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How well do the Afternic ns3/ns4 sales lander pages convert?

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I always sell my names with reasonable BIN pricing, with no lesser minimum bid allowed. It's worked very, very well for me, for names priced between $750 - $10,000. I have most of the names resolving to a Sedo BIN landing page with no ads (which I want), and some forwarded to the Afternic sales page for the domain. (All my names are at Godaddy.) Sedo is giving me way to many bogus "sales" that aren't real and get canceled, so I looking at pointing more names to Afternic, which I'm happy with (sales never fall through).

However, Afternic/Godaddy is telling me that their research shows that they sell significantly more names for people who use their nameservers ns3.afternic.com and ns4.afternic.com which lands on a "price request" page that looks like the image I've included at the bottom of this post.

Along with using these nameservers, they also want me to create a minimum bid amount, reserve price and floor price.

I could see how this might work better for names that domainers price unrealistically high (most). But for names like mine that are mostly priced between $750 - $5,000, I really question this. Because, 1) once people start bidding at a lower price, it's difficult to get them up more than halfway to the full BIN price, 2) having to put your phone number in the form is off-putting (to me at least), and 3) maybe it's just me, but when I see a page like this I think the price is going to be very high since they won't show it.

I might just try it with the hundred or so names that I do have priced higher than $5,000 and see what happens.

But I'd love to hear the opinions of others here on this subject? Do these "request price" pages work better than BIN pages?

FYI: they will not entertain the idea of creating a landing page that shows the BIN price on it. I have to do a Forward to the afternic BIN page, which is a pain when you have a lot of names. Plus, even if the minimum bid is equal to the BIN price, they insist on showing the minimum bid field still, which looks odd.
 

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Understand people have no idea what is the domain market.
Talking to GoDaddy and getting a price from GoDaddy is a big advantage imo..
VS having to figure out an offer on something you don't understand.

Worse, talking to a random seller.
If your contact and public profile is clear, and people can see that you are a real, known professional dealing in domain names, then you are good.

Impulse buyers work yes, but make sure your bin pricing is good and not mostly speculative.

I don't think you read what I said : There is no price for impulse buyers to be impulsive?
 
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I listed some names on afternic and set the name servers to ns3 and ns4 landers. I do like the landers but don't like the fact that a buy it now is not displayed on the landers.
So if a buyer were to accept (on impulse) my BIN price ,when they did a direct type in on the name, it will not happen because the option is not there for them to do so.
Now they need to fill a form out or call to find out a price.
They may search the name on afternic or partners to find out the BIN price. In doing so they are welcomed to a bunch of alternative names and extensions to choose from beside my name.
This may sway ,what could have been an impulse purchase away from my name.
It gives a buyer something to think about when alternative names are displayed.
Doesn't help the sellers with those impulse buyers imo

I will leave it be for now to test but may be switching landers back to DAN in the near future. I like the options of having BIN price and pay in installments displayed on the landers.

Just my opinions
 
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https://www.godaddy.com/garage/tips-for-how-to-sell-your-domain-name-on-afternic/

This article was originally published by Joe Styler in 2017 and updated last month by Alan Shiflett (Director for the Aftermarket at GoDaddy ) to sales landers contact page with BIN prices and it is here they recommend NS3,NS4 to achieve that.

But of course we know that the contact page does not show BIN prices so it appears that Alan Shillet does not know this?

Perhaps he would like to comment?
 
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https://www.godaddy.com/garage/tips-for-how-to-sell-your-domain-name-on-afternic/

This article was originally published by Joe Styler in 2017 and updated last month by Alan Shiflett (Director for the Aftermarket at GoDaddy ) to sales landers contact page with BIN prices and it is here they recommend NS3,NS4 to achieve that.

But of course we know that the contact page does not show BIN prices so it appears that Alan Shillet does not know this?

Perhaps he would like to comment?
@Joe Styler please?
 
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I no longer point any of my names to Afternic. I have my names listed there, and I still sell many Godaddy-registered names (all my names are there) through Afternic (via Godaddy and partners as people try to register and get the upsell); however, I now point all my names to DAN.com (previously Undeveloped.com) BIN pages--very happy with this.
Hi! It would be great to see your sales report on the topic where people share their sales! Also I would like to know some information about what kind of domains you have more success? Is they good keywords, brandable etc. Thanks!
 
