discuss Share your "Rubbish" domains☺

ThatNameGuy · Jun 2, 2020

I've created this thread for hand reggers to request feedback from other hand reggers about the domain they just hand reg'd. Please share your domain here with a short explanation and please don't list more than one domain per day. Here is mine for today and feel free to comment;

HomerunAdvice.com
"Real Power"

this domain was inspired by one of the Castello brothers when he said to me in an email, "our advice is always free". His response to me made me feel like I'd just hit a homerun after reaching out to him.

Comments? Show us your rubbish

Joe N · Jun 2, 2020

Good idea!

It might even be helpful to add some criteria that lays out what is expected from the feedback, just to dissuade less constructive comments.

I'll provide you my pros and cons with respect to your new name, and will conclude with a summary of my thoughts.

Name: HomeRunAdvice.com

Pros

Positive meaning.
Passes the "radio test" (easy to spell/speak).
Memorable, thanks to word association with a popular sports metaphor.
"Advice" is a decent keyword, with 23 names containing it having been sold in 2020 so far.
Potential double meaning (i.e. added versatility) - Either really good advice, or advice on how to hit home runs.

Cons

While "hitting a home run" is a common metaphor for success, "home run advice" is not a commonly used term.
No existing businesses seem to be branding or advertising using this term.
Not registered in any other extensions.
"Home Run" is not terribly popular as a term for past recorded sales on NameBio. In fact, only three similar sales have ever been recorded in the last 10 years:
- HomeRunDeliveries.com for $210 in 2019
- HomeRunDigital.com for $103 in 2016
While "advice" is a decently popular keyword, most higher sales (i.e. four figure) are for names that allude to a specific type of advice, such as:
- Legal advice
- Career advice
- Dating advice
A name with a similar feel, ProAdvice.com, was sold for $2,600 in January, however "pro" is a very popular keyword adjective, and many existing businesses are using that specific name to brand or advertise themselves.

Conclusion

While I like the sound of the name, the above factors force me to conclude that it does not make for a good investment name. I would not buy or hold it myself, as I believe it has a very low chance of selling, and if it does the sales price would not be substantial enough to make the purchase/hold worthwhile.

I do, however, like the name for development purposes. If I were starting a website centred around advising others, this would make for a memorable brand that could set you apart from other similar businesses. The metaphor could lend itself well to a very fun logo that would help engrain the brand into the minds of your customers.

So, short answer - Buy and hold it? No. Use it yourself? Yes!

BrandCollectors.com · Jun 2, 2020

I am own S--E--X in dawt king, tbh I am not fan of double hyphens but I like how it looks in the URL. it was renewed before since 2004 by another domainer. would you to renew such name for 16 years? it was just parked without content.
a similar name without hyphens was sold for 14M USD.

u can't register with triple hyphens unallowed on registry side.

a similar is taken

by hugedomains

When I saw it on drop list fist was I thinking a dating website or blog about relationships not as an adult domain.

Your thoughts please.i am understanding that is unsellable name but who knows..

ThatNameGuy · Jun 2, 2020

Joe Nichols said:
Good idea!

It might even be helpful to add some criteria that lays out what is expected from the feedback, just to dissuade less constructive comments.

I'll provide you my pros and cons with respect to your new name, and will conclude with a summary of my thoughts.

Name: HomeRunAdvice.com

Pros

Positive meaning.

Passes the "radio test" (easy to spell/speak).

Memorable, thanks to word association with a popular sports metaphor.

"Advice" is a decent keyword, with 23 names containing it having been sold in 2020 so far.

Potential double meaning (i.e. added versatility) - Either really good advice, or advice on how to hit home runs.

Cons

While "hitting a home run" is a common metaphor for success, "home run advice" is not a commonly used term.

No existing businesses seem to be branding or advertising using this term.

Not registered in any other extensions.

