To Mask or not To Mask... is there even a question?

AbdulBasit.com said:

Your right to breathe is the most basic human right imaginable... and a corrupt government is now trying to remove that. It's time we remove government before they tell us we're not permitted to breathe at all.

Holocaust right around the corner if more people don't wake up. We are not danger to others. Corrupt government is the only danger.

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I really respect you @AbdulBasit.com

but this post is utter nonsense
maybe you use the wrong mask

the mask I use lets me breathe with ease
all dentist in Germany wear these masks since ages
day in day out
while treating patients
same is true from many other health care workers

to remove governments
is a very different topic
has nothing to do with masks at all

maybe your government should be removed
-I know nothing about your government-
my government has done an astoundingly great job-
I was not a fan of them before corona but now I think of them with respect.

Holocaust
-well, you seem to know nothing about it-
not the right term to be used here

you indeed are a potential danger to other people
w/o your knowledge
me too

and I find it easy to accept
and act accordingly

I have a hard time to accept all this nonsense
by you guys who think differently

JB Lions said:

I'll use what I posted elsewhere, all the anti-maskers can tackle this one. Simple A or B

In the middle of a pandemic, let's use a drastic example:

A. nobody wearing a mask

B. everybody wearing a mask

Which will lead to more health issues, deaths, a worse economy?

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A?

frank-germany said:

I really respect you @AbdulBasit.com


all dentist in Germany wear these masks since ages

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Indeed dentists wear masks. Standard practice.

This is so their bacteria and whatever else may be in their mouth doesn't fall into the open mouths of their patients.

The masks are not designed to prevent viral transmission. This is nothing new.

This fact has been mentioned on the mask boxes for years.
And also is common knowledge in the medical field.

And even today the manufacturers have updated their boxes:

Compassion said:

No theories Keith.

Basic basic basic scientific fact.

O2
CO2

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Although I disagree with 99% of your posts but I will partially agree with the O2 part, because I am an honest person.

I will talk about my own experience: wearing a mask for long period didnt affect me at all "if I dont do extra physical effort" like for example slow walking, driving..etc I will be fine. But if I do extra physical effort that requires fast breathing then I struggle wearing a mask especially in hot humid weather, in several occasions I walked with friends (fast walking) for long distance (2+ hours) after which I felt very tired and had headache. Lesson learned for me is that masks do not go well with physical activities that require fast breathing.

That being said I strongly recommend to wear masks especially indoors when you are with other people, because masks are our only weapon against this virus for now.

Compassion said:

Indeed dentists wear masks. Standard practice.

This is so their bacteria and whatever else may be in their mouth doesn't fall into the open mouths of their patients.

The masks are not designed to prevent viral transmission. This is nothing new.

This fact has been mentioned on the mask boxes for years.
And also is common knowledge in the medical field.

And even today the manufacturers have updated their boxes:

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you got the point.

masks protect OTHERS

use them

Trying sweating and wearing eye-protection for a living.. outdoors in 37 degree Celsius. Essential services, critical communications.. so much more, and wearing a mask. To protect YOU. Yeh, right. News-break: Protect yourself, stay at home. Until there is a vaccine.

Oh. Sorry. You wanted to go out shopping for clothes? Need to go to a restaurant? Have to go get a cappuccino?

That's the real question. Why are we leaving our home during a pandemic? Masks, no masks, blah blah, Again. Why are you leaving your homes, if so concerned?

Don't put the onus on others right for fresh, unadulterated air, for your own "safety". I'm all for wearing masks in close indoor quarters, ie, doctors appt's, groceries, but really, if we can see beyond our own wants, maybe we can understand the difference between that, and what is needed. Just during a pandemic, mind you.

It's like bad drivers, thinking they can get away with running reds or stop signs or advance greens because everyone else will watch out for them.

