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Hello guys ,
i tried a bunch of names on estibot , but i never have an estimation over 100 $ . its normal ? or i must have a premium subscribe ? i type the estibot .com and i have a trademark blabla red message .
what do you think vs godaddy and freevaluator ?

Thank you
 
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It doesn't matter if a domain is sold yesterday there still is the probability of a second sale never same.
The data isn't going to be influenced on previous sales that is up to the domainer to analyze or a bot would have it registered.
 
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It doesn't matter if a domain is sold yesterday there still is the probability of a second sale never same.
The data isn't going to be influenced on previous sales that is up to the domainer to analyze or a bot would have it registered.


is that "validation.site" yours?

then congrats.

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Hello guys ,
i tried a bunch of names on estibot , but i never have an estimation over 100 $ . its normal ? or i must have a premium subscribe ? i type the estibot .com and i have a trademark blabla red message .
what do you think vs godaddy and freevaluator ?

Thank you
Collectively I use appraisals from GD, FreeValuator, Estibot/Epik, Nameworth and the best one of all myself.

Of the five, i find Estibot to be a joke, and I can provide plenty of examples. As a professional in the domain name business I feel it's my obligation to use every tool available to help my clients make better decisions.
 
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That is valuation.site "where the price will be wrong but the data spot on".
It is traffic based no site equates no traffic.

I don't care for traffic
that is the job of the new owner
 
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I don't care for traffic
that is the job of the new owner
Without human intervention even then an opinion the valuation will be based on traffic as a bot can only speculate based on given factors. Godaddy will give the feel good appraisal for highest numbers.
 
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Without human intervention even then an opinion the valuation will be based on traffic as a bot can only speculate based on given factors. Godaddy will give the feel good appraisal for highest numbers.

so why do you think valuation based on traffic
gives a domainer any help
when it's about finding a price for a domain w//o much traffic
that fits end-users

-most domains have no meaningful traffic-
 
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so why do you think valuation based on traffic
gives a domainer any help
when it's about finding a price for a domain w//o much traffic
that fits end-users

-most domains have no meaningful traffic-
I don't but apart from sales history there is no other way to speculate almost every business uses data to speculate. If you had choice to buy 2 names one will out perform the other. It all isn't gospel it is a guess.
 
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I am not here to say bots get it right they don't but nobody builds a random number generator they try to put in influencing factors there isn't ever going to be a right valuation by price the words valuation survey and appraisal covers the scenario and by definition speculation.
 
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Misguiding are the tools itself. No automated tools can correctly valuate any domain. Also I believe the best valuation can be done by the domain owner and never the buyer.

While I agree the final valuation should be done by an experienced seller/buyer, some human values are off...way off, even when they have over 10 years of experience. I would have come up with a low valuation 2-3 years ago for this domain, and that is after I've been doing this for 15 years.



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Yet, in this case, as many other cases, automated intelligence got it right. I don't know about you, but I'd sure like the $50k rather than $2k-$5k that most domain experts would have priced it at.

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I designed NameWorth to value domains like I would, but doing it objectively instead of subjectively. Then the domain seller can add their own subjectivity to the price.
 
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While I agree the final valuation should be done by an experienced seller/buyer, some human values are off...way off, even when they have over 10 years of experience. I would have come up with a low valuation 2-3 years ago for this domain, and that is after I've been doing this for 15 years.



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Yet, in this case, as many other cases, automated intelligence got it right. I don't know about you, but I'd sure like the $50k rather than $2k-$5k that most domain experts would have priced it at.

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I designed NameWorth to value domains like I would, but doing it objectively instead of subjectively. Then the domain seller can add their own subjectivity to the price.

I agree with you on humans value are off sometimes which includes myself. I make mistakes and try to learn from that. That's the best we can do.

Also with such sales like Thiink.com, I believe most domain owners wouldn't have sold for that price.

The seller did great job and as I always think that everyone has their own limitations and grip of certain niches and for anyone to have complete understanding of all niches is impossible.

That's why I believe and always eager to learn something new everyday so I can improve myself.

But in short, I stick to my earlier message that the best valuation can be done by the domain owner and never the buyer. It's up to the buyer to decide if he/she wants to buy at that price.

Thanks!
 
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Yet, in this case, as many other cases, automated intelligence got it right. I don't know about you, but I'd sure like the $50k rather than $2k-$5k that most domain experts would have priced it at.

Hi

I majority of cases, they get it wrong too
and for you to say, what amount most domain experts would have priced it at... is opinion, not fact.
you know, that always depends on "who" owns it, and "who" makes an offer.

still, who tf would pay $50K for it and park it?
that doesn't make much cents to me, which makes the sale look like a wash, for now.

imo...
 
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I take no notice of either.
 
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"BIOS is firmware used to perform hardware initialization during the booting process, and to provide runtime services for operating systems and programs." Source: Wikipedia. I couldn't have put it better myself. :xf.wink:

It is a very geeky concept, now replaced by UEFI on 64 bit systems. So it has a very narrow audience and any domain name citing it is unlikely to be worth however much any "valuation" assessment software puts on it, even lower than the lowest one, unless you can find a very specific client for it. Even then, they understand a lot more about how systems work then you do and have other methods for approaching their potential clients.

Then add in the fact that, if Estibot shows a trademark exists on that name, the user cannot use that name on a public facing web site without risking a claim for damages to an extent way beyond the cost to them of the domain. So it is worthless.
 
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Then add in the fact that, if Estibot shows a trademark exists on that name, the user cannot use that name on a public facing web site without risking a claim for damages to an extent way beyond the cost to them of the domain. So it is worthless.

What are you talking about? There are hundreds and thousands of trademarks involving the same word but they co exist legally in different declared categories. Please study up on trademarks. Its true you have to have more care in how you handle a trademarked name but almost every word is trademarked anymore in some fashion. You just have to know how to handle that sort of name but it by no means diminishes its value.
 
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Indeed, karmaco, I put that too clumsily and you have gone too far in the other direction! :xf.wink:

If a trademark is flagged it makes good sense to check on that trademark because if using the name infringes - karmaco is correct to say it may not, but if it does - the user runs the risk I stated earlier.
 
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Back to the question, valuators are inconsistent and not to be relied on for pricing IMO. I do check but it really has zero to do with how I price a name.

GD valuator I find the most valuable for seeing the similar comps they show. Also it could help a newbie because it tells you if a word is considered in a general sense high value or popular at the time.
 
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Indeed, karmaco, I put that too clumsily and you have gone too far in the other direction! :xf.wink:

If a trademark is flagged it makes good sense to check on that trademark because if using the name infringes - karmaco is correct to say it may not, but if it does - the user runs the risk I stated earlier.

Yes it depends on the intended stated use. Someone could allready use a Trademark name in finance while someone else wants to use it for selling handmade goods, or home decor or fashion. Take a very common word like lets say boom and see all the trademarks. Also if the name was registered way before the company wanting to use it existed its not automatically bad faith.
 
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what is a bios?

A BIOS is the name for the firmware in the ROM (read only memory) in your computer. A BIOS boots your computer upon startup and initializes the computer's internal integrated circuits.
 
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EstiBot is good for keyword related domains, not brandable names. I have WellingtonFlooring.com and its EstiBot appraisal is $1,700, I have also
GeorgiaClinics.com its EstiBot appraisal is $1,000
 
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