"Home Run" is not terribly popular as a term for past recorded sales on NameBio. In fact, only three similar sales have ever been recorded in the last 10 years:

HomeRunDeliveries.com for $210 in 2019

HomeRunDigital.com for $103 in 2016

While "advice" is a decently popular keyword, most higher sales (i.e. four figure) are for names that allude to a specific type of advice, such as:

Legal advice

Career advice

Dating advice

A name with a similar feel, ProAdvice.com, was sold for $2,600 in January, however "pro" is a very popular keyword adjective, and many existing businesses are using that specific name to brand or advertise themselves.

Conclusion

While I like the sound of the name, the above factors force me to conclude that it does not make for a good investment name. I would not buy or hold it myself, as I believe it has a very low chance of selling, and if it does the sales price would not be substantial enough to make the purchase/hold worthwhile.

I do, however, like the name for development purposes. If I were starting a website centred around advising others, this would make for a memorable brand that could set you apart from other similar businesses. The metaphor could lend itself well to a very fun logo that would help engrain the brand into the minds of your customers.

So, short answer - Buy and hold it? No. Use it yourself? Yes!

Joe...your response was a Homerun

Thank you so much.

pb · Jun 2, 2020

Science//Junk//com

Literally rubbish.

I meant it to mean "science stuff/equipment", like you often say "all that junk" (or maybe you don't). But I'm not sure if it carries the meaning well.

cipcip · Jun 2, 2020

shareblackstories ( in com )

Hand regged because of popular #shareblackstories hashtag, and the fact that Instagram uses the hash tag as a facebook cover

Also has lots of meaning and potential of a centered black people community.

Thanks,
Cristian

ThatNameGuy · Jun 3, 2020

BrandCollectors.com said:
I am own S--E--X in dawt king, tbh I am not fan of double hyphens but I like how it looks in the URL. it was renewed before since 2004 by another domainer. would you to renew such name for 16 years? it was just parked without content.
a similar name without hyphens was sold for 14M USD.

u can't register with triple hyphens unallowed on registry side.

a similar is takenShow attachment 156748 by hugedomains

When I saw it on drop list fist was I thinking a dating website or blog about relationships not as an adult domain.

Your thoughts please.i am understanding that is unsellable name but who knows..

Thanks for chiming in....yes, it was Sex.com that sold for 14M about 5 years ago. I think that's the second highest sale in domain history. I own a couple of domains with the keyword "sex" like MemorableSex.com, but I've had no offers for 10 months. My thinking was a little like yours in that "Sex" sells

, but that's not necessarily the case.

On a scale of 1-10 I might give yours and mine maybe a 2.5, meaning it's unlikely imho either of them will sell. Good Luck!

ThatNameGuy · Jun 3, 2020

cipcip said:
shareblackstories ( in com )

Hand regged because of popular #shareblackstories hashtag, and the fact that Instagram uses the hash tag as a facebook cover

Also has lots of meaning and potential of a centered black people community.

Thanks,
Cristian

Cristian....thanks for sharing, but I just don't see what you see in it. GD only values it at $701, and I tend to give GD more credit than most of the appraisers.

ThatNameGuy · Jun 3, 2020

pb said:
Science//Junk//com

Literally rubbish. I meant it to mean "science stuff/equipment", like you often say "all that junk" (or maybe you don't). But I'm not sure if it carries the meaning well.

pb...not sure i like your domain, but i do like your explanation. ScienceStuff.com has a really cool website imo. It sells "stuff" having to do with science like lab supplies etc.

Thanks for sharing your rubbish....i'd grade it a "2" out of 10, but i think you already did that

ThatNameGuy · Jun 3, 2020

Joe Nichols said:
Good idea!

It might even be helpful to add some criteria that lays out what is expected from the feedback, just to dissuade less constructive comments.

I'll provide you my pros and cons with respect to your new name, and will conclude with a summary of my thoughts.

Name: HomeRunAdvice.com

Pros

Positive meaning.

Passes the "radio test" (easy to spell/speak).

Memorable, thanks to word association with a popular sports metaphor.

"Advice" is a decent keyword, with 23 names containing it having been sold in 2020 so far.

