To Mask or not To Mask... is there even a question?

Hi

for those who don't wear a mask, i'm wondering are you a republican and trump supporter?

and you know that if you die from covid before November election, then that's one less vote for president stupid, right?

what i'm saying is, if that clown wants to be re-elected, then why wouldn't he want his base to live?

think...… about that for a sec.

puff, puff, puffin on 7/4

imo...

biggie said:

Hi

for those who don't wear a mask, i'm wondering are you a republican and trump supporter?

and you know that if you die from covid before November election, then that's one less vote for president stupid, right?

what i'm saying is, if that clown wants to be re-elected, then why wouldn't he want his base to live?

think...… about that for a sec.

puff, puff, puffin on 7/4

imo...

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Wayyy Off-base;

Samer said:

Wayyy Off-base;

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Not really. Think about the sure stupidity of it, even just from a political standpoint.

It is mostly those on the right that are fighting against wearing masks.

This can only lead to an increase in cases and deaths.

So if cases and deaths increase, do you think this:

a. helps Trump
b. hurts Trump

It hurts. You guys are doing yourselves in. Plus, possibly yourself, family, friends, loved ones, other Americans, the economy. But hey, you look tough in front of other idiots.

frank-germany said:

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Hi

“If you don’t like wearing a mask, you’re not going to like wearing a ventilator.”

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great comment Frank

imo....

biggie said:

Hi

for those who don't wear a mask, i'm wondering are you a republican and trump supporter?

and you know that if you die from covid before November election, then that's one less vote for president stupid, right?

what i'm saying is, if that clown wants to be re-elected, then why wouldn't he want his base to live?

think...… about that for a sec.

puff, puff, puffin on 7/4

imo...

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Well, most of them don't even believe COVID is real. It's either a hoax, fear tactic or caused by 5G

biggie said:

great comment Frank

imo....

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Bipartisan comment...

Should apply to all.

Pretty sure, protesters dont wear masks.

Samer

Samer said:

Bipartisan comment...

Should apply to all.

Pretty sure, protesters dont wear masks.

Samer

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You know that's not true, you're just trolling again. We went over that in the other thread:





vs.

Tulsa Rally



It's pretty clear.

JB Lions said:

You know that's not true, you're just trolling again. We went over that in the other thread:

vs.

Tulsa Rally

It's pretty clear.

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I thought the Tusla Rally

“didnt have anyone”

Now it’s a “liability”?
They wear mask to cover identity; convenient

Samer said:

I thought the Tusla Rally

“didnt have anyone”

Now it’s a “liability”?
They wear mask to cover identity; convenient

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It had people, just 1/3 of what they thought they would. Diminishing enthusiasm = diminishing crowds

Bonus pic from last night, Mount Rushmore. Quick scan I see like 3 people wearing masks, so when I say about 90% are not wearing masks, I would say that's pretty accurate.

Samer said:

I thought the Tusla Rally

“didnt have anyone”

Now it’s a “liability”?
They wear mask to cover identity; convenient

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Wow they wear masks to cover identity? Thats a rather bigoted comment. Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post or read in this section.

karmaco said:

Wow they wear masks to cover identity? Thats a rather bigoted comment. Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post or read in this section.

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typical reply. Run, rather than tackle the issue.

Defacing, toppling Statues "Peaceful protest"’s illegal should prosecute under full extent of law

Bonus; In addition to protect; Hide identity;
Best both world; dont die..And dont get arrest?

Thanks reminding me of so-called "tolerance"

Bias must what detracting, questioning nice peaceful protesters'

Serious question; think care hide, equal protect

karmaco said:

Wow they wear masks to cover identity? Thats a rather bigoted comment. Thanks for reminding me why I rarely post or read in this section.

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Sorry, NOT intended.

Samer

Kanye will lead us to the promised land;

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmc...unces-hes-running-for-president/#7bf7af6d5536

JB Lions said:

What you consider negative is simply the truth.

Then you go on about finding common ground on how to bring this virus under control. We already know what we need to do, I went over it again in my last post. We just have people that refuse to do it, including yourself. You said:

"those who are against wearing masks"

That's one of the best things you can do, you refuse to do it.

Then with, let's stop attacking sides, which usually comes from people on the wrong side.

When the U.S. has 4% of the population but 25% of the cases and 25% of the deaths, that's failure. We probably could not have stopped the virus from coming in but you can control how you respond to it.



This whole post is nonsense as well.

First off, protesting is a Constitutional right, you can't do much about that. But you have control over rallies. Trump could simply say, no mask, no entry. He can practice social distancing, some obvious stuff, he doesn't.

Also, and this is live in front of the world. Most protesters are wearing masks, most Trump supporters, those showing up at this events, are not.

