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My three and a half years in Domaining

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I have been a follower of Namepros for a while, but I have never contributed/ joined this forum. While I am lingering at my home due to the current situation, so I thought of writing and sharing my experience.

Note: Pardon me for any English comprehension mistakes as English is not my first language.
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I will breakdown the points to make it easily readable:

How I was introduced to Domaining: My friend and I were planning to set up a Techblog and the next step was to set up a website with a good domain name. We searched one name on the internet, but to our surprise it was priced at around 25 thousands dollars.
Our whole budget was around 1000 dollars for the project. So we decided to hand register. But I was intrigued at the practice of buying and selling domain names.To my surprise I discovered the whole industry behind it.

Which blogs/ programs I followed from the onset:
Domainsherpa was my go-to program from the onset. Moreover I started visiting Namepros.

=> Personalities to follow:
Below are the people that I regularly followed:

i) Mike Carson (I actually follow him even before the introduction to Domaining)
ii) Doron Vermaat
iii) Morgan Linton
iv) Micheal Cyger
v) Abdul Basit
vi) Andrew Rosener (I like this guy. He is a straight shooter)
vii) Konstantinos Zournas
viii) Shane Cultra

=> Primary Registrars:
My primary registrar is Namecheap. For my personal web development projects I always use one European Registrar (Gandi.net). I have heard good stories of Godaddy but my experience with them was not so pleasant (or worse to say the least).

=> Auction Platforms:
i) Namejet
ii) Pool.com
iii) Snapnames
iv) Godaddy Auctions
v) 4.cn (Very famous in Asia)
vi) Flippa

=> Escrow Platforms
escrow.com
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Year 1:
Initial buying spree and learnings:

I started with hand registering just like many new domainers and afterwards I discovered expireddomains.net. During this time I have registered more than 50 domain names.
I have made landing pages for them and then the waiting game started. For some months I never got any inquiry and I was thinking that I was doing something wrong.

Year 2:
I have decided in year 2 that I will take this seriously and I have invested around 2500 US Dollars. Mostly I concentrated on non .coms, .org,.nets and other cctlds. Moreover I have tried to buy the names from sedo and flippa along with the regular checking of expireddomains.net.

Year 3:
After a setback of the first 2 years with no sales whatsoever I have decided to go back to the drawing board. I had taken a critical look at my 100 domains and I came to the conclusion that the quality of my domains was not good at all.
But it was not easy to swallow my pride and agree to the fact that It was me who bought them in the first place. Then I decided to drop most of them.
At the same time I have decided to pour another 3000 dollars as the final investment.

Sales in year 3:
I was able to sell one .com in mid four figures and I was enthralled. I have decided to reinvest that money back into this business.
In total I was able to sell 4 domains during my third year. And I reached break even and in fact became profitable.

Year 4 (2020):
So far I have been able to sell one domain during this year, but I am satisfied with my performance.
The reason is that I have only 50-60 domains now and I am registering sales even with this small inventory.

Key takeaways:
i) Don’t emotionally attach yourself with domains:

Dropping the domains is an important step for improvement. But if you start loving all of your domain names then you will be doomed.

ii) Domaining is a business not a hobby:
Here I will disagree with many people who term Domaining as a hobby. I cannot consider it a hobby at all. For me it is a business, even if I put only 5 hours per week into it.

iii) Keep on learning:
Just like in any other business field you can never cease to stop learning. You should keep abreast with the latest trends.

iv) Domaining requires investment:
If you are a .com fan then remember that hand registration will not get you anywhere. Same is the case with other cctlds,
It requires investment just like any other business

v) Take care of your privacy: This point is important for me. So my Whois information is mostly private. Moreover I am buying the domains through my registered company as well.
Reason: Some domain investors will check your data on Namebio and other platforms and then will start bothering you with low balls (considering you dumb as a new entrant). Atleast it happened with me and I was so bothered with them that I decided to take my privacy seriously.
 