Potential double meaning (i.e. added versatility) - Either really good advice, or advice on how to hit home runs.

Cons

While "hitting a home run" is a common metaphor for success, "home run advice" is not a commonly used term.

No existing businesses seem to be branding or advertising using this term.

Not registered in any other extensions.

"Home Run" is not terribly popular as a term for past recorded sales on NameBio. In fact, only three similar sales have ever been recorded in the last 10 years:

HomeRunDeliveries.com for $210 in 2019

HomeRunDigital.com for $103 in 2016

While "advice" is a decently popular keyword, most higher sales (i.e. four figure) are for names that allude to a specific type of advice, such as:

Legal advice

Career advice

Dating advice

A name with a similar feel, ProAdvice.com, was sold for $2,600 in January, however "pro" is a very popular keyword adjective, and many existing businesses are using that specific name to brand or advertise themselves.

Conclusion

While I like the sound of the name, the above factors force me to conclude that it does not make for a good investment name. I would not buy or hold it myself, as I believe it has a very low chance of selling, and if it does the sales price would not be substantial enough to make the purchase/hold worthwhile.

I do, however, like the name for development purposes. If I were starting a website centred around advising others, this would make for a memorable brand that could set you apart from other similar businesses. The metaphor could lend itself well to a very fun logo that would help engrain the brand into the minds of your customers.

So, short answer - Buy and hold it? No. Use it yourself? Yes!

Thanks again Joe...now here's a bit of rubbish I registered a few hours ago;

DomainPoet

com

in the way of an explanation i checked just three sources before I hand reg'd it.

1st. GD Valuation @ $1,231 (note, one would think GD would have valued this higher since it had been registered for 20 consecutive years)

2nd. HosterStats showing it was just dropped in April after 20 years of registration

3. NameWorth Valuation @ $5,450

Joe, as you know I already have a domain for my marketplace, but I really do think of myself as a "name poet" of sorts having named so many businesses over the years.

Thanks

lock · Jun 3, 2020

Rubbishing dot com

ThatNameGuy · Jun 3, 2020

lock said:
Rubbishing dot com

AhRubbish

com

Joe N · Jun 3, 2020

ThatNameGuy said:
Thanks again Joe...now here's a bit of rubbish I registered a few hours ago;

DomainPoetcom

in the way of an explanation i checked just three sources before I hand reg'd it.

1st. GD Valuation @ $1,231 (note, one would think GD would have valued this higher since it had been registered for 20 consecutive years)

2nd. HosterStats showing it was just dropped in April after 20 years of registration

3. NameWorth Valuation @ $5,450

Joe, as you know I already have a domain for my marketplace, but I really do think of myself as a "name poet" of sorts having named so many businesses over the years.

Thanks

If we compare DomainPoet to ScienceJunk then it looks like it's also a 2/10 rating based on your evaluation metrics.

ScienceJunk.com:

$1,520 value at GD
$4,450 value at NameWorth
Continuously registered for 20 years before being deleted in March 2020.

Edit: I should add that, for the purposes of a thread like this, perhaps we should focus on a deeper analysis than simply looking up automatic appraisal values. We all have easy access to those tools, but what we could all really benefit from is our experience and knowledge of what kinds of domain names actually sell to end users.

ThatNameGuy · Jun 3, 2020

Joe Nichols said:
If we compare DomainPoet to ScienceJunk then it looks like it's also a 2/10 rating based on your evaluation metrics.

ScienceJunk.com:

$1,520 value at GD

$4,450 value at NameWorth

Continuously registered for 20 years before being deleted in March 2020.

Edit: I should add that, for the purposes of a thread like this, perhaps we should focus on a deeper analysis than simply looking up automatic appraisal values. We all have easy access to those tools, but what we could all really benefit from is our experience and knowledge of what kinds of domain names actually sell to end users.

I don't disagree, but with the definition of "poet"; a person possessing special powers of imagination or expression, and the definition of "junk"; something of little meaning, worth, or significance, I just thought "poet" compliments "domain" far better than "junk" compliments "science".

