registrars Dynadot tops Namepros registrar safety poll

Grilled said:

4) Namesilo > https://www.namesilo.com/Support/Expiration-Process

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5) NameBright > https://www.namebright.com/Terms


6) GoDaddy > https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-happens-when-my-domain-expires-609

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that's why I never consider these three registrars.

For me, “safety” means basically you can protect your name from a lose. If my names are registered with dynadot, the names can be more easily to be lost due to Financial stress or their auth code experience, compare to some others.

This is my “subjective” view with reasons stated above

omelet said:

that's why I never consider these three registrars.

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Noted and partly agree.

If any registrars are listening or are looking for feedback **nudge @Kristaps @ NameSilo** on areas to improve upon, I'd say (for me at least) the topic of redemption timeline/fee's is a contributing metric to consider.

Generally speaking, IF fair priced renewals + active and responsive on nP + best in class renewal /redemption policy THAN = I feel comfortable renewing and housing my domains with that registrar.

Here is the strategy to beat all of competitors if registrars can


- Keep 40 days grace period
- no extra $10 fee in last 10 days
- allow domains transferred out with instant auth code provision
- competitive renew fee, like $8.49 for .com
- nicer design and more friendly features


Simply a few steps. Anyone who can achieve these will Become the NO1 among registrars.

Many registrars thought adding $10, shorten the grace period, or bring hardness to transfer away, can earn them more benefit or cover expenses, but that’s also the exact reasons for domainers to leave.

omelet said:

- Keep 40 days grace period
- no extra $10 fee in last 10 days
- allow domains transferred out with instant auth code provision
- competitive renew fee, like $8.49 for .com


Simply 3 steps. Anyone who can achieve these three, they will Become the NO1 among registrars

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This could be why I keep hearing great things about porkbun.com

https://kb.porkbun.com/article/37-what-happens-after-a-domain-expires

For the first 10 days, nothing. Your domain will keep resolving as before.

Your domain will be made to stop resolving DNS requests ten days after it expires. It can be renewed at the normal renewal price for the first 29-30 days after expiration. These 29-30 days are called the “Auto-Renew Grace Period.”

For days 30-31 through 36-37, the domain is put up for auction through Dynadot. You may still renew the domain during this time at the standard renewal fee. If the domain is purchased at auction it will be transferred to the winner at the end of this seven day period.

For days 37-38 through 39-40, if the domain was not purchased at auction, it will remain available for renewal at the standard renewal fee.

For days 40-41 through 69-70, the domain passes into the "Redemption Grace Period." The domain is seized by its registry (see: " What is a registry?") and can be redeemed for $120 plus the normal renewal fee.

From days 70-71 through 74-75, it will be "Pending Delete" and can no longer be redeemed. On or around the 75th or 76th day, it will either be released to the public or reserved by its registry.

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.com renewal looks to be $8.56 @ porkbun.com < compared to $8.38 .com renewal @ SAV.com

Grilled said:

.com renewal looks to be $8.56 for @ porkbun.com. < compared to $8.38 .com renewal @ Sav.com.

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Please no “promos”
Sav doesnt accept paypal, zero NP presence
This promo Sav price, since they launched,
not permanent as you’re suggesting.

And Dan doesnt accept Sav names

i dont believe in Sav

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omelet said:

As a domainer who holds thousand of domains, I have my pain with dynadot. Here is the mockup situation:

- hundreds of domains are expired, for example, this is the 31st day ( if you ask why not renew earlier? Well, many possible reasons, like no cash flow, or some other typical reasons domainers have). Let's compare the opportunity cost of renewal all or part of them, let's take 50 as the number to renew:

1), at Dynadot (grace period: 40 days, but last 10 days require $10 extra late fee)

• Renew: ($10 + $8.99) * 50 = $949.50
• Transfer away:
  • Unable to unlock and receive auth code by yourself;
  • Have to email Dynadot staff to request for unlock and auth codes. This usually need to wait for half day to 2 days
  • If their staff unlocked for you but you don't take action immediately, soon later the names will be locked again and you lose the chance to receive the auth codes; then you have to beg them to re-unlock the domains again, then wait for their responses. If this happened btw 30th - 40th days, you will be easily wasted 3+ days just waiting and negotiating with them. and,
    
  • It is no way to transfer away in the last 48 hours of the entire grace period, paying $949.50 would be the only option and the cheapest option during last 48 hours.

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Your main gripe seems to be their unlocking process. I don't know why you are renewing all your domains in the last 10/40 days but you can get the unlock requesting removed. I don't have to request for it through live chat, it just asks me for my birthday & 2factor.

omelet said:

also I am not sure why Dynadot transferred my Uniregistry names to their auction market. I have a domain name which i bought at $2000 US was transferred to their auction market. I could no longer to even pay Uniregistry the redemption fee to get it back. Uni has no way to get it back, and Dynadot said the domain already won by someone else and I need to contact the new owner.

Why Dynadot can transfer other registrar names to their auction market? Anyone knews? This is not the first time, this has happened several times.

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You need to contact Uni about that. They are the one's who transferred your domains to Dynadot Auctions. Not Dynadot. This is the kind of problem you can encounter when you play fast and loose with your redemption dates, and you don't understand the terms of your registrar. Or they haven't explained it correctly to you.

