.ca Dot CA Discussion, Sales, and Showcase

whitebark · Jul 7, 2008

Domains For Next MyID .ca Auction

These are the upcoming domains and reserve range for the next/current myid.ca auction:

666.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Acrobats.ca ($251 - $500)
affordabletrips.ca ($251 - $500)
AirportRentals.ca ($1001 - $1750)
albertabyowner.ca ($251 - $500)
BridalOnline.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Broke.ca ($5001 - $7500)
CanadianDrugStores.ca ($501 - $750)
CanadianTennis.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CarStore.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CheaperFlights.ca ($101 - $250)
CraftSales.ca ($501 - $750)
DiscountTours.ca ($1001 - $1750)
DivorceTips.ca ($501 - $750)
DownloadFreeRingtone(s).ca ($2 - $100)
DUILawyers.ca ($1001 - $1750)
EasyIncome.ca ($751 - $1000)
EcoVoyage.ca ($251 - $500)
EngineeringCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
Enlargement(s).ca ($751 - $1000)
ExoticHolidays.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FashionOnline.ca ($2501 - $3750)
Fertiliser.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FitnessJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
FlightSearch.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Freebies.ca ($7501 - $10000)
FreelancingJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
FurnitureLiquidation.ca ($751 - $1000)
GayBlog.ca ($251 - $500)
GayCanada.ca ($3751 - $5000)
HealthGuide.ca ($1001 - $1750)
HearingAids.ca ($7501 - $10000)
Hired.ca ($7501 - $10000)
HockeyGame.ca ($1001 - $1750)
homegardens.ca ($251 - $500)
HowToDance.ca ($501 - $750)
iBlogs.ca ($751 - $1000)
InternetHelp.ca ($251 - $500)
InternetPhones.ca ($1751 - $2500)
JFK.ca ($1001 - $1750)
JointVenture.ca ($2501 - $3750)
KitchenWare.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Lake-Ontario.ca ($1001 - $1750)
LogosOnline.ca ($501 - $750)
Mask.ca ($3751 - $5000)
MontrealLaser.ca ($251 - $500)
MontrealTravel.ca ($1001 - $1750)
MusicJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
NutritionJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
OakvilleFlowers.ca ($501 - $750)
OnlineCoupons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
OnlineDates.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineGaming.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineStock.ca ($751 - $1000)
OnlineStocks.ca ($751 - $1000)
OrganicStore.ca ($1751 - $2500)
PharmaceuticalCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
PizzaRestaurant(s).ca ($101 - $250)
PrivatePilots.ca ($501 - $750)
ProFootball.ca ($251 - $500)
QuebecHoneymoons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
RollerBlading.ca ($5001 - $7500)
SaskatoonRealtors.ca ($101 - $250)
SelfImprovement.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Sensual.ca ($10001 - $15000)
Shareware.ca ($15001 - $25000)
SingleChristian.ca ($251 - $500)
SmallJob.ca ($1001 - $1750)
SNN.ca ($251 - $500)
Snores.ca ($1751 - $2500)
SportsStore.ca ($501 - $750)
TechJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TeddyBear.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Theme.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TNN.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputer.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputers.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoDentists.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TravelAuction.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UniqueGifts.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UsedHouses.ca ($251 - $500)
UsedLaptops.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Valuable.ca ($501 - $750)
VancouverHomeForSale.ca ($101 - $250)
War.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Women.ca ($50000)

I can see a number of these getting picked up - there a few others I'm surprised they accepted the high reserve and can't see selling because of it. What do you think?

DomainRecap · Oct 15, 2020

rlm said:
Is that USD or CAD? I just want to know exactly how much I can spend on next week's TBR

USD, and no guarantee it'll be by next week, but certainly within a year.

jaydub · Oct 16, 2020

rlm said:
[me googling how to file for a restraining order...]

rlm · Oct 16, 2020

DomainRecap said:
It's not my fault we live in the Matrix - that's why I wanted Flagstone, as I see that selling mid-4-figures $4.3K to be exact) within the next year.

Sounds like you're the Oracle? Does that make me The One?

Or is that just a subtle hint that you're the one who bought matrix a while back? hmmm...

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

It looks like Eugene is back on the job and he just solved all my Siber issues in one fell swoop.

nafti · Oct 16, 2020

Could Eugene really be...... I mean Schitt’s Creek is over now.....

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

You're a bit late for that Eugene party, as I already went old-school.

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw my first Siber support email.

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

I just love these GoDaddy nimrods who bid $20, I counter, they bid $21, I counter a dollar lower on my offer, they bid $22, I counter, and so on and so on.