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(still not able to list from domain manager within GD).
I found you have to log out and in.
Then things work.
Sometimes after a while (1 hour for example) you are able to browse your account and all, but in reality you are logged out and you cannot perform certain actions such as listing domains from the new manager.
So you have to log out, and in.
 
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I prefer ns3.afternic.com and ns4.afternic.com because Afternic gives more exposure to your domains while domain searches on platforms like expireddomains.net. Does Dan provide any such exposure? I may be wrong. Please correct if it is.
 
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I prefer ns3.afternic.com and ns4.afternic.com because Afternic gives more exposure to your domains while domain searches on platforms like expireddomains.net. Does Dan provide any such exposure? I may be wrong. Please correct if it is.
Afternic does give exposure as you suggest, BUT without having to change the nameservers to them. All I have to do is list the names registered at Godaddy or a participating registrar. Here's what they say:

Afternic gets your domain in front of buyers all over the world. Every domain listed with us is promoted as a Manual Transfer domain. But making your domain a Fast-transfer domain gives it an extra level of exposure. Fast-transfer domains reach 75 million+ potential buyers each month and generate the highest average sales price. Fast-transfer is available for .com, .net, .org, .de, .biz, .pw and .info domain names that have a buy now price set. The maximum price is $100000. The domain must also be registered with a supporting registrar.

So I have the best of both worlds. I have my nameservers set to DAN so I get their wonderful sales pages, sale options, great service and 9% sales commission. And then I make a ton of sales through Afternic as the names are promoted in their network (and when someone tries to register a name I own it will give them the price to buy).

I just looked at the last 20 names I've sold and and 10 are through Afternic, 9 are through DAN and 1 is from Sedo.
 
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I did change my servers to Afternic ns3 and ns4 landers and as you said I don't get any traffic stats. Why Afternic is not fixing this?
 
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I did change my servers to Afternic ns3 and ns4 landers and as you said I don't get any traffic stats. Why Afternic is not fixing this?
Overall, Afternic is horrible for doing anything to improve their site. I've been telling them for years that they need 2FA, for example, nothing. And so many pages in admin are not accurate.
 
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Wow I've been using the ns4 ns3 afternic nameservers for two weeks or so..no sales yet and i have no clue about stats or inquiries. It's a short time to tell, but the feedback, seems to sway away from using it..no success stories with it, despite the Godaddy logo.

I may have to go back to Dan...

Squadhelp whitelabel is cool too, but may take time to build trust.
 
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It's all about the quality of domains you have, I believe.

Ever since I switched all domains to Afternic, sales flood gates have opened and having a really good month. Sold a bunch of domains already.

For higher value domains, the Afternic sales process brings trust and therefore improves conversion by a large margin due to their 24/7 phone reps. I've been losing money listing elsewhere for so long.

Note: I'm currently using my own landers but redirecting to their BIN lander, as in www.afternic.com/makeoffer/mydomain.com. This page shows both BIN and make offer numbers, plus the phone numbers to call. Those phone numbers are the ones that do the trick.
 
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It's all about the quality of domains you have, I believe.

Ever since I switched all domains to Afternic, sales flood gates have opened and having a really good month. Sold a bunch of domains already.

For higher value domains, the Afternic sales process brings trust and therefore improves conversion by a large margin due to their 24/7 phone reps. I've been losing money listing elsewhere for so long.

Note: I'm currently using my own landers but redirecting to their BIN lander, as in www.afternic.com/makeoffer/mydomain.com. This page shows both BIN and make offer numbers, plus the phone numbers to call. Those phone numbers are the ones that do the trick.

What's an example?

I literally just moved my names from afternic nameservers back to dan...

It's weird that you make the buyer go from one landing page to another landing p[age..

Also, you afternic bin forwarding page isn't the same as the ns3 and 4 pages with the forms..
 
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It's all about the quality of domains you have, I believe.

Ever since I switched all domains to Afternic, sales flood gates have opened and having a really good month. Sold a bunch of domains already.

For higher value domains, the Afternic sales process brings trust and therefore improves conversion by a large margin due to their 24/7 phone reps. I've been losing money listing elsewhere for so long.

