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Having relatives and friends scattered all over the globe, I am getting an overload of input (some on the record and some off the record).

My intention for this thread is for community members from around the world to post first hand stories and/or links to information sources that, for the most part, should be reliable.

In my community, just outside a major southeastern city, 'assets' have been placed. Only because I have friends in both high and low places have I heard about some of this. At this point it is only some basic medical supplies that should be equally distributed anyway in preparation for a natural emergency (hurricane/wildfire/etc.).

I will start with posting a link to a site with current data that seems to come from an aggregate of sources and hope others will do the same as they come across similar sites/pages.

Because of the 'typhoid Mary' spread-ability of this disease, I feel we may be in for a really large spread globally which will impact the global economy and through extension, retail domain prices.

One thing is for sure...things will get worse before they get better.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa-coronavirus/
 
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8094933/How-one-man-spread-coronavirus-NINE-people-bus.html

How one man spread coronavirus to NINE other people on his bus in China: Scientists find the deadly virus can travel four times the 'safe' distance and linger in the air for over 30 minutes in confined places

"A man infected with coronavirus spread the virus to nine other people on his bus, raising fears the killer infection can jump between people far easier than initially thought in confined places."
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/health/airflow-coronavirus-restaurants.html

In January, at a restaurant in Guangzhou, China, one diner infected with the novel coronavirus but not yet feeling sick appeared to have spread the disease to nine other people. One of the restaurant’s air-conditioners apparently blew the virus particles around the dining room.

“We conclude that in this outbreak, droplet transmission was prompted by air-conditioned ventilation,” the authors wrote. “The key factor for infection was the direction of the airflow.”


https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article


However, none of the staff or other diners in restaurant X were infected. Moreover, the smear samples from the air conditioner were all nucleotide negative. This finding is less consistent with aerosol transmission. However, aerosols would tend to follow the airflow, and the lower concentrations of aerosols at greater distances might have been insufficient to cause infection in other parts of the restaurant.
 
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https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article


However, none of the staff or other diners in restaurant X were infected. Moreover, the smear samples from the air conditioner were all nucleotide negative. This finding is less consistent with aerosol transmission. However, aerosols would tend to follow the airflow, and the lower concentrations of aerosols at greater distances might have been insufficient to cause infection in other parts of the restaurant.

"We conclude that in this outbreak, droplet transmission was prompted by air-conditioned ventilation. The key factor for infection was the direction of the airflow."
Well, I guess those tiny droplets were airborne all over the restaurant and the bus, just following the air direction.
 
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Dr Kelly Victory Lays Out The Truth And The Facts
 
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Current Covid19 death numbers as of 8:00 am EST are below, primarily from the source in the original post (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus). If your country of interest is not listed below, simply go to the link above to do a search for relevant information.

Total: 537,442
United States: 132,610
United Kingdom: 44,220
Canada: 8,684
Mexico: 30,639
Brazil: 64,900
Russia: 10,296
India: 19,714
Japan : 977
Indonesia: 3,241
Italy: 34,861
Spain: 28,385
Belgium: 9,771
France: 29,893
Netherlands: 6,127
 
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Spain's coronavirus antibodies study adds evidence against herd immunity

Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday.

The findings show that 95% of Spain's population remains susceptible to the virus. Herd immunity is achieved when enough of a population has become infected with a virus or bacteria -- or vaccinated against it -- to stop its circulation.



 
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Coronavirus can live for four days on animal skin: US military study

The novel coronavirus can live for days on animal skin, according to researchers from the biggest US military bioweapons laboratory.
In Fort Detrick, Maryland, army researchers tested the virus on the surface of various substances, including uncirculated paper currency supplied by the US Secret Service and unused cotton-polyester fabric, according to a non-peer-reviewed paper posted on the preprint site medRxiv.org on Friday.

They found that of the samples, the virus could survive the longest at room temperature on pig skin – up to four days. And it remained stable on the skin in refrigerated temperatures throughout the two-week experiment.



 
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Senator Scott Jensen MD and Data
 
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Australia Closes Interstate Border Because Of Coronavirus Outbreak

The border between Australian states Victoria and New South Wales will close because of a spike in coronavirus cases, officials announced on Monday.

Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews said the closure is for an undetermined period.

Victoria, whose capital city is Melbourne, has logged 127 confirmed cases in the last 24 hours, which accounts for more than 90% of Australia's infections during that period, according to national data.


https://www.npr.org/2020/07/06/8876...rstate-border-because-of-coronavirus-outbreak

The virus seems to be exploding worldwide.
 
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Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday.

I could not find the word "unachievable" in Lancet. This is all I could find that mentioned herd immunity. Quote from article from Lancet:

"At present, herd immunity is difficult to achieve without accepting the collateral damage of many deaths in the susceptible population and overburdening of health systems. "

And that is why the susceptible population should remain in isolation until herd immunity is achieved. But the rest of the population needs to go back to work. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail, and doctors are hammers. They would happily let us all starve to death locked in our homes.

And this Lancet quote says why herd immunity is achievable:

"Seroprevalence was close to 90% after 14 days since a positive PCR test, which is consistent with a recent study concluding that SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibodies are detected in more than 90% of infected people 2 weeks after symptom onset,29 and the recently reported 99% of antibody response among confirmed COVID-19 cases.30 For the few patients who do not develop antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, it is unknown whether they are susceptible to reinfection.29, 31, 32 Prevalence in those participants reporting negative
PCR was higher than in those without a PCR test, which might be explained by delayed PCR testing that yields a negative result or by imperfect sensitivity of PCR tests."
 
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Current Covid19 death numbers as of 8:00 am EST are below, primarily from the source in the original post (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus). If your country of interest is not listed below, simply go to the link above to do a search for relevant information.

