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How I use GoDaddy Appraisal Tool / NameBio / Estibot to determine DN value?

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I currently have subscriptions to NameBio and Estibot. Some of you have seen my recent post airing my complaints about Estibot and how I won't be using it as an Appraisal Tool as it is not accurate, however; the other information that Estibot provides I think is very useful, like the MS and CPC data that it provides is great, and I'd like to get some insight on how you all use that data with the data that is provided by NameBio and even Godaddy's Appraisal Tool and Google Search in order to help determine a good value and pricing for my domains.

I have one example on how I've been using the tools recently. Please provide some constructive feedback and advice or insight on how I'm using these tools and examples on how you use these tools yourself to appraise your own domains and determine the price you ultimate list them for sale for. What am I doing wrong and what can I do to improve?

So let me get started here. Let's say I am DN shopping. I type in a DN idea into Godaddy Appraisal tools. Net/Core/Bank.com for example. One of my own. So, I go to NameBio. I set up the search settings. Price Range between $1000 and $5000.
Placement Anywhere. Date Range Any. I leave the rest of the settings at default.

Now I type the first keyword from my domain in. "Net" I see there are 2,434 entries, 12 pages deep I see that within this year from January up to the 16th of this month, domains long and short with this Keyword have been selling consistantly on average between $1K and $3K.

Now I type in the second keyword from my domain in. "Core" I see there are 310 entries, 2 pages deep I see that within this year since January up til the 19th of this month, domains long and short with this keyword have been selling on average between $1k and $3K.

Now I type the last keyword in from my domain. "Bank" I see there are 580 entries, 4 pages deep I see that within this year since January up until the 16th of this month, domains long and short with this keyword have been selling on average between $1K and $3K.

Now I go to Estibot to check the MSD and CPC.

Net.com is valued at $1,229,000 USD Obviously I wouldn't price my domain based on the .com. But it's the Broad Search and Exact Search Data I should be more interested, right? Of course.

Broad Searches for the keyword "Net"
Keyword net
Monthly Searches 506,000,000
Cost per Click $1.27

Exact Searches for the keyword "Net"
Keyword [net]
Monthly Searches 4,090,000
Cost per Click $0.25

Core.com Estibot Value is $225,000 USD

Broad Searches for the keyword "Core"
Keyword core
Monthly Searches 37,200,000
Cost per Click $1.63

Exact Searches for the keyword "Core"
Keyword [core]
Monthly Searches 110,000
Cost per Click $1.73

Bank.com Estibot value is $1,203,000 USD

Broad Searches for the keyword "Bank"
Keyword bank
Monthly Searches 338,000,000
Cost per Click $0.74

Exact Searches for the keyword "Bank"
Keyword [bank]
Monthly Searches 673,000
Cost per Click $1.26

Now I go to Godaddy's Appraisal Tool. I type in my DN CoreNetBank.com. Godaddy's tool estimates it at $1,678.

Information why Godaddy considers this value as high as it is because of this data here:

Why this is valuable
  • Comparable domains sold:
bitcashbank.com $1,495

alphanetcapital.com $877

globaldatabank.com $2,588
  • Valuable keywords: bank and core are high value keywords with an average sale price of $2597 and $2042.
  • Popular keywords: bank and core are widely used keywords.
  • Great extension: Uses the .com extension.
Google Search Results for the Keyword Net is: 13,670,000,000 results
Google Search Results for the Kyword Core is: 2,380,000,000 results
Google Search Results for the Kyword Bank is: 3,050,000,000 results

Lastly I suppose I should consider the length of my DN, it's under 15 characters. It's 11 characters long. N/E/T/C/O/R/E/B/A/N/K, and it's easy to remember. In my opinion.

Taking all these things into acount, I think I sell this domain between 1K and 3K. What do you guys think about my price range conclusion?
 
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Problem is..... there has been no reported .com sales with net core at the beginning of the domain......

