information Just Sold a TM name today

johnn · Oct 15, 2020

I own an .org name and the name was registered in 2008.
I got an email from a man saying he owns the trademark of my name and wanted me to hand the name to him or he is going to file for UDRP.
After checking I see that he filed the TM 5 months ago on 04/2020.
I told him that the name was registered before his filing for TM and he has no leg to stand even if he files UDRP. Beside it's going to cost him money.
So I gave him 2 options: Go ahead and file or buy the name from me as I am not a CyberSquatter who registered the name AFTER seeing his TM.
After a couple emails back and forth he agreed to buy the name. The money is in my bank now.
It's a small transaction under $100K

Know Your Rights and Don't let the Bad Boy Scare You!

Primary Names · Oct 16, 2020

Congrats @johnn.

Phenomenal for a dotorg. This wud easily be one of the top org sales. Unable to understand the connection of music genre with a dotorg though.

bulkdomainz · Oct 16, 2020

That's one very good 'small transaction'!

Congrats!

TauseefKhan · Oct 16, 2020

@johnn many congrats!
we have discussed a lot on trademarks in this forum. And, I think you've used your knowledge to the best of your advantage. Thanks

vindo · Oct 17, 2020

jiy k said:
Great Sir, The last line is very encouraging. If someone gets a mail like this many wouldn't know how to deal with this. Thanks for the insight.
Your website Wesellname is too good. How did you design it. Its Clean and Simple.

Indeed, his website is very clean and search friendly but it says "Not Secure". I think something is happening there with SSL certificates.

Anyways, Congrats @johnn for the sale and thanks for sharing.

lock · Oct 17, 2020

You're smashing it this year @johnn

Lakshan · Oct 17, 2020

Wow. Awsome sale. Congrats

TheBuyerz · Oct 17, 2020

Nice one, congrats.

blogspotter · Oct 17, 2020

May I borrow your balls for a bit

iAdam · Oct 18, 2020

Congratulations @johnn

1Darko · Oct 18, 2020

Great sale and great humor - thanks!

johnn · Oct 18, 2020

I received a lot of private messages asked me to:
- Brokerage your domain
- Advice on Legal TM issues
- Trying to sell your name to me
- Ask me how can you sell your name.
I am only sharing the story based on my situation.
I am still leaning everyday and if you notice:
- I never post or provide appraisal
- I am not qualified to provide brokerage services
- If I want to buy your name I will contact you - don't need to send PM
- I am not a Lawyer and cannot answer your legal questions - Consult your Attorney.

Thank You for Your Understanding.

Yawz · Oct 18, 2020

Thank you for sharing, we really do need these kind of real life inspirations to wait.

Dotorium · Oct 18, 2020

Great thanks for sharing

Joe N · Oct 18, 2020

Congratulations on the sale @johnn

It's important, though, to clarify that a TM holder's right to a domain name has nothing to do with when they registered the TM. It has more to do with how the domain is being used and when that use started (compared to the commercial ventures of the TM company).

I think this is a crucial distinction. Domainers should not feel safe to advertise/sell products and services under a domain name that has been trademarked for a similar use simply because they owned the name before the TM was registered.

alcy · Oct 18, 2020

johnn said:
I received a lot of private messages asked me to:
- Brokerage your domain
- Advice on Legal TM issues
- Trying to sell your name to me
- Ask me how can you sell your name.
I am only sharing the story based on my situation.
I am still leaning everyday and if you notice:
- I never post or provide appraisal
- I am not qualified to provide brokerage services
- If I want to buy your name I will contact you - don't need to send PM
- I am not a Lawyer and cannot answer your legal questions - Consult your Attorney.

Thank You for Your Understanding.

maybe what really made people email ya and think u are offspring of fallen Gods is when u said around 100k is small money

Michael Ehrhardt · Oct 18, 2020

as I said many times

A TM is a stupid invention from stupid people

THX

Beep.IM · Oct 18, 2020

Show em' how it's done! Congrats. Always good to hear a success story.

NickB · Oct 18, 2020

Michael Ehrhardt said:
as I said many times

A TM is a stupid invention from stupid people

THX

Soo.....

If you own a business a trademark will help with.....

Brand Protection - think about all the years of hard work that has been put into your business and how people engage with your Brand and the perception it creates......

Reputation - Potential Investment into your company, known as being trustworthy, reliable, good quality etc

and the profits that can be generated from the above....

Then some lazy idiot comes along after you have built a strong, profitable and sustainable company and decides to squat on your hard work and try and make a few quid from it and that company is stupid for wanting to protect it's rights?

Get a grip.......

Edit

What @johnn has done is not infringe on any TM - you saying that any TM is stupid....is well......stupid

hollywood · Oct 18, 2020

What other defense is there beside trademark? Is there a better way?

branding · Oct 18, 2020

NickB said:
Soo.....

If you own a business a trademark will help with.....

Brand Protection - think about all the years of hard work that has been put into your business and how people engage with your Brand and the perception it creates......

Reputation - Potential Investment into your company, known as being trustworthy, reliable, good quality etc

and the profits that can be generated from the above....

Then some lazy idiot comes along after you have built a strong, profitable and sustainable company and decides to squat on your hard work and try and make a few quid from it and that company is stupid for wanting to protect it's rights?

Get a grip.......

Edit

What @johnn has done is not infringe on any TM - you saying that any TM is stupid....is well......stupid

Well put. I'd like to add that TMs are actually designed to protect both the business and consumer. When I buy an apple phone, I want to be sure it's a quality phone, produced by apple. Not a cheap knock-off. It works both ways.

As a domainer, the mere fact TMs exist actually make my domains more valuable. What's not to like about them?

Don't feel scared/intimidated by TMs but read, learn and make it work in your advantage. That's what OP is saying with his post. Plus bragging about his > $1 sale

trap3 · Oct 19, 2020

btw everyone.....

He said under $100k.
That could mean $50

Michael Ehrhardt · Oct 19, 2020

NickB said:
Soo.....

If you own a business a trademark will help with.....

Brand Protection - think about all the years of hard work that has been put into your business and how people engage with your Brand and the perception it creates......

Reputation - Potential Investment into your company, known as being trustworthy, reliable, good quality etc

and the profits that can be generated from the above....

Then some lazy idiot comes along after you have built a strong, profitable and sustainable company and decides to squat on your hard work and try and make a few quid from it and that company is stupid for wanting to protect it's rights?

Get a grip.......

Edit

What @johnn has done is not infringe on any TM - you saying that any TM is stupid....is well......stupid

A TM is an Invention from people correct ?
First : for what do we need a brand ?

Michael Ehrhardt · Oct 19, 2020

There are more than 500 TM,s for Coffee

hollywood · Oct 19, 2020

Michael Ehrhardt said:
There are more than 500 TM,s for Coffee

First you need to use your own picture in your profile. Then you will begin to understand what a trademark is.

Michael Ehrhardt · Oct 19, 2020

hollywood said:
First you need to use your own picture in your profile. Then you will begin to understand what a trademark is.

This is my foto

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