These dorks think they're being smart, when in reality they're just pushing up my listings in the "Number of Bids" column, and as I said before I've sold several "hot" domains this way.

aactive · Oct 16, 2020

DomainRecap said:
I just love these GoDaddy nimrods who bid $20, I counter, they bid $21, I counter a dollar lower on my offer, they bid $22, I counter, and so on and so on.

These dorks think they're being smart, when in reality they're just pushing up my listings in the "Number of Bids" column, and as I said before I've sold several "hot" domains this way.

Couldn't you avoid all the irritation and drama and just set minimum bids/offers? Or is that not possible?

esdiel · Oct 16, 2020

DomainRecap said:
I just love these GoDaddy nimrods who bid $20, I counter, they bid $21, I counter a dollar lower on my offer, they bid $22, I counter, and so on and so on.

These dorks think they're being smart, when in reality they're just pushing up my listings in the "Number of Bids" column, and as I said before I've sold several "hot" domains this way.

Same thing happens to me ALL the time. Must be the same person. Sometimes they even start at $21 and they counter at $20.

You're right about the bid count being a nice thing but im not sure how many people see those, since it's only viewable in the marketplace itself, whereas it doesn't show if someone just searches your domain from the home page (i.e. it will just take them to sales page, where the bid count doesn't show).

esdiel · Oct 16, 2020

aactive said:
Couldn't you avoid all the irritation and drama and just set minimum bids/offers?

That might be something worth doing for some, but the $20 minimum is strategic in the sense that we use them as "feelers" (at least with GD). It gives us an idea what domains have interest, which is helpful when you have lots of domains and need to figure out what's worth renewing.

Also, keep in mind these offers are coming via GD even though the domains might be parked at Sedo, with a BIN (for example).

A lot of offers come thru GD given that people are familiar with GD and likely have an account there already, which leads them to be more willing/tempted to submit an offer, even if it's a shitty one. I get dozens of offers per month via GD, and essentially 0 at Sedo, even though most of my domain are parked at Sedo.

aactive · Oct 16, 2020

esdiel said:
That might be something worth doing, but the $20 minimum is strategic in the sense that we use them as "feelers" (at least with GD). It gives us an idea what domains have interest, which is helpful when you have lots of domains and need to figure out what's worth renewing.

Also, keep in mind these offers are coming via GD even though the domains might be parked at Sedo, with a BIN (for example).

A lot of offers come thru GD given that people are familiar with GD and likely have an account there already, which leads them to be more willing/tempted to submit an offer, even if its a shitty one. I get dozens of offers per month via GD, and essentially 0 at Sedo, even though most of my domain are parked at Sedo.

Well, I guess if the expectation is to get a lot of $20 bids...it seems to be working. Just seems like a frustrating exercise to me.

esdiel · Oct 16, 2020

aactive said:
Just seems like a frustrating exercise to me.

The expectation or objective isn't to get $20 offers, it's to reel in any offer/interest there might be out there. I get a lot of different offers and have made a few decent sales, but yes it does indeed invite a lot of lowballs.

And it's only frustrating if you let it bother you. You don't have to always respond to the lowballs either. You can just ignore them until they make a better offer, while taking note of it.

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

aactive said:
Couldn't you avoid all the irritation and drama and just set minimum bids/offers?

Of course, but I use GD like many others, as a way to gauge potential demand and even make a few sales here and there. Use each domain sales option (Sedo, GD, Afternic, Dan, etc.) in a different way, otherwise you're just duplicating your effort.

It used to bug me, but now I just find it a combination of amusing and advantageous to an eventual sale. The more bids, the closer the sale, at least in my experience.

I was out at lunch today and got 3 more $20 offers while I was driving - the game's afoot!

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

And the best part about lowball initial offers is that every once in a while you get back a highball offer that turns into an easy sale.

Everyone's cheap these days, especially businesses.

P.S. I couldn't imagine RLM putting all his domains on GD at a $20 offer - the sheer volume would probably melt down his email server.

Lachinoiserie · Oct 16, 2020

Sellers are offering this at DAN:

f=1==this .ca
stcw-f .ca
e[28]=a .ca
3-gis. ca

Am I missing something here? Do you understand what they are trying to achieve? (Apart from confusing me.)

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

I think they are trying to go bankrupt. And winning!

What they are actually trying to do is duplicate low-end .COM company sites (that no one would own if it wasn't .COM) and sell them the .CA alt.

That crap is right up there with dotseaeh.ca

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

DomainRecap said:
I was out at lunch today and got 3 more $20 offers while I was driving - the game's afoot!

And... Silence.

The least the lowballers could do is raise their offers by $1 and up my bid count.

Spex · Oct 16, 2020

Lachinoiserie said:
Sellers are offering this at DAN:

f=1==this .ca
stcw-f .ca
e[28]=a .ca
3-gis. ca

Am I missing something here? Do you understand what they are trying to achieve? (Apart from confusing me.)