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Hello!

You provided an interesting in-depth introduction to the Forum! Enjoyed the opportunity to review your entry and progress in the field of domaining.

Welcome to NamePros!
 
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nice share, wish You good luck in next few years and decads ;)
 
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Nice one.. I will write mine one day.. Keep it up.
 
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Welcome to NP's! Excellent summary.(y)
 
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This is an excellent sharing post. Your first year might have been very tough. I am sitting on my first year and hoping for the best. Right now just doing research on DOMAINEERING.

Hope for the best.
 
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Thank you for such a detailed elaboration of your journey. Dropping domain names to learn further is such a piece of great advice for new learners. Keep posting your learnings. Welcome to Namepros.
 
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I have been a follower of Namepros for a while, but I have never contributed/ joined this forum. While I am lingering at my home due to the current situation, so I thought of writing and sharing my experience.

Note: Pardon me for any English comprehension mistakes as English is not my first language.
_____

I will breakdown the points to make it easily readable:

How I was introduced to Domaining: My friend and I were planning to set up a Techblog and the next step was to set up a website with a good domain name. We searched one name on the internet, but to our surprise it was priced at around 25 thousands dollars.
Our whole budget was around 1000 dollars for the project. So we decided to hand register. But I was intrigued at the practice of buying and selling domain names.To my surprise I discovered the whole industry behind it.

Which blogs/ programs I followed from the onset:
Domainsherpa was my go-to program from the onset. Moreover I started visiting Namepros.

=> Personalities to follow:
Below are the people that I regularly followed:

i) Mike Carson (I actually follow him even before the introduction to Domaining)
ii) Doron Vermaat
iii) Morgan Linton
iv) Micheal Cyger
v) Abdul Basit
vi) Andrew Rosener (I like this guy. He is a straight shooter)
vii) Konstantinos Zournas
viii) Shane Cultra

=> Primary Registrars:
My primary registrar is Namecheap. For my personal web development projects I always use one European Registrar (Gandi.net). I have heard good stories of Godaddy but my experience with them was not so pleasant (or worse to say the least).

=> Auction Platforms:
i) Namejet
ii) Pool.com
iii) Snapnames
iv) Godaddy Auctions
v) 4.cn (Very famous in Asia)
vi) Flippa

=> Escrow Platforms
escrow.com
_______________________________________________

Year 1:
Initial buying spree and learnings:

I started with hand registering just like many new domainers and afterwards I discovered expireddomains.net. During this time I have registered more than 50 domain names.
I have made landing pages for them and then the waiting game started. For some months I never got any inquiry and I was thinking that I was doing something wrong.

Year 2:
I have decided in year 2 that I will take this seriously and I have invested around 2500 US Dollars. Mostly I concentrated on non .coms, .org,.nets and other cctlds. Moreover I have tried to buy the names from sedo and flippa along with the regular checking of expireddomains.net.

Year 3:
After a setback of the first 2 years with no sales whatsoever I have decided to go back to the drawing board. I had taken a critical look at my 100 domains and I came to the conclusion that the quality of my domains was not good at all.
But it was not easy to swallow my pride and agree to the fact that It was me who bought them in the first place. Then I decided to drop most of them.
At the same time I have decided to pour another 3000 dollars as the final investment.

Sales in year 3:
I was able to sell one .com in mid four figures and I was enthralled. I have decided to reinvest that money back into this business.
In total I was able to sell 4 domains during my third year. And I reached break even and in fact became profitable.

Year 4 (2020):
So far I have been able to sell one domain during this year, but I am satisfied with my performance.
The reason is that I have only 50-60 domains now and I am registering sales even with this small inventory.

