Zarkoza
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I just bought the month subscription for Estibot as I was told and see everyone swearing by it. I was happy with the subscription purchase until I imported all of my DNs into Estibot and they were all appraised.
Obviously, as beginner I've made the mistake of relying on Robo Evaluation Tools to determine whether or not to buy a domain and have paid for it, I realize I shouldn't rely on automated evaluation tools to make buying decisions, I haven't recently, the domains I added to Estibot recently, these were domains I had already bought and I thought I'd see what they would be appraised for by this tool which domainers who seem like they know what they're talking about seem to swear to god by.
I know I also shouldn't rely completely on automated tools in general, but some of the data I find is certainly useful, and again, I see a LOT of Domainers who have been in the game for way long that swear by this tool, however; when the domains I had bought just because they sounded either cool or interesting and had no real meaning or were domains I thought would be a great brandable domains that I had just recently come to "realize" and started thinking were absolute trash were getting higher evaluations than the ones I thought actually used keywords and had meaning etc. were getting $0 evaluations, it was quite the smack in the face and discouraging to say the least. Something is wrong here.
Estibot valued for example about 94 out of 134 of my portfolio at $0! I call foul. The rest had evaluations anywhere between $5 to $1K. Actually one was valued at 1K on Estibot and it made no sense why. It was a radnom made up word I typed in to godaddy and bought because Godaddy Appraisal said it's estimated value was $1,462... The difference between Godaddy Appraisals and Estibot is that Godaddy gives better comparable domains that have sold from my testings. Estibot just seems like it doesn't even try to comparable domains with similar spellings or words.
For example. The Domain Ilqua.com, estimated at $1,462, and $1000 by Estinbot, thw comparable domains that have been sold according to Godaddy are as follows: abiqua.com $1,250, ilcon.com $2,484, loqua.com $2,595. Meanwhile Estibot's comparable domains are as follows: valtd.com $1,088,
baymo.com $900, dcnow.com $910, repme.com $1,102, homla.com $1,064. It's almost like it didn't even try to find domains with similar spellings or anything. At least Godaddy found domains that sold that had QUA or IL in it!
Estibot valued my domain FabVoila.com at $0 which is interesting because I had actually gotten that specific domain appraised by a human at Afternic. They Appraised that domain at $400 which I was happy with. Now, obviously a human is going to be better than a bot at valuing domains I know. But look
The keyword Fab gets 271,000,000 in Google search results. Voila gets 227,000,000 in Google search results
Estibot says Fab gets 6,120,000 Monthly Broad Searches and Cost per Click is $0.69, and 368,000 Exact monthly searches and CPC is $0.26
Estibot says Voila gets 6,120,000 Monthly Broad Searches and Cost per Click is $1.14,
2,240,000 Exact monthly searches and $6.51 Cost per clicks.
This makes me distrust Estibot as an accurate appraisal tool. If it's going to appraise domains that have no real meaning, no real word kewords, then I think I need to NOT look more at Estibot as decently accurate Appraisal tool, but look at more of the other information it provides.
The Keywords in my domain CompletelyEnglish.com domain, according to Estibot, the keyword "Completely" gets 1,500,000 Monthly Broad Searches, and the Cost per Click is $2.66,
49,500 monthly Exact Searches, and $0.10 CP.
Broad Searches
Keyword completely
Monthly Searches 1,500,000
Cost per Click $2.66
Exact Searches
Keyword [completely]
Monthly Searches 49,500
Cost per Click $0.10
The keyword "English" 124,000,000 Monthly Searches, the Cost per Click is $1.50, 301,000 exact searches and $1.56
Broad Searches
Keyword english
Monthly Searches 124,000,000
Cost per Click $1.50
Exact Searches
Keyword [english]
Monthly Searches 301,000
Cost per Click $1.56
Ad Competition -
Data Age Recent
CompletelyEnglish.com search results are as follows:
Broad Searches
Keyword completely english
Monthly Searches 1,300
Cost per Click $8.75
Exact Searches
Keyword [completely english]
Monthly Searches 0
Cost per Click -
Another big issue I'm having with this Automated Tool as opposed to Godaddy Appraisal tool is that, the Comparable Domain Sales that Estibot provides are just absurd in comparison to Godaddy Appraisals Comparable Sales Results.
For example, using my CompletelyEnglish.com domain, Goddady Estimates it at $1,159
Why this is valuable
$1,426
totallyfrench.com
$500
perfectlyspoken.com
$650
Meanwhile Estibot provides these random trashy comparable sold domains:
COMPARABLE DOMAIN SALES
Domain Price Date
italianristorante.com $180 2016-01-07
yothai.com $122 2019-06-17
meyue.com $164 2019-03-03
fitwu.com $140 2018-03-29
yuezhua.com $120 2017-10-27
These so called comparable domains have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Keywords in my domain. in the world. They are completely nonrelated and make no sense. What am I missing here?
Godaddy tells me why this is a valuable domain:
Popular keyword: english is a widely used keyword.
Memorable: completelyenglish.com is easy to remember.
Great extension: Uses the .com extension.
Meanwhile estibot considers this a very long domain, with low interest, and low searches.
My conclusion is that I don't understand Estibot as an Appraisal tool, and I certainly wouldnt' use it to determine whether or not I have a good valuable domain based on their fair market appraisals. It seems to be a flawed appraisal tool. I would recommend using it for the search volume data and CPC. That's probably all it's good for so far in my opinion for the limited time that I've been using it. Maybe i'll discover some other great benefits that make me love it more the more I use it. I think that's what most people are probably using it for anyway though is the search volume data and cpc data.
Anway I thought I'd vent my irritation with it. Maybe someone can give some insight on how to actually look at the data I'm looking at.