Can you even have some of these characters in a domain name? WTF is "=" and "[ ]" supposed to do?

DomainRecap · Oct 16, 2020

Spex said:
Can you even have some of these characters in a domain name? WTF is "=" and "[ ]" supposed to do?

Not in an official domain, but I just assumed they were some IDN. French hack, or weird translation.

It looks like it's just pure SPAM, as the (cough) seller's bio shows this:

Hi, I am Isha Basu Providing 24*7 Female Escorts Service in Mumbai at a low price. You can book our website given below…. [website URL]

Lachinoiserie · Oct 16, 2020

DomainRecap said:
Not in an official domain, but I just assumed they were some IDN. French hack, or weird translation.

It looks like it's just pure SPAM, as the (cough) seller's bio shows this:

Hi, I am Isha Basu Providing 24*7 Female Escorts Service in Mumbai at a low price. You can book our website given below…. {website URL]

DAN's verification process / script seems very efficient..

Spex · Oct 17, 2020

DomainRecap said:
Not in an official domain, but I just assumed they were some IDN. French hack, or weird translation.

It looks like it's just pure SPAM, as the (cough) seller's bio shows this:

Hi, I am Isha Basu Providing 24*7 Female Escorts Service in Mumbai at a low price. You can book our website given below…. [website URL]

Man, that's a lot of work just to spam people

DomainRecap · Oct 17, 2020

Spex said:
Man, that's a lot of work just to spam people

Not as much work as their real occupation.

rlm · Oct 17, 2020

rlm said:
Question/Poll:

This very rarely happens to me, but it does occasionally happen. Now I have to decide, am I going to be a push-over nice guy? Or a hard-ass capitalist? Or something between?

A just acquired TBR received an inquiry from the previous owner who forgot to renew it - blaming godaddy. It is a long time verifiable owner, but the domain was just redirected to their primary domain, which is a similar two-word variation. So it's not critical for them, but it is the one-word base of their 2-word domain they primarily use.

The domain is generic enough and has legit other uses, so they would not win a CDRP, but at the same time, the domain isn't super valuable to me either, with typical but clearly long-term chances of a sale. I'd have normally priced it at $5K, and I have maybe a few hundred dollar investment in it.

I'm just curious how the rest of you would handle this. Would you:

a) set a higher price than you would have since you have a clearly interested party.
b) set the same price you would have anyways and treat this guy like you would anyone else.
c) offer to cut the price in half due to the situation and be happy for the quick flip.
d) sell it at cost plus a very nominal return (say a couple hundred) - just for your time.
e) sell it at cost and be a nice guy.

Update (these are all paraphrased):

Them: How much?
Me: $5K.
Them: "we just lost it due to godaddy, would you sell it back for a reasonable price?"
Me: I responded with "Well, my quoted price is reasonable, however, I understand your situation, hopefully we can come up with a compromise. What would reasonable mean to you?"
Them: My marketing team said $1500
Me: I said, ok, I'll accept that, send me your details, I'll send you an invoice. BTW, your products look delicious, are they distributed in BC? I would love to try some.

So I dropped the hint to send me some free product, we'll see just how appreciative they are.

Considering they had to "consult their marketing team", I feel like I should've just stuck to my initial price as it wasn't exactly a bank breaker at $5K. But in any case, I just decided to go for the good karma route.

nafti · Oct 17, 2020

What kind of products do they sell? I would have chosen “D”.

I had a similar domain a few years ago with “dateacanadian”. The previous owner forgot to renew it. Shortly after I acquired it, I received an email from him. He told me the situation. I believe he already had the .com. I ended up selling him back the .ca and made very little on it. Sometimes it’s not always about money. I don’t either the .com or .ca evolves anymore.

rlm · Oct 17, 2020

nafti said:
What kind of products do they sell? I would have chosen “D”.

Delicious ones.

Everything is truly relative so I think in these cases it really depends on the situation. On one end, if Google accidentally let "search.ca" drop (let's say they owned it and was redirecting it to google.ca), and I got it in TBR, would I sell it back for cost? Uhhhh, hard no. If it was truly a mom-and-pop-shop on a mediocre value name that was vital to their business? Sell @ cost. Everything else is going to fall somewhere in between and I don't think there are any hard lines. This being a 60 year old biz that distributes across North America with over $30M in revenues, I wasn't feeling too bad about make a little profit. I liked the "what's reasonable mean to you?" type of response allowing them to make an offer. I think that was more than fair in this instance. Now had they offered $xx, well, then it would have been a different story (I paid $xxx). Thankfully it didn't have to go there.

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