Key takeaways:
i) Don’t emotionally attach yourself with domains:

Dropping the domains is an important step for improvement. But if you start loving all of your domain names then you will be doomed.

ii) Domaining is a business not a hobby:
Here I will disagree with many people who term Domaining as a hobby. I cannot consider it a hobby at all. For me it is a business, even if I put only 5 hours per week into it.

iii) Keep on learning:
Just like in any other business field you can never cease to stop learning. You should keep abreast with the latest trends.

iv) Domaining requires investment:
If you are a .com fan then remember that hand registration will not get you anywhere. Same is the case with other cctlds,
It requires investment just like any other business

v) Take care of your privacy: This point is important for me. So my Whois information is mostly private. Moreover I am buying the domains through my registered company as well.
Reason: Some domain investors will check your data on Namebio and other platforms and then will start bothering you with low balls (considering you dumb as a new entrant). Atleast it happened with me and I was so bothered with them that I decided to take my privacy seriously.
Welcome aboard and good overview. I've been at the business of domaining a year less than you have, but I've taken a totally different approach. I own about a thousand domains and like you, I renew less than 20% YOY. Unlike you however, I have zero technical experience. Fortunately I've attracted a team of professionals who are willing to take a chance, and are helping me to monetize our domains.

Thanks again for sharing(y)
 
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I know everyone says that patience is valuable in this game, but you have to see real examples like this where you REALLY invested a lot of money and STILL had to wait a long time before you saw a return to recognise what it takes to make a success of this

Thank you for sharing this
 
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Thank you for sharing and I am in my second year of domaining and no sale. I need the validation of a few sales and I too intend to share my experience. Interestingly enough I have found some things that I expected to be easy are really difficult and at times something I thought would be hardturns out to be straight forward.
Good luck to both of us.
 
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In addition this industry is like learning howto ride a bicycle or learning how to swim. Despite all the advice one has to do it themselves to fully understand what works at what specific time.
 
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Thanks for sharing your journey. (y)
 
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Welcome to NamePros @Khurram

Thanks for sharing your journey over the years and interesting read.

I agree with all your points except the last one about privacy.

IMO, you shouldn't be bothered much on lowball offers as that's part of this business. I've sold some domains where the initial offer was in 3 figures and ended up selling the domain in 5 figures.

I like the idea of keeping WHOIS public to increase chances of receiving inbound leads via WHOIS. As many people shy away to contact the domain owner when they see the WHOIS email ID is too long and mixed with letters and/or numbers. That possibly makes them think the email ID isn't valid.

Wish you all the best and hope you make more and frequently sales in future.
 
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Interesting Yar ...
I'm in my Second year and the clock still ticks ...
 
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I have been a follower of Namepros for a while, but I have never contributed/ joined this forum. While I am lingering at my home due to the current situation, so I thought of writing and sharing my experience.

Note: Pardon me for any English comprehension mistakes as English is not my first language.
_____

I will breakdown the points to make it easily readable:

How I was introduced to Domaining: My friend and I were planning to set up a Techblog and the next step was to set up a website with a good domain name. We searched one name on the internet, but to our surprise it was priced at around 25 thousands dollars.
Our whole budget was around 1000 dollars for the project. So we decided to hand register. But I was intrigued at the practice of buying and selling domain names.To my surprise I discovered the whole industry behind it.

Which blogs/ programs I followed from the onset:
Domainsherpa was my go-to program from the onset. Moreover I started visiting Namepros.

=> Personalities to follow:
Below are the people that I regularly followed:

i) Mike Carson (I actually follow him even before the introduction to Domaining)
ii) Doron Vermaat
iii) Morgan Linton
iv) Micheal Cyger
v) Abdul Basit
vi) Andrew Rosener (I like this guy. He is a straight shooter)
vii) Konstantinos Zournas
viii) Shane Cultra

=> Primary Registrars:
My primary registrar is Namecheap. For my personal web development projects I always use one European Registrar (Gandi.net). I have heard good stories of Godaddy but my experience with them was not so pleasant (or worse to say the least).