Now if ScienceJunkie.com was registered instead of sciencejunk there would have been no comparison.

ThatNameGuy · Jun 4, 2020

Joe Nichols said:
If we compare DomainPoet to ScienceJunk then it looks like it's also a 2/10 rating based on your evaluation metrics.

ScienceJunk.com:

$1,520 value at GD

$4,450 value at NameWorth

Continuously registered for 20 years before being deleted in March 2020.

Edit: I should add that, for the purposes of a thread like this, perhaps we should focus on a deeper analysis than simply looking up automatic appraisal values. We all have easy access to those tools, but what we could all really benefit from is our experience and knowledge of what kinds of domain names actually sell to end users.

Maybe you mean what kinds of domains we think we can sell to end users if only end users were exposed to our domains.

I don't expect end users to accidentally find my domains. The more important question should be, how do you plan to sell your domains and to whom?

Here are two rubbish domains I reg'd after hearing

a hearing aid commercial by a company who call themselves; ListenLively.com

ListenLift.com
and
ListenLyft.com

Joe....i've mentioned many times I generally register domains that I would use for my own business. Of the three domains featured, I think I'd name my hearing aid business ListenLyft.com mostly because it's catchier than ListenLift, but I'm glad I own both

Joe N · Jun 4, 2020

ThatNameGuy said:
Maybe you mean what kinds of domains we think we can sell to end users if only end users were exposed to our domains.

I don't expect end users to accidentally find my domains.

No, I prefer to rely on past experience and data. It's easy to dig ourselves into a hole when we start buying names based on what we "think" end users will like (even though available resources tell us otherwise).

I don't expect end users to accidentally find my names either. I expect them to look for them intentionally because either:

They already use the term to brand or advertise themselves;
They sell the product or service that my domain matches; or
It's objectively (i.e. based on data) a good enough name that businesses will want to use it for their own name or product.

ThatNameGuy said:
The more important question should be, how do you plan to sell your domains and to whom?

Certainly an important question, although I would argue that deciding what to buy is even more important. The better job you do of buying, the less work you have to do selling.

ThatNameGuy said:
Here are two rubbish domains I reg'd after hearing a hearing aid commercial by a company who call themselves; ListenLively.com

ListenLift.com
and
ListenLyft.com

Joe....i've mentioned many times I generally register domains that I would use for my own business. Of the three domains featured, I think I'd name my hearing aid business ListenLyft.com mostly because it's catchier than ListenLift, but I'm glad I own both

It could certainly make a good brand to develop. I like the alliteration.

I would prefer the correctly spelled alternative myself, since most will assume that spelling when they hear it, and "Lyft" could be confused with the ride-sharing company.

I would need to do a little research to decide if it's a name I would personally want to invest in.

Joe N · Jun 5, 2020

ThatNameGuy said:
Thanks again for your input. With regards to development, here is a copy of an email I got from one of the most successful domain investors over the last 25 years;

"I learned early on that developers have no concept of sales and marketing.
However, they will build you a beautiful, gorgeous site.That will not generate revenue.
Technology will always come first to them and no matter what you tell them to do, they will try and pull it their way. I've always said that if developers were paid solely by how much the site generated, 1000X more sites would've been profitable."

This is EXACTLY why I won't work with a developer that wouldn't partner with me in some capacity. I'm looking at developing a site for a domain that I own with a goal to generate a million dollars rev annually. I've set the goal at a million dollars because the industry it serves, scotch whisky, is a Billion dollar industry.

Joe, the hearing aid industry (a 10B industry) is what prompted me to reg ListenLift and ListenLyft.com. I haven't checked it out yet, but GD values the keyword "listen" at $2,485 and "lyft" at $1,918.

Very interesting insights. I'll try to stay on the thread topic, though, and focus on discussing the merits of specific hand registered names.