Obviously, as beginner I've made the mistake of relying on Robo Evaluation Tools to determine whether or not to buy a domain and have paid for it, I realize I shouldn't rely on automated evaluation tools to make buying decisions, I haven't recently, the domains I added to Estibot recently, these were domains I had already bought and I thought I'd see what they would be appraised for by this tool which domainers who seem like they know what they're talking about seem to swear to god by.
I know I also shouldn't rely completely on automated tools in general, but some of the data I find is certainly useful, and again, I see a LOT of Domainers who have been in the game for way long that swear by this tool, however; when the domains I had bought just because they sounded either cool or interesting and had no real meaning or were domains I thought would be a great brandable domains that I had just recently come to "realize" and started thinking were absolute trash were getting higher evaluations than the ones I thought actually used keywords and had meaning etc. were getting $0 evaluations, it was quite the smack in the face and discouraging to say the least. Something is wrong here.
Estibot valued for example about 94 out of 134 of my portfolio at $0! I call foul. The rest had evaluations anywhere between $5 to $1K. Actually one was valued at 1K on Estibot and it made no sense why. It was a radnom made up word I typed in to godaddy and bought because Godaddy Appraisal said it's estimated value was $1,462... The difference between Godaddy Appraisals and Estibot is that Godaddy gives better comparable domains that have sold from my testings. Estibot just seems like it doesn't even try to comparable domains with similar spellings or words.
For example. The Domain Ilqua.com, estimated at $1,462, and $1000 by Estinbot, thw comparable domains that have been sold according to Godaddy are as follows: abiqua.com $1,250, ilcon.com $2,484, loqua.com $2,595. Meanwhile Estibot's comparable domains are as follows: valtd.com $1,088,
baymo.com $900, dcnow.com $910, repme.com $1,102, homla.com $1,064. It's almost like it didn't even try to find domains with similar spellings or anything. At least Godaddy found domains that sold that had QUA or IL in it!
Estibot valued my domain FabVoila.com at $0 which is interesting because I had actually gotten that specific domain appraised by a human at Afternic. They Appraised that domain at $400 which I was happy with. Now, obviously a human is going to be better than a bot at valuing domains I know. But look
The keyword Fab gets 271,000,000 in Google search results. Voila gets 227,000,000 in Google search results
Estibot says Fab gets 6,120,000 Monthly Broad Searches and Cost per Click is $0.69, and 368,000 Exact monthly searches and CPC is $0.26
Estibot says Voila gets 6,120,000 Monthly Broad Searches and Cost per Click is $1.14,
2,240,000 Exact monthly searches and $6.51 Cost per clicks.
This makes me distrust Estibot as an accurate appraisal tool. If it's going to appraise domains that have no real meaning, no real word kewords, then I think I need to NOT look more at Estibot as decently accurate Appraisal tool, but look at more of the other information it provides.
The Keywords in my domain CompletelyEnglish.com domain, according to Estibot, the keyword "Completely" gets 1,500,000 Monthly Broad Searches, and the Cost per Click is $2.66,
49,500 monthly Exact Searches, and $0.10 CP.
Broad Searches
Keyword completely
Monthly Searches 1,500,000
Cost per Click $2.66
Exact Searches
Keyword [completely]
Monthly Searches 49,500
Cost per Click $0.10
The keyword "English" 124,000,000 Monthly Searches, the Cost per Click is $1.50, 301,000 exact searches and $1.56
Broad Searches
Keyword english
Monthly Searches 124,000,000
Cost per Click $1.50
Exact Searches
Keyword [english]
Monthly Searches 301,000
Cost per Click $1.56
Ad Competition -
Data Age Recent
CompletelyEnglish.com search results are as follows:
Broad Searches
Keyword completely english
Monthly Searches 1,300
Cost per Click $8.75
Exact Searches
Keyword [completely english]
Monthly Searches 0
Cost per Click -
Another big issue I'm having with this Automated Tool as opposed to Godaddy Appraisal tool is that, the Comparable Domain Sales that Estibot provides are just absurd in comparison to Godaddy Appraisals Comparable Sales Results.
For example, using my CompletelyEnglish.com domain, Goddady Estimates it at $1,159
Why this is valuable
- Comparable domains sold:
$1,426
totallyfrench.com
$500
perfectlyspoken.com
$650
Meanwhile Estibot provides these random trashy comparable sold domains:
COMPARABLE DOMAIN SALES
Domain Price Date
italianristorante.com $180 2016-01-07
yothai.com $122 2019-06-17
meyue.com $164 2019-03-03
fitwu.com $140 2018-03-29
yuezhua.com $120 2017-10-27
These so called comparable domains have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Keywords in my domain. in the world. They are completely nonrelated and make no sense. What am I missing here?
Godaddy tells me why this is a valuable domain:
Popular keyword: english is a widely used keyword.
Memorable: completelyenglish.com is easy to remember.
Great extension: Uses the .com extension.
Meanwhile estibot considers this a very long domain, with low interest, and low searches.
WHY IT'S VALUABLE:
Great Extension: .com has the highest resale value
Very Long: Domains longer than 15 characters are not as memorable.
Low Interest: popular extensions, including .net and .org appear to be available
Low Searches: the term completely english is not commonly searched for on Google®
My conclusion is that I don't understand Estibot as an Appraisal tool, and I certainly wouldnt' use it to determine whether or not I have a good valuable domain based on their fair market appraisals. It seems to be a flawed appraisal tool. I would recommend using it for the search volume data and CPC. That's probably all it's good for so far in my opinion for the limited time that I've been using it. Maybe i'll discover some other great benefits that make me love it more the more I use it. I think that's what most people are probably using it for anyway though is the search volume data and cpc data.
Anway I thought I'd vent my irritation with it. Maybe someone can give some insight on how to actually look at the data I'm looking at.