And I can slam one side since it's mostly one side that has an issue with it. Not everybody, but most. Again, look at the events. It's like 90% not wearing masks. These anti-mask protests, people filming themselves going into stores not wearing a mask, when the store requires it. Those are mostly Trumpers/those on the right.

Trump/Trumpers/Those on the right are biggest anti-mask group in the country. So yes, I can lay this right at their feet.

It's very simple, when you go out and about, in the public where you're going to be around other people:

a. not wearing masks
b. wearing masks

Which one is going to lead to more cases, more deaths, which leads to more shutting down?

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Sorry if you feel that these are legit protestors. They are bought and paid for by the left.

You say pro Trump folks are anti mask. Meanwhile the agitators that the dems bought are looting, tearing down monuments, acting like complete assholes, and doing so mostly without masks and in large groups.

You cannot point the finger in one direction without looking at what’s happening under your nose!

Keith said:

Sorry if you feel that these are legit protestors. They are bought and paid for by the left.

You say pro Trump folks are anti mask. Meanwhile the agitators that the dems bought are looting, tearing down monuments, acting like complete assholes, and doing so mostly without masks and in large groups.

You cannot point the finger in one direction without looking at what’s happening under your nose!

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So you take what is probably less than 1% that is looting, destroying property and want to paint everybody like that? You know that's bs.

Then, those large groups are mostly wearing masks, I literally posted pics. And those that are looting and stuff, wearing masks serves a duel purpose.

And yes, I can point a finger in one direction. It is mainly those on the right that is against wearing masks. Already went thru some of it. Just look at the very top. We have a dumb President that:

masked shamed Biden...........in the middle of a pandemic

won't wear a mask in public

doesn't require masks or social distancing at his events

removed social distancing stickers at the Tulsa rally

slowed down testing

etc.

Then if somebody is doing something stupid, like not wearing masks, that's an excuse for you to do something stupid?

We have people that support Trump, some like you that even agree you should wear masks, but are trying to cover for him. You can't. It's on full display in front of the world.

Just in case you forgot, even at the beginning he was showing where his mind was at:

Trump said he wants to keep Grand Princess cruise passengers on the ship so that US coronavirus numbers don't 'double.' That strategy failed in Japan.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...grand-princess-cruise-ship-coronavirus-2020-3

He's cares about numbers, reelection, not people.

JB Lions said:

We already know what we need to do, I went over it again in my last post. We just have people that refuse to do it, including yourself. You said:

"those who are against wearing masks"

That's one of the best things you can do, you refuse to do it.

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I don't understand what you are trying to say here, I am a strong advocate for people wearing masks and following all the other proven protocols that help prevent the spread of the virus, but unlike you I don't try to put the blame at the feet of just one side since as I already mentioned the virus is surging in almost all the States regardless of whether they are Right or Left leaning and that tells us that even though some people might be doing the right thing by wearing masks, but they fail to go the distance in some other areas which are as important since as I already mentioned no single action by itself can save us from the pandemic, it requires a combination of concerted and logical steps taken by all people and Governments regardless of their politics.

I was totally baffled when they opened bars and allowed people to gather in crowded beaches in many States including California and Florida, I am glad that they have since come to their senses and have reversed some of their policies in those places.

There are no good guys and bad guys here as almost everyone has failed to do the right things in one way or another. This is a Global problem that the Humanity as a whole has to conquer because unlike the past centuries today's World is so interconnected that no one can isolate themselves completely if the virus is allowed to surge even further so yes we all need to find some common grounds at least amongst those who have enough common sense in order to bring this situation under control not only in one State or Country, but across the whole Globe. IMO

Here are some of my views on this subject from my own Coronavirus thread here at Namepros:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...ected-cruise-ship.1176573/page-2#post-7842457


https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...ected-cruise-ship.1176573/page-2#post-7843961

PS: There are some fireworks outside which I am going to go and watch.

I live in Thailand, we locked down in March. Closed the borders. Masks were,and still are compulsory in many places along with lots of sanitiser,social distancing etc.

Many businesses reopened at the end of May.The big danger areas of pubs and clubs have just opened but with precautions in place.Kids went back to school last week ,again with precautions. Public assembly,ralies etc still basically banned. Basically a military govt here so compliance with regulations was pretty much 100%.
I wore a mask this morning in the shop to buy milk.

Thailand with a population of 70 million has had less than 3,000 infections and under 60 deaths.

oldtimer said:

I don't understand what you are trying to say here, I am a strong advocate for people wearing masks and following all the other proven protocols that help prevent the spread of the virus, but unlike you I don't try to put the blame at the feet of just one side since as I already mentioned the virus is surging in almost all the States regardless of whether they are Right or Left leaning and that tells us that even though some people might be doing the right thing by wearing masks, but they fail to go the distance in some other areas which are as important since as I already mentioned no single action by itself can save us from the pandemic, it requires a combination of concerted and logical steps taken by all people and Governments regardless of their politics.