Would you be able to provide some detail as to why you registered ListenLift/Lyft? What factors led you to picking the names (beyond the size of the hearing aid industry)?

Perhaps you could also give me some feedback (beyond auto appraisal values) on a name I registered earlier this year:

Refresh / Your / Wardrobe (.com)

ThatNameGuy · Jun 5, 2020

Joe Nichols said:
Very interesting insights. I'll try to stay on the thread topic, though, and focus on discussing the merits of specific hand registered names.

Would you be able to provide some detail as to why you registered ListenLift/Lyft? What factors led you to picking the names (beyond the size of the hearing aid industry)?

Perhaps you could also give me some feedback (beyond auto appraisal values) on a name I registered earlier this year:

Refresh / Your / Wardrobe (.com)

Joe....here's another piece of rubbish I just registered; FuckAye.com Here are a few reasons why I registered it....yesterday after playing golf and having a pint with my buddy from Glasgow I here him say Fuck Aye! to a comment that was made by another friend. I don't even remember what the comment was, but Bruce's response was spot on in my opinion. Then earlier I check and find these appraisals for FuckAye

GD; $1,130
Estibot/Epik; $220
Free Valuator; $2,100
Nameworth; 2,450

Actually I was most impressed with Epik/Estibot appraisal because they generally appraise most of the domains I register at "0"

Then I'm reading a post here on NP by a very well respected developer who speaks of a site; Fubar.com.
Then I think to myself....well FuckAye.com sounds as good to me as Fubar so I think...WhyNot

There you have it Joe....would you own FuckAye.com for your portfolio, or is it just rubbish?

Joe N · Jun 5, 2020

ThatNameGuy said:
Joe....here's another piece of rubbish I just registered; FuckAye.com Here are a few reasons why I registered it....yesterday after playing golf and having a pint with my buddy from Glasgow I here him say Fuck Aye! to a comment that was made by another friend. I don't even remember what the comment was, but Bruce's response was spot on in my opinion. Then earlier I check and find these appraisals for FuckAye

GD; $1,130
Estibot/Epik; $220
Free Valuator; $2,100
Nameworth; 2,450

Actually I was most impressed with Epik/Estibot appraisal because they generally appraise most of the domains I register at "0"

Then I'm reading a post here on NP by a very well respected developer who speaks of a site; Fubar.com.
Then I think to myself....well FuckAye.com sounds as good to me as Fubar so I think...WhyNot

There you have it Joe....would you own FuckAye.com for your portfolio, or is it just rubbish?

That's definitely a memorable one! I generally stay away from any words that a lot of people might find offensive, since I'm concerned it would really limit my potential buyers.

I'd never call another domainer's acquisition rubbish, but this isn't one I would own myself. What business use did you have in mind for it?

What are your thoughts on the name I mentioned in my previous post?

easternaga · Jul 10, 2020

minebitcoin.website

Ha that extensions killing me

branding · Jul 10, 2020

*.cyou

It's the new low in the era of the internet.

Temitope · Jul 16, 2020

WebPrint.Design

umjd1998 · Jul 22, 2020

detriotblm.com

I didn't realize I spelled Detroit wrong until after I bought it

Reddstagg · Jul 22, 2020

umjd1998 said:
detriotblm.com

I didn't realize I spelled Detroit wrong until after I bought it

Good evening,

Sometimes, and with certain registries you can grace delete a domain within a certain time frame and get a full refund. Not sure whether it's possible for you but may be worth investigating.

Check. Check. And check again. I guess you won't be making that mistake again lol.

Welcome to NP and domaining.

Regards,

Reddstagg

umjd1998 · Jul 22, 2020

Reddstagg said:
Good evening,

Sometimes, and with certain registries you can grace delete a domain within a certain time frame and get a full refund. Not sure whether it's possible for you but may be worth investigating.

Check. Check. And check again. I guess you won't be making that mistake again lol.

Welcome to NP and domaining.

Regards,

Reddstagg

I didn't know that, thank you. I'll look into it. And yes, I'll will be careful lol.

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