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Mister Funsky · Feb 22, 2020

Having relatives and friends scattered all over the globe, I am getting an overload of input (some on the record and some off the record).

My intention for this thread is for community members from around the world to post first hand stories and/or links to information sources that, for the most part, should be reliable.

In my community, just outside a major southeastern city, 'assets' have been placed. Only because I have friends in both high and low places have I heard about some of this. At this point it is only some basic medical supplies that should be equally distributed anyway in preparation for a natural emergency (hurricane/wildfire/etc.).

I will start with posting a link to a site with current data that seems to come from an aggregate of sources and hope others will do the same as they come across similar sites/pages.

Because of the 'typhoid Mary' spread-ability of this disease, I feel we may be in for a really large spread globally which will impact the global economy and through extension, retail domain prices.

One thing is for sure...things will get worse before they get better.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa-coronavirus/

Compassion · Apr 16, 2020

Grilled said:
A friend had posted this. I found it helpful.

This is a great basic template for healing in general...coming out of denial,, then acceptance of the situation, then learn, grow and take action

Of course in our own unique healing journeys the details are different....

A little bit outside of our comfort zone is where the growth happens as we persevere.

Chris Hydrick · Apr 16, 2020

Compassion said:
This is a great basic template for healing in general...coming out of denial,, then acceptance of the situation, then learn, grow and take action

Of course in our own unique healing journeys the details are different....

I agree the Fear, Learning, Growth, Action zones are a great basic healing template.

And want to emphasize what you said, about each of us having unique journeys, with different details.

For instance...

In the previous image I posted, some of the examples "action zone" might not be politically correct to all. And such, not necessarily a neutral model.

I noticed Colorado.edu/hr had posted a similar image. The page is currently redirecting to a 404 page, but a cached copy was archived. https://archive.li/KMaYc

Notice, the above image is missing the Action zone.

JB Lions · Apr 16, 2020

Compassion said:
Dr Tenpenny on the Plandemic

Build your immune systems....

No need to inject yourself with materials that are foreign and toxic to your body such as aborted fetal tissue, formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum . . .

Yet another quack.

Some anti-vaxxer with 4 anti-vaxxer books. See other thread of people making money off gullible people.

Checks her Twitter account, typical nutter posts:

#BillGates & the #GatesFoundation really are!!! #GatesofHell #GatesIsEVIL #WHOLiedPeopleDied #GLOBALCOUP

With much recent talk about #hydroxychloroquine , we can't ignore or forget #VitaminC in the fight against #Covid19. Here's a new piece from Prof. John Jones that I just published on #Vaxxter .com! - China Cures CV with Vitamin C

https://twitter.com/x/status/1250592377775030272

Oh, didn't we see that before with some other quack you posted, saying Vitamin C cures Covid-19, the other quack had his own brand of Vitamin C.

Compassion · Apr 16, 2020

JB Lions said:
Yet another quack.

Some anti-vaxxer with 4 anti-vaxxer books. See other thread of people making money off gullible people.

Checks her Twitter account, typical nutter posts:

#BillGates & the #GatesFoundation really are!!! #GatesofHell #GatesIsEVIL #WHOLiedPeopleDied #GLOBALCOUP

With much recent talk about #hydroxychloroquine , we can't ignore or forget #VitaminC in the fight against #Covid19. Here's a new piece from Prof. John Jones that I just published on #Vaxxter .com! - China Cures CV with Vitamin C

https://twitter.com/x/status/1250592377775030272

Oh, didn't we see that before with some other quack you posted, saying Vitamin C cures Covid-19, the other quack had his own brand of Vitamin C.

She's credentialed and intelligent.

You have free will to endear your medical wisdom to Bill Gates - a college drop out with no medical background.

He also wants to depopulate the planet - not a secret.
Vaccines indeed depopulate.

Think more George Orwell 1984 and less Anderson Cooper CNN

And remember "quack" = quicksilver (mercury) - the only Drs using quicksilver now are the MDs who inject it . . .

Compassion · Apr 16, 2020

JB Lions · Apr 16, 2020

Compassion said:
She's credentialed and intelligent.

You have free will to endear your medical wisdom to Bill Gates - a college drop out with no medical background.

He also wants to depopulate the planet - not a secret.
Vaccines indeed depopulate.

Think more George Orwell 1984 and less Anderson Cooper CNN

And remember "quack" = quicksilver (mercury) - the only Drs using quicksilver now are the MDs who inject it . . .

Anybody that says Vitamin C can cure Covid-19 is a quack, a con.

As far as this stupid stuff:

"He also wants to depopulate the planet - not a secret.
Vaccines indeed depopulate."

The truth:

"In other words, Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates is interested in keeping more children alive in order to reduce the need for parents to have more children, thus limiting the overall population growth rate."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

You're spamming this thread with your conspiracy nonsense, there is an existing Nutter thread and a new one started yesterday about the usual nonsense, FEMA coffins, earthworm burgers, Jesse Ventura etc. hop on over there.