I was totally baffled when they opened bars and allowed people to gather in crowded beaches in many States including California and Florida, I am glad that they have since come to their senses and have reversed some of their policies in those places.

There are no good guys and bad guys here as almost everyone has failed to do the right things in one way or another. This is a Global problem that the Humanity as a whole has to conquer because unlike the past centuries today's World is so interconnected that no one can isolate themselves completely if the virus is allowed to surge even further so yes we all need to find some common grounds at least amongst those who have enough common sense in order to bring this situation under control not only in one State or Country, but across the whole Globe. IMO

Here are some of my views on this subject from my own Coronavirus thread here at Namepros:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...ected-cruise-ship.1176573/page-2#post-7842457


https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...ected-cruise-ship.1176573/page-2#post-7843961

PS: There are some fireworks outside which I am going to go and watch.

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You don't think there are bad guys here?

Let me ask you some simple questions.

Is mask shaming people, good or bad?

Is slowing down testing, good or bad?

Is not using your platform to encourage good practices, good or bad?

Is not requiring masks, social distancing, removing stickers at events, good or bad?

Do you think people rushing a state capitol with guns, trying to put pressure on a Governor to reopen early, good or bad?

The thing people can do is follow the advice of experts. But something as simple as wearing a mask when around other people in public is some big deal to some people. And those people mainly lean right. That's just the truth.

JB Lions said:

So you take what is probably less than 1% that is looting, destroying property and want to paint everybody like that? You know that's bs.

Then, those large groups are mostly wearing masks, I literally posted pics. And those that are looting and stuff, wearing masks serves a duel purpose.

And yes, I can point a finger in one direction. It is mainly those on the right that is against wearing masks. Already went thru some of it. Just look at the very top. We have a dumb President that:

masked shamed Biden...........in the middle of a pandemic

won't wear a mask in public

doesn't require masks or social distancing at his events

removed social distancing stickers at the Tulsa rally

slowed down testing

etc.

Then if somebody is doing something stupid, like not wearing masks, that's an excuse for you to do something stupid?

We have people that support Trump, some like you that even agree you should wear masks, but are trying to cover for him. You can't. It's on full display in front of the world.

Just in case you forgot, even at the beginning he was showing where his mind was at:

Trump said he wants to keep Grand Princess cruise passengers on the ship so that US coronavirus numbers don't 'double.' That strategy failed in Japan.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...grand-princess-cruise-ship-coronavirus-2020-3

He's cares about numbers, reelection, not people.

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1%? Maybe you live on mars. Here in the States the paid for agitators have caused tens of millions in damage, if not more. They are well funded and amount to the majority of the “protestors”. Although, they aren’t really protesting anything, they’re just about disruption.

This discussion is a joke because you think the BLM folks had ready made bins of rocks and bricks to protest the death of George Floyd

That thinking is as naive as it gets.

JB Lions said:

You don't think there are bad guys here?

Let me ask you some simple questions.

Is mask shaming people, good or bad?

Is slowing down testing, good or bad?

Is not using your platform to encourage good practices, good or bad?

Is not requiring masks, social distancing, removing stickers at events, good or bad?

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Theses are the exact things that I personally have been advocating for as shown in my own Coronavirus thread here at NamePros, but as I already mentioned people have been reckless in one way or another regardless of which side of the political spectrum they belong to.

I am off to go see some fireworks now.

Keith said:

1%? Maybe you live on mars. Here in the States the paid for agitators have caused tens of millions in damage, if not more. They are well funded and amount to the majority of the “protestors”. Although, they aren’t really protesting anything, they’re just about disruption.

This discussion is a joke because you think the BLM folks had ready made bins of rocks and bricks to protest the death of George Floyd

That thinking is as naive as it gets.

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You are very naive. Yes, most people are peacefully protesting. But of course if you favor one party/person over another, you try to broad stroke it, painting everybody with the same brush.

oldtimer said:

Theses are the exact things that I personally have been advocating for as shown in my own Coronavirus thread here at NamePros, but as I already mentioned people have been reckless in one way or another regardless of which side of the political spectrum the belong to.

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There is no cleanup here. Yes, you can find some on the left that don't want to wear masks and such. But to deny this leans heavily right, is just being dishonest. All those Trump supporters you see at his Farewell tour, most are not wearing masks. These aren't Dems/Liberals/Left Leaning folk. The President is a Republican. He is not leading by example. He's not leading by advocating good practices. He's simply not leading.

JB Lions said:

There is no cleanup here. Yes, you can find some on the left that don't want to wear masks and such. But to deny this leans heavily right, is just being dishonest.