This actually could be an excellent opportunity for a rebuild of our world's infrastructure. Out of a job? Boots to ground, shovel to dirt. But we choose instead to argue and judge: masks vs no masks.

frank-germany said:

you got the point.

masks protect OTHERS

use them

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***Protection from bacterial infection***

Compassion said:

***Protection from bacterial infection***

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so you get the point, great

-I do know that a virus is not a bacteria-

Ostrados said:

That being said I strongly recommend to wear masks especially indoors when you are with other people, because masks are our only weapon against this virus for now.

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So you admit your breathing is compromised while wearing a mask? Thank you.


Our immune systems are the best weapons against pathogenic invasions. This fact is always true and won't change no matter who tries to spin a contrived reality as actuality.

Compassion said:

So you admit your breathing is compromised while wearing a mask? Thank you..

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Only when doing physical activities
Otherwise no excuses for not wearing a mask (ex: office meeting, shopping..etc).

Compassion said:

Our immune systems are the best weapons against pathogenic invasions. This fact is always true and won't change no matter who tries to spin a contrived reality as actuality.

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you are right.

but you forget
that our immune system has no means
to fight this virus

building immunity against bacteria while eating dirt works only when you are about 4 years old.

frank-germany said:

you are right.

but you forget
that our immune system has no means
to fight this virus

building immunity against bacteria while eating dirt works only when you are about 4 years old.

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How much medical training and how much clinical experience do you and Ostrados have? ......?

Compassion said:

How much medical training and how much clinical experience do you and Ostrados have? ......?

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what are you asking?

looking for proof?
you won't believe it anyway

frank-germany said:

what are you asking?

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Like have you ever dissected a cadaver?
Ever taken a Human Physiology class?
Do you have any medical degrees?
Have you ever had a white coat on where people come to you and pay you for healing?
etc.

frank-germany said:

you are right.

but you forget
that our immune system has no means
to fight this virus

building immunity against bacteria while eating dirt works only when you are about 4 years old.

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we may all be screwed Frank, This stuff is spreading at warp speed here in Texas and our temps have been 97 + degrees for a while now, If it can live in this climate it ain't going anywhere

Compassion said:

So you admit your breathing is compromised while wearing a mask? Thank you.


Our immune systems are the best weapons against pathogenic invasions. This fact is always true and won't change no matter who tries to spin a contrived reality as actuality.

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Breathing is absolutely not compromised by a mask or even wearing 3 at the same time. Your oxygen level is the same regardless of no mask or multiple masks

.X. said:

we may all be screwed Frank, This stuff is spreading at warp speed here in Texas and our temps have been 97 + degrees for a while now, If it can live in this climate it ain't going anywhere

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be careful
it's no joke

I feel with you

Compassion said:

Like have you ever dissected a cadaver?
Ever taken a Human Physiology class?
Do you have any medical degrees?
Have you ever had a white coat on where people come to you and pay you for healing?
etc.

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no

but you know what
I can read

.X. said:

we may all be screwed Frank, This stuff is spreading at warp speed here in Texas and our temps have been 97 + degrees for a while now, If it can live in this climate it ain't going anywhere

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Why the panic?

Viruses lose virulence in hot weather.


< 3000 deaths in Texas.

frank-germany said:

no

but you know what
I can read

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There is no substitute for experience.

Compassion said:

Why the panic?

Viruses lose virulence in hot weather.


< 3000 deaths in Texas.

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its obvious they don't

man open your eyes

frank-germany said:

its obvious they don't

man open your eyes

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My eyes are open.

All three of them.

Compassion said:

There is no substitute for experience.

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let us be part of your corona experience then

Compassion said:

Why the panic?

Viruses lose virulence in hot weather.


< 3000 deaths in Texas.

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no panic at all, i have never panicked since it all began, we will be hitting the 100's in temp this weekend, factor our humidity in and a medical mask is damn near brutal outside, we have spiking cases and deaths right now in Texas, but it is what it is, however it all ends up i am just going to live and keep on keeping on until i croak lol

Compassion said:

My eyes are open.

All three of them.

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now activate your brain