Note: I'm currently using my own landers but redirecting to their BIN lander, as in www.afternic.com/makeoffer/mydomain.com. This page shows both BIN and make offer numbers, plus the phone numbers to call. Those phone numbers are the ones that do the trick.
Is there a way to get those afternic bin pages in bulk?
That would be warying to forward them one by one...
 
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Just like to point out that the title is whether NS3/NS4 convert, not whether in general Afternic is a sales platform with reasonable sales.

I don't understand Afternic resistance to allow the seller (it is their domain, right?) to choose an option of whether they want the BIN price displayed with instant purchase link or not. The answer is always that they have research that it converts better without price, but other platforms claim research showing the opposite, so why not leave it to the actual owner of the domain name to choose?
Note: I'm currently using my own landers but redirecting to their BIN lander, as in www.afternic.com/makeoffer/mydomain.com. This page shows both BIN and make offer numbers, plus the phone numbers to call. Those phone numbers are the ones that do the trick.
As @twiki mentions, there is an option that allow you to show BIN prices via forwarding to the URL with the price, but I would like the visual look of NS3/NS4, but just with a BIN price and instant purchase link added.

I like the 24 hr agents of Afternic, and the authority of the GD association, just wish they would let me choose an attractive lander with a BIN.

Bob
 
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Is there a way to get those afternic bin pages in bulk?
That would be warying to forward them one by one...

Yes there is, but not one ready made out there. Let me tell you how I do it.

I'm using a server with a catch-all setting. Whatever is the hostname requested, it builds the url and redirects them to the corresponding landing page on Afternic.

All you need to do is to add an "A" record with the domains to post to the VPS server's IP. You can easily do that setting in bulk, with any registrar.

I might do this as a service next if there are users needing it, for just a few bucks per month. Not really looking to make money this way (have other better means, including domaining) but rather to pay for the server and especially and for the maintenance time it will definitely need. If you're interested, please shoot me a PM.

Side note it can also include a lander OR redirect directly to Afternic. I'm using the first method, as I get some good negotiations as well. If your domain isn't yet available on Afternic for whavever reason (pending verification for example) you get the offer directly from the buyer. The lander also has an Escrow buy option (some buyers wanted it though painful, to save monies on their domain as I discount them the rather signficant fee difference).
 
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Is there a way to get those afternic bin pages in bulk?
That would be warying to forward them one by one...

Actually I'm considering offering the lander 100% free to forum members. And to embed it with a free marketplace as well, where end sales can be made with the venue of your choice, including Afternic, Escrow, Dan etc but you can communicate directly with the buyer as well. The simple but effective kind.

Will think about this a bit next. Too many forum members have lander and redirect issues and it shouldn't be that complicated.
 
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@twiki how do you use lander and redirect to afternic at the same time? Its either lander or redirect.. do you have an example?

Redirect is straight forward you dont need server for that, you can do it in most registerars for free. Also I dont get this part.
 
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Just like to point out that the title is whether NS3/NS4 convert, not whether in general Afternic is a sales platform with reasonable sales.

I don't understand Afternic resistance to allow the seller (it is their domain, right?) to choose an option of whether they want the BIN price displayed with instant purchase link or not. The answer is always that they have research that it converts better without price, but other platforms claim research showing the opposite, so why not leave it to the actual owner of the domain name to choose?

I don't too. Maybe they are worried about endusers could not understand the price? I think that if that is the case, buy now could have a limit, lets say up to 5k. Above that make offer.

Also below the price could be a text that would say something like: About the price: the domain is registered and this is the owner's asking price

Anyway I think buy now option without limit and with an explanation is better
 
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@twiki how do you use lander and redirect to afternic at the same time? Its either lander or redirect.. do you have an example?

Redirect is straight forward you dont need server for that, you can do it in most registerars for free. Also I dont get this part.

When you have thousands of domains to redirect, like I do, it becomes unmanageable. This is why I use this server. It makes things simple as you only set the domain and use the same configuration for all, instead of having to set the url for each. I'm currently buying 10-20 domains per day so it would be criminal.

The second part: redirect. You can either redirect (via the catch-all server, again for no custom config) or use the lander and have a buy button to afternic + custom form. I'm using the latter currently as it gives the best of all worlds. It also keeps the domain indexed in Google, more hits, good title and description. So it depends on what you want to accomplish.
 
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Actually I'm going to launch a free service that does this, shortly. For our forum members. Possibly in a week or two max.
 
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