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  • Both Parties

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    44.7%
  • Neither Party

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    9.5%
  • Democrats

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    22.2%
  • Republicans

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    23.5%
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Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
your not interfering in anything .... your voice matters ...

I appreciate that @.X. (y) There are forces in this world that would rather silence free speech, to label as radicals and make every attempt to discredit and/or attack. Just in the past 1/2 hour, I have had a spam call by some unknown agency that threatened federal prosecution. The last time I came on here, my IP was blocked. Prior to that my computers were messed up. It's a scary world we're entering. I am trying my best to be a voice of reason in the wilderness. I have little to gain and a lot to loose by my participation. I sleep at night knowing that I have done my part. I am in a safe place and have found peace, that is all I wish for my brethren. Thanks.
 
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I appreciate that @.X. (y) There are forces in this world that would rather silence free speech, to label as radicals and make every attempt to discredit and/or attack. Just in the past 1/2 hour, I have had a spam call by some unknown agency that threatened federal prosecution. The last time I came on here, my IP was blocked. Prior to that my computers were messed up. It's a scary world we're entering. I am trying my best to be a voice of reason in the wilderness. I have little to gain and a lot to loose by my participation. I sleep at night knowing that I have done my part. I am in a safe place and have found peace, that is all I wish for my brethren. Thanks.

i got a call today from some prick saying he was with the IRS and if I didn’t pay $2,500 today ... the police will come to my house and arrest me . I told him to fuck his self.

sorry these people are fucking with you... messing with your computers is a big violation ... I wonder if it is Russia or Iran doing it
 
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Joe Biden last night at the debate , “” I have never taken one penny from a foreign country”

Biden will eat those words soon I think...
 
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So true. As always, spot on @GILSAN, spot on!
 
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i got a call today from some prick saying he was with the IRS and if I didn’t pay $2,500 today ... the police will come to my house and arrest me . I told him to fuck his self.

sorry these people are fucking with you... messing with your computers is a big violation ... I wonder if it is Russia or Iran doing it

Good we see eye to eye, we have confirmed that someone is playing games. I didn't press #1 and bite, though I wanted to tell them to F**K themselves (that's just not the way I roll). Messy business this election, I have already stated my assumptions. There's either money behind it, or some computer geek (who hides and lurks like a cockroach). To that cockroach... :wtf::upsetbaby::vomit:
 
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Do you consider facts or simply ignore them?

What has worked in the past may not work well in the future. Investing in pro-active entrepreneurial endeavors, providing incentives for small business is a good thing. Fossil fuels will not go away anytime soon. That is not in question. Fracking has proven to be a source of water pollution and environmental destruction, especially through expansion into protected Federal Wildlife refuges. Providing jobs in new technology and developing sectors allows for free-market competition, more importantly, employment.

Government regulations need to be based on evidence. Enforcing stricter guidelines on heavy polluters is smart.

Allowing industrial giants like China to have free reign without enforcement is stupid.
Now you sound like President Trump.

The only way USA will be able to have any leverage on countries like China is if they lead by example. Two wrongs don't make a right.

You don't own the market of ideas. Look at how California is implementing the "climate accord" before you criticize my view point.

Oceans are not getting cleaner despite groups like green peace. I support conservation but it has to be done through innovation not taxing and regulating people into poverty.

If you think the $10 to $15 gallon ( 3.8 liters ) of gasoline is a made up number, go back and research what people were saying 8 years ago. Oregon tried to tax people based on how many miles they drove. California considered it.

Obama administration used the "navigable waters" act to regulate seasonal stream, fish ponds etc. It was against the rules to capture rain water.

Court declares Obama’s EPA “Waters of the United States Rule” unlawful
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/...pa-waters-of-the-united-states-rule-unlawful/
 
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i got a call today from some prick saying he was with the IRS and if I didn’t pay $2,500 today ... the police will come to my house and arrest me . I told him to fuck his self.

sorry these people are fucking with you... messing with your computers is a big violation ... I wonder if it is Russia or Iran doing it
Is this seriously happening in countries which we don't consider war zones?
 
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At a rally in Florida with 20 thousand people.
Thanks, I was on my phone and didn't complete the post. It was supposed to read, You know Trump is hiding his tax returns. Why?
 
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Thanks, I was on my phone and didn't complete the post. It was supposed to read, You know Trump is hiding his tax returns. Why?

He says he's under audit. He also said it was because he didn't want his enemies to use them against him. Which would happen.

I think Muller's team did see Trump's tax returns, found nothing and made the decision to not pursue financial crimes public to make themselves sound fair.
 
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Allowing industrial giants like China to have free reign without enforcement is stupid.

Now you sound like President Trump.

You don't own the market of ideas.
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How does that resemble Trump (apart from the word enforcement)? I had hoped that Donald would have taken some measure to clean up his own backyard, together with other leaders, and clean up the environment. Don't you agree that the world is polluted enough? Unless some ideas are considered pollution, so I guess he is, in his own way :xf.wink:
 
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Is this seriously happening in countries which we don't consider war zones?

Who is we? And who is attacking? That is the question...
 
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There's either money behind it, or some computer geek (who hides and lurks like a cockroach). To that cockroach... :wtf::upsetbaby::vomit:
Tell him to get fu*ked in Italian...

Some other handy Italian swearwords...
 