=> Auction Platforms:
i) Namejet
ii) Pool.com
iii) Snapnames
iv) Godaddy Auctions
v) 4.cn (Very famous in Asia)
vi) Flippa

=> Escrow Platforms
escrow.com
_______________________________________________

Year 1:
Initial buying spree and learnings:

I started with hand registering just like many new domainers and afterwards I discovered expireddomains.net. During this time I have registered more than 50 domain names.
I have made landing pages for them and then the waiting game started. For some months I never got any inquiry and I was thinking that I was doing something wrong.

Year 2:
I have decided in year 2 that I will take this seriously and I have invested around 2500 US Dollars. Mostly I concentrated on non .coms, .org,.nets and other cctlds. Moreover I have tried to buy the names from sedo and flippa along with the regular checking of expireddomains.net.

Year 3:
After a setback of the first 2 years with no sales whatsoever I have decided to go back to the drawing board. I had taken a critical look at my 100 domains and I came to the conclusion that the quality of my domains was not good at all.
But it was not easy to swallow my pride and agree to the fact that It was me who bought them in the first place. Then I decided to drop most of them.
At the same time I have decided to pour another 3000 dollars as the final investment.

Sales in year 3:
I was able to sell one .com in mid four figures and I was enthralled. I have decided to reinvest that money back into this business.
In total I was able to sell 4 domains during my third year. And I reached break even and in fact became profitable.

Year 4 (2020):
So far I have been able to sell one domain during this year, but I am satisfied with my performance.
The reason is that I have only 50-60 domains now and I am registering sales even with this small inventory.

Key takeaways:
i) Don’t emotionally attach yourself with domains:

Dropping the domains is an important step for improvement. But if you start loving all of your domain names then you will be doomed.

ii) Domaining is a business not a hobby:
Here I will disagree with many people who term Domaining as a hobby. I cannot consider it a hobby at all. For me it is a business, even if I put only 5 hours per week into it.

iii) Keep on learning:
Just like in any other business field you can never cease to stop learning. You should keep abreast with the latest trends.

iv) Domaining requires investment:
If you are a .com fan then remember that hand registration will not get you anywhere. Same is the case with other cctlds,
It requires investment just like any other business

v) Take care of your privacy: This point is important for me. So my Whois information is mostly private. Moreover I am buying the domains through my registered company as well.
Reason: Some domain investors will check your data on Namebio and other platforms and then will start bothering you with low balls (considering you dumb as a new entrant). Atleast it happened with me and I was so bothered with them that I decided to take my privacy seriously.


Khurram do you mind sharing those 100 domain names? which did not bring sales?
 
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Thanks for your sharing.

i want to know, those domains you sold, are they keyword search terms?

I am trying to decide if keyword search tems domains (eg gethousingloans.com) is still valuable today.
 
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Welcome, and thanks for the detailed and insightful summary! A lot of people (who aren't in the industry) think domaining is just "sitting at home thinking of cool names," but isn't. There's a lot of trial and error, and a learning curve that everyone has to go through.
 
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Khurram do you mind sharing those 100 domain names? which did not bring sales?
Unfortunately I never maintained the list of them as I thought that are of no value to me.
 
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Thanks for your sharing.

i want to know, those domains you sold, are they keyword search terms?

I am trying to decide if keyword search tems domains (eg gethousingloans.com) is still valuable today.

Yes mostly are keywords. But I will add that terms like "gethousingloans.com" are considered too long now a days and they are a long wait.
We should remember that Google Search Engine ranks the websites not on the basis of keywords anymore. SEO is based on many factors and a very complex algorithm is behind it.

In the Past Keywords domain names were important to help in the rankings on the Search page or to generate the ad revenue, but it is not the case anymore.

One Suggestion: I regularly check dngeek.com and it could help you a lot.
 
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Hi, very nice summary. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Really informative and helpful, Thank you, buddy.
 
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Thanks for sharing, rightly analyzed and brief. More golden sales in your domain journey. Bienvenue'''
 
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nice to read you learnt from your early mistakes and persevered to year 3 and some decent sales.
 
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