Net & Bank are strong keywords.....

Net Core + keyword is weak.....
 
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Also when you look at keyword data, it is pretty useless to look for individual keywords.
You need to look at the keyword data of the two words together, unless you are targeting only one keywords, then the data for that 1 keyword, here being bank.

So you either find the exact match for "Net+Core+Bank" or just "bank"
Neither will give you meaningful information.
Because if it is going to be Just bank, you might as well use a made up suffix.

The fact that the 3 keywords have individual search volume on their own doesn't make any sense.
I wouldn't give too much equity to Estibot data.
Estimate any made name with a popular game or a brand, the estimate will be hugely skewed.
Try GoNintendo.com or something and you will get what I am saying.

Valuation data should be used only for filtering a million raw data down to a few thousand, and not to be seriously taken at individual level
 
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Problem is..... there has been no reported .com sales with net core at the beginning of the domain......

Net & Bank are strong keywords.....

Net Core + keyword is weak.....

When you say "NetCore" is a weak keyword" is it really though? In Google search with quotes around it, it gets over 2,000,000 results. That's quite a lot if you ask me. What am I missing here exactly? Are you only going off of NameBio results? When you search NetCore in NameBio there are no results.

When you search NetCore in Estibot however NetCore.com is estimated by estibot at $4,100 USD.

Broad Searches for the keyword NetCore:
Keyword netcore
Monthly Searches 27,100
Cost per Click $1.05

Exact Searches for the keyword NetCore
Keyword [netcore]
Monthly Searches 4,400
Cost per Click $0.10

I understand NameBio is only one source, and that when estimating a domain value you should use multiple sources. Godaddy Estimates NetCore.com for example at $18,684.

If I could get $500 or even as high as $1500 for NetCoreBank.com I'd be quite happy. I'd also be happy with just a couple hundred bucks.
 
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You may be right about how it doesn't get many results when you do searches in the way that you did, but actually, I don't think anyone does searches like the way you did for my domain on the regular.

Who's typing words bunched up together like that? No one would search "netcorebank" they might rather type in "net core bank" instead. When you do the search with the words separate, you get more results and more pages. Granted, not very much still but, it's not just one page of results.

Thanks for the feedback anwyay.
 
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Arguing the toss does not change the fact it is not a good domain with NO reported sales data with netcore at the beginning.....this tells you there is NO end user or wholesale appetite for this domain...

netcore is NOT a keyword....

Net | core | bank are 3 separate keywords on their own right.....BUT when you combine them all together they make no sense, hence no sales data for netcore + keyword

We have all been here when trying to defend our registrations when we first start ( i did ) but the fact is it is not a good domain , could it sell? Yes, any domain could sell is it likely to....no...based on the sales data mentioned.....

If no one makes an enquiry after 12 months drop it....

The only thing that is showing up for me is......

"ASP.Net Core is the latest technology that is an open-source, cross-platform, upgraded version and high-performance framework from Microsoft."

Which can used be used by developers to create a banking or finance App....

Was this why you registered it?
 
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Arguing the toss does not change the fact it is not a good domain with NO reported sales data with netcore at the beginning.....this tells you there is NO end user or wholesale appetite for this domain...

netcore is NOT a keyword....

Net | core | bank are 3 separate keywords on their own right.....BUT when you combine them all together they make no sense, hence no sales data for netcore + keyword

We have all been here when trying to defend our registrations when we first start ( i did ) but the fact is it is not a good domain , could it sell? Yes, any domain could sell is it likely to....no...based on the sales data mentioned.....

If no one makes an enquiry after 12 months drop it....

The only thing that is showing up for me is......

"ASP.Net Core is the latest technology that is an open-source, cross-platform, upgraded version and high-performance framework from Microsoft."

Which can used be used by developers to create a banking or finance App....

Was this why you registered it?