Total: 541,521
United States: 132,993
United Kingdom: 44,236
Canada: 8,693
Mexico: 31,119
Brazil: 65,556
Russia: 10,494
India: 20,198
Japan : 977
Indonesia: 3,309
Italy: 34,869
Spain: 28,388
Belgium: 9,774
France: 29,920
Netherlands: 6,128
 
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This morning I had to pick up a few parts for an old Ford truck I am preparing with oversize tires, cattle guard, etc and I was shocked at the people not wearing masks. In this state, county and city they are mandated. As we know, it is to protect others when we wear a mask.

I overheard the clerk telling one couple (maybe related, maybe married or both) that the store policy is to wear one. They had a few expletives for the poor guy and he was so shocked he could not get an immediate reply out. So I let them know it is like someone being a drunk driver...if you, as a drunk driver, want to drive into a tree in your own yard that is okay with me. But you do not have the right to be on the highway driving drunk and endangering the lives of others...that why we as a society are working together by wearing masks.

This moron turns and gets in my face...I let him know I felt threatened and I would only warn him once to step back...also told him if he touched me I would react accordingly. He called me a few names, grabbed his sister/wife and stormed out, knocking over a display intentionally.

The bummer is I got a whiff of his breath because he was so close...also got a hint of cheap whisky. Just as I was getting ready to let the police know a drunk driver was getting on the highway (nice long stretch that runs through a small town that HATES drunk drivers) the clerk said 'don't bother'. It turns out he had them on the phone during the whole exchange and told them the guy was drunk and which way he was headed. I doubt he will get bailed out too quickly...maybe being confined with random strangers for a day will make him rethink his position.

Tom Hanks, in first live interview since coronavirus recovery, says doing one's part is 'so simple'
"Let’s not confuse the fact, it’s killing people," Hanks said of coronavirus. "You can argue what the numbers are ... it’s killing people."

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture...-coronavirus-recovery-says-doing-one-n1233050
 
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@Mister Funsky it's funny you used the drunk driver analogy to explain to the drunk why he should be wearing a mask. So great that the clerk had him on video.
 
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So I let them know it is like someone being a drunk driver...if you, as a drunk driver, want to drive into a tree in your own yard that is okay with me. But you do not have the right to be on the highway driving drunk and endangering the lives of others...that why we as a society are working together by wearing masks.
Very good analogy. It's amazing how still there are people don't getting it. It's for those people that the mandatory of wearing mask in public must be along with a quite high fine amount for those not wearing one, so they finally can understand it.
 
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Very good analogy. It's amazing how still there are people don't getting it. It's for those people that the mandatory of wearing mask in public must be along with a quite high fine amount for those not wearing one, so they finally can understand it.


Terrible analogy comparing masks to drunk driving. (n):xf.cry::facepalm:


But you know what does help us not succumb to viral infections?

Not drinking alcohol!
Alcohol weakens the immune system.


I haven't drank alcohol for six years. Not one drink. I feel vibrant, look healthier and younger, more so than I did ten years ago and my mind and body are thanking me.

I'm also clear-headed and can easily see through deception and propaganda :xf.wink::xf.smile:
 
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U.N. Predicts Rise In Diseases That Jump From Animals To Humans Due To Habitat Loss

A new United Nations report warns that more diseases that pass from animals to humans, such as COVID-19, are likely to emerge as habitats are ravaged by wildlife exploitation, unsustainable farming practices and climate change.


These pathogens, known as zoonotic diseases, also include Ebola, MERS, HIV/AIDS and West Nile virus. They have increasingly emerged because of stresses humans have placed on animal habitats, according to the U.N. Environment Program report Preventing the Next Pandemic: Zoonotic diseases and how to break the chain of transmission, released on Monday.


https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-in-diseases-that-jump-from-animals-to-humans

This is unsettling.
 
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Not drinking alcohol!
Alcohol weakens the immune system.


I haven't drank alcohol for six years. Not one drink. I feel vibrant, look healthier and younger, more so than I did ten years ago and my mind and body are thanking me.
Agree on this. Alcohol weakens the immune system and the rest of your body, like liver and kidney.
And congrats for not having drank alcohol for six years!

But the drunk driver analogy totally works here, as you are wearing a face mask to keep safe and don't kill people around you, same as a drunk driver, that will kill not only himself, but a good family going with their car the same time and place as the drunk driver.

So, please people, think also in your neighbours and in the other good people around you, don't drive drunk, and wear a face mask when in public with other people. You can save a lot of lives by doing this. Thanks!
 
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Agree on this. Alcohol weakens the immune system and the rest of your body, like liver and kidney.
And congrats for having drank alcohol for six years!

But the drunk driver analogy totally works here, as you are wearing a face mask to keep safe and don't kill people around you, same as a drunk driver, that will kill not only himself, but a good family going with their car the same time and place as the drunk driver.

So, please people, think also in your neighbours and in the other good people around you, don't drive drunk, and wear a face mask when in public with other people. You can save a lot of lives by doing this. Thanks!


I'll defend your right to speak what you want to, but strongly disagree with your analogy.



Finally we agree on something.
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/world/coronavirus-updates.html#link-34590ce4

As the U.S. passes 3 million virus cases, Birx says that its spread among the young was unexpected.

“None of us really anticipated the amount of community spread that began in really our 18-to-35-year-old age group,” Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the Trump administration’s coronavirus response coordinator, said in a brief appearance on an Atlantic Council panel. “This is an age group that was so good and so disciplined through March and April. But when they saw people out and about on social media, they all went out and about.”

Many people from 18-to-40-year-old think they are safe and won't get sick by covid-19. Big error.
This virus is not a joke, but some people seems to don't take it too seriously.
 
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