You add some Bill Gates graphic/meme, is just more spamming bs.

Compassion · Apr 16, 2020

JB Lions said:
Anybody that says Vitamin C can cure Covid-19 is a quack, a con.

As far as this stupid stuff:

"He also wants to depopulate the planet - not a secret.
Vaccines indeed depopulate."

"In other words, Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates is interested in keeping more children alive in order to reduce the need for parents to have more children, thus limiting the overall population growth rate."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

Clearly the Snopesbot has taken control of the JB pilot seat and rational thought has vanished in favor of the Snopesbot program...

Bill Gates' father was a founding member and executive of Planned Parenthood - The eugenicist ploy.

Depopulation for Gates and his lineage isn't new.

enlytend · Apr 16, 2020

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52305055

Hokkaido was one of the first places to get the pandemic under control... or so they thought. Less than a month after they let up on precautions they’re seeing a second wave.

enlytend · Apr 17, 2020

Why we need comprehensive testing:

"Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic."

I wonder how many of these asymptomatic carriers are walking around spreading the disease to others

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt-idUSKCN21Y2GB

Sutruk · Apr 17, 2020

enlytend said:
Why we need comprehensive testing:

"Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic."

I wonder how many of these asymptomatic carriers are walking around spreading the disease to others

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt-idUSKCN21Y2GB

This virus is a spreading machine because of that.

80% of infected people are asymptomatic, but still with full virus spread potential.

If 80% of infected people were symptomatic, it would be much easier to detect and isolate them, preventing the virus from spreading faster.

The virus has a stealthy and super fast propagation time of 2-3 weeks. Stealthy because during these 2 weeks, it spreads as a silent machine with 100% of asymptomatic infected people.

After these 2 weeks, only 20% of infected people will become symptomatic, but the other 80% will still go unnoticed and continue spreading the virus for some more weeks.

So yes, definitely a comprehensive testing is needed to know exactly what's the expansion of the virus through the population.

Sutruk · Apr 17, 2020

https://thenextweb.com/syndication/...ms-of-coronavirus-heres-what-that-could-mean/

A recent study, published in the British Medical Journal, suggested that 78% of people with COVID-19 have no symptoms.

Meanwhile, a WHO report found that “80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infections and 5% are critical infections”.

https://thenextweb.com/neural/2020/...ocial-distancing-restrictions-relax-too-soon/

MIT’s AI predicts catastrophe if social distancing restrictions relax too soon:

"Our results unequivocally indicate that the countries in which rapid government interventions and strict public health measures for quarantine and isolation were implemented were successful in halting the spread of infection and prevent it from exploding exponentially."

"We further demonstrate that relaxing or reversing quarantine measures right now will lead to an exponential explosion in the infected case count, thus nullifying the role played by all measures implemented in the US since mid March 2020."

Mister Funsky · Apr 17, 2020

Current Covid19 death numbers as of 10:00 am EST are below, primarily from the source in the original post (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus). Please copy and place the list to correct any wrong numbers and/or to add your country of origin.

Total: 148,663
US: 34,641
UK: 14,576
France: 17,920
Spain: 19,315
AU: 65
Italy: 22,170
Canada: 1,195
Brazil: 1,952
Indonesia: 520
India: 452
Japan: 190
Mexico: 486

Below is a link to a book that is/was eerily predictive...written a couple of years ago.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/china-rx-rosemary-gibson/1126839672

Mister Funsky · Apr 17, 2020

enlytend said:
Why we need comprehensive testing:

"Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic."

I wonder how many of these asymptomatic carriers are walking around spreading the disease to others

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt-idUSKCN21Y2GB

My niece is in the Navy and she is terrified because of the lack of testing and the close quarters often required. Our military, regardless of branch, needs the very best we as a nation can offer.

I am all for everyone in the country being tested...but not for the enormous addition to the data base if it is administered through an 'official' agency. Once a reliable self test is available (soon hopefully) the brakes could be put on this bug quickly. I've heard some interesting things regarding the buying of companies actively in the process of launching a home test but there is nothing I can link to...yet. We may see a few whistle-blowers about this soon.

Mister Funsky · Apr 17, 2020

Well, the 'doctor' has spoken...I bet he thinks its just the flu. (in case you didn't know, he is not an MD)

Dr. Phil Claims COVID-19 Shutdowns Are Worse Than The Disease & People Are Furious

https://hollywoodlife.com/2020/04/17/dr-phil-coronavirus-interview-fox-news-reaction/

Sutruk · Apr 17, 2020

Mister Funsky said:
Well, the 'doctor' has spoken...I bet he thinks its just the flu. (in case you didn't know, he is not an MD)

Dr. Phil Claims COVID-19 Shutdowns Are Worse Than The Disease & People Are Furious

https://hollywoodlife.com/2020/04/17/dr-phil-coronavirus-interview-fox-news-reaction/

Another illiterate talking nonsense.

enlytend · Apr 17, 2020

Sutruk said:
We further demonstrate that relaxing or reversing quarantine measures right now will lead to an exponential explosion in the infected case count, thus nullifying the role played by all measures implemented in the US since mid March 2020."