Hi NickB! Thanks for the response! I just want to make it clear to you and everyone else that I am actually not in fact "defending" any of my domain names, I actually know a lot of them are bad actually, but I'm just trying to understand how all of this works and why they are bad, so please don't take my questioning of people's explanations of why my domain is bad to me as me defending my domains. I would prefer honest feedback on my domains so I know what to look out for in the future. It's good that I question everyone who says my domain is crap so I know without a doubt why my domain is crap.

""ASP.Net Core is the latest technology that is an open-source, cross-platform, upgraded version and high-performance framework from Microsoft."

Which can used be used by developers to create a banking or finance App....

Was this why you registered it?"

I didn't register this domain because of that actually. It was a completely random thing. I thought okay Net is short for internet. I thought about online banking. And Core means the central part of something and of course bank which we all know what that is. And I thought that these three words put together would make sense and someone would find interest in them. That's literally the only reason I registered this domain. Of course I bought this domain before I discovered NamePros and started learning about things like search volume of keywords and CPC etc.

Actually there's a domain NetCore.com that actually is estimated quite high on Godaddy $18,684 and Estibot $4,100. the Monthly searches are quite high on Estibots data for netcore.com
 
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One thing you can do without using mathematics and search values is to think about the name you want to purchase or register.

I mean, try to think if a business can use that name as their website. Think about the name, the 2 (or 3) words make sense together? Who can use this name? If you can't think of any specific use don't buy it.

For example:

FreeMoneySex.com

These 3 words have millions of searches, probably are the most searched ones online.

You will find lot of domains sales with "Free", with "Money" and of course with "Sex".

But the domain itself doesn't make sense, at least to me. In fact is available for registration.

Disclaimer: I just realized it will be possible to start jocking about this 3 words together in a domain and make this thread huge, lol... This wasn't my intention, I just put the first 3 words I thought that get lots of searches but don't make sense together. Go ahead at your own risk, hahaha...
 
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One thing you can do without using mathematics and search values is to think about the name you want to purchase or register.

I mean, try to think if a business can use that name as their website. Think about the name, the 2 (or 3) words make sense together? Who can use this name? If you can't think of any specific use don't buy it.

For example:

FreeMoneySex.com

These 3 words have millions of searches, probably are the most searched ones online.

You will find lot of domains sales with "Free", with "Money" and of course with "Sex".

But the domain itself doesn't make sense, at least to me. In fact is available for registration.

Disclaimer: I just realized it will be possible to start jocking about this 3 words together in a domain and make this thread huge, lol... This wasn't my intention, I just put the first 3 words I thought that get lots of searches but don't make sense together. Go ahead at your own risk, hahaha...

Thsnks Passini! I appreciate this response, I will keep that in mind the next time I think up some new ideas. I recently downloaded a bunch of Top Keywords for Pay-Per-Click from a website called WordStream.com
I'm noticing Estibot gives higher estimations for domains with these keywords in them of course. I went through and downloaded all the keywords that were available. Lol
 
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The word net in 3 words sentence has no SEO merit at all try rank it and see for yourself. Search results mean nothing it is exact searches in a month you need.
 
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I also think you have to consider the combination of words.

Lets use a sample domain: SpecialtyFoodsCorp dot com (not mine dont know if its real)

I then go to Namebio and look for how many sales Included 'SpecialtyFoods' and 'FoodsCorp' to get a VERY general idea of value.

Then use Estibot to get CPC for the combo words, not the individual words.

IMO, you are overvaluing your domains by using just the individual words: Net, Core, Bank. I would use: NetCore and CoreBank and check those in NBio and the CPC.

Just my opinion and thus doesnt mean an End User wont come along and pay you 50k for your domain!
 
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  • I don't think it makes sense to rely on third-party domain name evaluation reports
    The destination of domain name is terminal, if there is a better terminal, then the price must be very unexpected:xf.smile:
    • I've also used Estibot, which is not accurate
 
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