that your infatuation with global socialism bordered on psychopathy or of a young millenial pregnant female hoping to marry the government. Or maybe you think you will rank high in the animal farm collective.

Canadian constitutional protection of freedom of speech is very weak or non existent. Nothing to be proud of. I don't doubt many countries have better written constitutions but the American one is most inspired.