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I have had the same stance from the very beginning of the pandemic and I don't consider that as being dishonest but rather as being fair and unbiased. Perhaps you should try to do the same. IMO

Now really I got to go before the fireworks is over.

oldtimer said:

I have had the same stance from the very beginning of the pandemic and I don't consider that as being dishonest but rather as being fair and unbiased. Perhaps you should try to do the same. IMO

Now really I got to go before the fireworks is over.

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I am being fair, I'm pointing out the obvious. Let me quote you, and you are correct here:

oldtimer said:

So wear your damn masks and wash your damn hands and obey the physical distancing rules because we can no longer allow your arrogance to put others at risk especially when it comes to the medical professionals and the first responders who are going out of their way at great risk to themselves and their families to take care of those who are most vulnerable amongst us.

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This isn't happening at Trump events. He's not advocating this.

I mean masks obviously only do so much, at first here it only seemed to affect anti-Trump supporters and still does too.... spray paint something with a mask on and tell me if you don't smell paint, or even if you don't get paint inside the mask when you breath... it's impossible unless you have no sense of smell and you tape all around your face.

The masks HELP if used correctly in certain situations, but the bottom line is this.... masks that do block out this type of disease (as it's labeled) are few and far between. These would be found usually with government officials only and would have 30-day expiration dates, yet I see people wearing the same dirty mask, not because it's a health practice but because it's a scare tactic and requirement in some places and no one wants to keep paying $7 for a new mask that before all this happened were around $0.09 - $0.33 each.

When this all started (in October) it was ignored and even covered up when it was being exposed. Then the US was slow to do anything really, and when South Carolina told their people to use common sense to beat the virus, I knew it was all a bit much.

We went from alcohol kills it and 80 degree weather kills it, to now it's summertime with nothing to do but drink, and somehow people are still getting sick. Somehow rioters and looters aren't spreading it, but anyone else who so much as sneezes in public is labeled as a terrorist.

Bill Gates after his Chinese nuclear failure, now is all the sudden throwing money at vaccinations while talking about blocking out the sun... that's a lot of money to be throwing around when really pedophilia being exposed was the bigger story to throw money at.

ID2020 is linked to Gates wrongfully as some claim while the organization itself in 2019, started a new digital identity program in collaboration with the government of Bangladesh and a vaccine alliance. The Rockefeller Foundation provided ID2020 with seed funding in 2017 and has been an ongoing supporter of ID2020's work. (while no one wants to be chipped and vaccines are proven to be detrimental....even flu deaths tout a number that includes flu vaccine deaths to scare people into taking a flu vaccine.)


Timeline of events.......

2017 - seed funding started for ID2020

2018 - "Bill Gates calls on U.S. to lead fight against a pandemic that could kill 33 million"
washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/04/27/bill-gates-calls-on-u-s-to-lead-fight-against-a-pandemic-that-could-kill-millions/

August 2019 - Epstein didn't kill himself (and is probably alive on a military base somewhere as he did have some of highest US government clearance)

Sep 2019 - Gates backs blocking out sunlight

Oct 2019 - Bill Gates-backed pandemic simulation in October and also Coronavirus hits China

November 2019 - Gates China nuclear deal goes bad

January 2020 - While Jan. 20th was said to be the first US case of coronavirus, the CDC the next day claimed they had been preparing. The virus also is extensively referred to as "2019 coronavirus" despite the very slow scare which didn't come here until the ending of February 2020.
cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0121-novel-coronavirus-travel-case.html

February 2020 - very little hype finally starts about something so serious and dangerous

March 2020 - virus directly started to widely affect police, military, EMT, judges, prosecutors, jailers, and people who were anti-Trump (it was obvious it was US military that did this) while Bill Gates goes against the US Presidents plans
news.theceomagazine.com/politics/coronavirus-bill-gates/ (article title since changed)

April 2020 - people are being pushed to wear masks and support first responders, while Bill Gates is spending 'billions' to ‘save months’ on a coronavirus vaccine ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-coronavirus-vaccine-152251369.html

May 2020 - first responders start attacking and murdering people even who support them

June 2020 - Restaurants start opening up for dine-in despite the growing number of virus tests that are positive, while Black Lives Matter fundraising handled by group with convicted terrorist on its board. Also dirt blows from the Sahara in Africa while people are made to believe a 6-feet distance can help stop a virus.
washingtonexaminer.com/news/black-lives-matter-fundraising-handled-by-group-with-convicted-terrorist-on-its-board

AND ALSO people who know Bill Gates start dying by suiciding themselves...

https://www.vulture.com/2020/06/steve-bing-producer-financier-philanthropist-dead-at-55.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/us/three-family-members-found-dead-in-nj-pool-trnd/


July 2020 - Football games are suspended for the year here, but you can still eat inside a restaurant, and can even bust explosives all over while the wind pushes all the contaminants all over the neighborhoods, but god forbid you do it without wearing a mask because then you're putting others in danger........