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How does that resemble Trump (apart from the word enforcement)?

Trump said those same words. The Paris Climate Accord would let China, with the dirtiest air in the world, keep polluting while USA and Europe operated under different rules.

Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy just released the “Guide to Chinese Climate Policy 2019,” and it provides yet more support for President Trump’s reasoning regarding U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate accord.
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/climate-change/china-is-erasing-the-paris-climate-accord/

Why do I have to explain this to you? You're the green party.

I had hoped that Donald would have taken some measure to clean up his own backyard, together with other leaders, and clean up the environment. Don't you agree that the world is polluted enough? Unless some ideas are considered pollution, so I guess he is, in his own way :xf.wink:

We can pressure him to do so. He seems to respond well to reasoned request that will benefit the country. Maybe if democrats were less worried about not letting Trump win, they could negotiate for better recycling, conservation incentives.
 
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Trump said those same words. The Paris Climate Accord would let China, with the dirtiest air in the world, keep polluting while USA and Europe operated under different rules.

Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy just released the “Guide to Chinese Climate Policy 2019,” and it provides yet more support for President Trump’s reasoning regarding U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate accord.
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/climate-change/china-is-erasing-the-paris-climate-accord/

Why do I have to explain this to you? You're the green party.

We can pressure him to do so. He seems to respond well to reasoned request that will benefit the country. Maybe if democrats were less worried about not letting Trump win, they could negotiate for better recycling, conservation incentives.

Thank you for explaining in detail. Now I have a better understanding your point of view (y)

Sharing ideas is how we communicate. That is the difference between us humans and the animal world. We have lost our ability to communicate with them, and among ourselves. We wage wars on each other and the environment, mostly for greed (a different type of war than what was fought in the name of freedom in past).

I do my best to live in harmony with Mother Earth. As an advocate of the Green Party, It is my way of showing support for those who do not have a voice - the creatures who share this planet with us. Call me Dr Doolittle, but I try to do alot, as much as I can within my means to speak with and understand the minds of those who may hold different values in order to come to a consensus. Leaving the table, IMO is not the best option.
 
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@JB Lions - there is truth to what you say. Can you recall any post where I have been pro-Biden or even pro-Liberal? If so, then call me on that, please. Personally I would feel like I am interfering in the election by supporting one side in particular, considering I am not a citizen of the United States. I am a global citizen and I support the Green Party (which would benefit everyone). That sounds socialist, but have I been pro-Socialist? I don't believe so. I have said that there are positive benefits to having social programs like medicare and unemployment insurance - that is why we pay taxes IMO. Otherwise, I would say to hell with taxes and let me make my own medicine, which by the way, I do. The only time in recent memory that I have seen a doctor is to get a my medical license to legally grow my own weed. The last time I was in a hospital was to have my appendix removed. They almost got me hooked on opioids after that incident.

I have no malicious intent or wish to interfere whatsoever in US elections, but as a member of NP's, I am consistently being put on guard by those who defend Trump, with whom I have continued to correct on a number of issues. The dissension caused by they who feel they have someone or something to protect, by act of omission or by ignoring fact, and by personally attacking someone who is trying to help illuminate errors, is a blatant disregard for truth IMO. Is that not the purpose of this forum? Agreed, the the way of Trump is not mine, nor will I ever support someone in government who IMO is merely self-seeking, promotes division and consistently lies. Isn't the government supposed to be for the people, not one's self? However you dress it up, if it walks and quacks... well, you know the story. :xf.grin:
I wasn’t talking about you. The liar who likes to lie about lying knows exactly who I’m talking about. Even in his replies, he lies some more. Have you ever seen the movie ET when ET gets drunk Elliot gets drunk. It’s the same thing with Trump. Trump is ET, mr-x is Elliot. Non stop lying
 
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Yet this is clear: there is no solution to climate change without China. China’s transition to a low-carbon economy will have far-reaching consequences not just for China but the entire world
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With business-as-usual in China, as elsewhere in Asia, King Coal is undermining the Paris accord one day at a time, with years and decades of emissions being locked-in. Small wonder why the global 85 percent market share of fossil fuels shows little sign of eroding.

The grand global carbon mitigation strategy is in big trouble. Free-market wealth-is-health adaptation remains the only viable strategy to meet and defeat weather and climate extremes from any source. It is time to call off the statist climate crusade.

I have been saying the same thing since I began this thread 6 months ago.

I wasn’t talking about you. The liar who likes to lie about lying knows exactly who I’m talking about. Even in his replies, he lies some more. Have you ever seen the movie ET when ET gets drunk Elliot gets drunk. It’s the same thing with Trump. Trump is ET, mr-x is Elliot. Non stop lying

I understand, forgive me for the reference. :giggle: I had hoped that you would correct me if I was in error.
 
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You're a sore looser.

I wasn’t talking about you. The liar who likes to lie about lying knows exactly who I’m talking about. Even in his replies, he lies some more. Have you ever seen the movie ET when ET gets drunk Elliot gets drunk. It’s the same thing with Trump. Trump is ET, mr-x is Elliot. Non stop lying

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Tell him to get fu*ked in Italian...

Some other handy Italian swearwords...

I grew up in an Italian neighbourhood during my formative years, I know the language and the hand gestures and expressions well, lol. I am also familiar with mafioso and their ways. It was my training grounds :xf.cool:
 
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