Premature relaxing of social distancing in the summer of 1918 is what led to the deadly second wave of the Spanish flu pandemic that fall.

** oops - typo on the original post!

Sutruk · Apr 17, 2020

enlytend said:
Premature relaxing of social distancing in the summer of 2018 is what led to the deadly second wave of the Spanish flu pandemic that fall.

You mean, the 1918 flu, right?

Yes that happened previously with that flu, 102 years ago... and we should learn from that.

ak1985 · Apr 17, 2020

Mister Funsky said:
Current Covid19 death numbers as of 10:00 am EST are below, primarily from the source in the original post (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus). Please copy and place the list to correct any wrong numbers and/or to add your country of origin.

Total: 148,663
US: 34,641
UK: 14,576
France: 17,920
Spain: 19,315
AU: 65
Italy: 22,170
Canada: 1,195
Brazil: 1,952
Indonesia: 520
India: 452
Japan: 190
Mexico: 486

Below is a link to a book that is/was eerily predictive...written a couple of years ago.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/china-rx-rosemary-gibson/1126839672

actually 40% of america's medicines and 20% of UK's medicines come from India. Indian pharma companies stocks have been rising since last 5 days since the supply of hydroxychloroquine to many countries.

enlytend · Apr 17, 2020

ak1985 said:
actually 40% of america's medicines and 20% of UK's medicines come from India. Indian pharma companies stocks have been rising since last 5 days since the supply of hydroxychloroquine to many countries.

However I believe hydroxychloroquine trials have already beeen suspended in some countries (Spain?) because of an unacceptable rate of resulting deaths and serious complications.

Remdesivir (or something yet to be discovered) may turn out to be a safer and more effective treatment.

J Sokol · Apr 17, 2020

Sutruk said:
"Our results unequivocally indicate that the countries in which rapid government interventions and strict public health measures for quarantine and isolation were implemented were successful in halting the spread of infection and prevent it from exploding exponentially."

Here's more data to support the case for social distancing:

"The bump in coronavirus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma saw a 53% increase in cases over the past week, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Over same time, cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/republican-governors-stay-at-home-coronavirus/index.html

ak1985 · Apr 18, 2020

enlytend said:
However I believe hydroxychloroquine trials have already beeen suspended in some countries (Spain?) because of an unacceptable rate of resulting deaths and serious complications.

Remdesivir (or something yet to be discovered) may turn out to be a safer and more effective treatment.

I did not know that it's causing deaths and complications. I think it was working for some patients. Obviously it's meant for malaria treatment originally. Some countries are still interested in it though.

enlytend · Apr 18, 2020

ak1985 said:
I did not know that it's causing deaths and complications. I think it was working for some patients. Obviously it's meant for malaria treatment originally. Some countries are still interested in it though.

Not my favorite source, but here’s one instance where it was discontinued due to severe side effects.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ine-coronavirus-patients-adverse-effects.html

Great Britain is opting not to use until efficacy and safety are better understood. There isn’t very much data as to how well it even works.

Some people take it for Lupus. It does have scary side effects though.

Mister Funsky · Apr 18, 2020

Current Covid19 death numbers as of 10:00 am EST are below, primarily from the source in the original post (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus). Please copy and place the list to correct any wrong numbers and/or to add your country of origin.

Total: 156,114
US: 37,175
UK: 15,464
France: 18,681
Spain: 20,043
AU: 69
Italy: 22,745
Canada: 1,310
Brazil: 2,181
Indonesia: 535
India: 488
Japan: 190
Mexico: 546

Cal2 · Apr 18, 2020

enlytend said:
Not my favorite source, but here’s one instance where i was discontinued due to severe side effects.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ine-coronavirus-patients-adverse-effects.html

Also Brazil: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...atients-washalted-after11deaths-idUSKBN21Z395

A video uses lasers to show how you spit when you talk

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/17/...h-particles-mask-laser-droplets-visualization

Cal2 · Apr 18, 2020

Mister Funsky said:
I am all for everyone in the country being tested...but not for the enormous addition to the data base if it is administered through an 'official' agency. Once a reliable self test is available (soon hopefully) the brakes could be put on this bug quickly.

Here's a self test I just came across. How reliable.... could be pretty good, even as an add-on to other self testing(?) Available to most, cheap.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...-to-combat-covid-19/ar-BB12PUdI?ocid=msedgdhp

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