It's simple, renew your domains and you won't loose them.

omelet said:

As a domainer who holds thousand of domains, I have my pain with dynadot. Here is the mockup situation:

- hundreds of domains are expired, for example, this is the 31st day ( if you ask why not renew earlier? Well, many possible reasons, like no cash flow, or some other typical reasons domainers have). Let's compare the opportunity cost of renewal all or part of them, let's take 50 as the number to renew:

1), at Dynadot (grace period: 40 days, but last 10 days require $10 extra late fee)

• Renew: ($10 + $8.99) * 50 = $949.50
• Transfer away:
  • Unable to unlock and receive auth code by yourself;
  • Have to email Dynadot staff to request for unlock and auth codes. This usually need to wait for half day to 2 days
  • If their staff unlocked for you but you don't take action immediately, soon later the names will be locked again and you lose the chance to receive the auth codes; then you have to beg them to re-unlock the domains again, then wait for their responses. If this happened btw 30th - 40th days, you will be easily wasted 3+ days just waiting and negotiating with them. and,
    
  • It is no way to transfer away in the last 48 hours of the entire grace period, paying $949.50 would be the only option and the cheapest option during last 48 hours.

2), at Uniregistry (grace period: 40 days, but last 10 days require $10 extra late fee)

• Renew: ($10 + $8.49) * 50= $924.50 (price almost same)
  
• Transfer away:
  • Can download excel sheet with renewable names (within 40 days) and auth codes, no need to wait

3), at Epik (grace period: 35 days, can request for special treatment if send emails)

• Renew: $8.49 * 50 = $424.50
• Transfer away:
  • unlock and check auth code immediately

For the domainers like me who manage large volume of expired domains monthly, Dynadot, among the three registrars, is the one who delivered the worst experiences.

• Financially no advantage
• The transfer experience is also really unpleasant, and terrible.

@

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eurorealtor said:

It's simple, renew your domains and you won't loose them.

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hahaha of course if we can. But if you hold 3000+ domains, monthly 300 domains expired/ expiring, meaning $XXXX expenses. Domaining income has ups and downs, that's why we have to care about which registrar can offer us better services to smooth our stresses.

If all registrars have exact same policies, we won't complain and compare; but if some plays better than others, we have to know and decide which we should go. Simple.


Are you hungry? It's simple, eat food and you won't feel hungry
Are you cold? It's simple, wear more clothes and you won't feel cold
Are you sad? It's simple, be happy and you won't be sad.

In conclusion, when we are discussing “safety” of a registrar, we should evaluate their performance under some extreme circumstance such as within grace period. This is the more often happened situation we as little domainers must relate to “safety” of our domains.


Plus, Features such as “Anti theft”, “two factor verification” or “Whois privacy” look like not big different btw registrars. And if you can renew the domain for 10 years and then of course you will never have to worry about grace period and expiration issues.



Of course losing a domain should not be only the registrar’s responsibility, I agree it is more domainer’s own issues. But reality is “go with some registrars can always be more safe than with the others, when your domains are expired, for example”. If selecting different registrars can make a difference, for me, which can allow me better chances to save my domains, then I can simply say which is more safe.

omelet said:

Totally disagree. Never got a chance to vote....

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A lot of members did not get a chance to vote, including many additional members who would have voted for Dynadot, as indicated by previous polls.

D Haynes said:

Didn't know there was even a vote.

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jmaurya said:

Total votes only 180

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This poll ran for much less time than the "best registrar" poll, which is why there were less votes.

However, 180 votes in this industry is still a sufficient sample size to determine who would have won even if it ran longer, especially given how few fake votes can take place in NamePros polls (unlike polls run on blogs where anyone can easily manipulate blog poll results).

NamePros also has new features coming to NamePros polls that will make them equivalent to, or surpass, any other online poll service out there.

We hope the pollster for the registrar poll(s) next year will be impressed.

Samer said:

Sav doesnt accept paypal, zero NP presence

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@Nick R is a team member of Sav.com

We hope that helps.

omelet said:

Staffs here

i have two .tv domain registered with Uniregistry in late grace / early redemption, usually I can get them back within uniregistry system, however, it showed names have been transferred away by dynadot. When I noticed, the domains have been auctioned and can no longer get back

This Is super embarrassed. How come dynadot can touch uniregistry names?

This happened a lot of times in previous years

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We have been partnered with Uniregistry for a short while and their expired domains can now be listed in our expired domain auctions. The domains purchased through our expired auctions should still only be removed from your account at the end of your grace renewal period however, so you may wish to contact Uniregistry's support team if that wasn't the case with the domains you're referring to.

Hello All. We are on NP! Feel free to tag us if we can answer anything specific.

equity78 said:

In a poll that was not as celebrated as best registrar, Dynadot won the title for something many registrars find important. Safety. Things like a registrars’ overall security. Do they have a strong Financial position. How do they handle your privacy when prompted by say a government agency. Do you feel safest when it comes […]

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Thanks for sharing the results!

omelet said:

Totally disagree. Never got a chance to vote....

I had a few expired domains which still in grace period got transferred away to Dynadot auction market...this happened a few times that I feel not secure with Dynadot

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Sad to hear about that. The only registrar that did that with me was OnlineNIC.

@omelet -I own more domains than you. I understand perfectly well the principal of renewals are continuous, and sales are sporadic. How I handle this is to try to renew all the domains which I want to renew for those expiring at the beginning of the month of expiry. But because of the sporadic sales, it is not always possible. Basically. If you can't do that there is something wrong with your strategy. Over-invested. IMHO. Sometimes I can only renew half of the domains I want to renew at the beginning of the month. And the rest of my wanted renewals by the end of the month. And because this is a slippery slope slide, my renewals for the following month are delayed. So as this process has developed, I've developed a strategy of dropping more and more domains. And only keeping my most valuable and the domains which I think have the most chance of selling, IMHO. Which opinion is often biased and wrong. I have set a goal of dropping about 50% of my domains over 2020. My actual to date, is approx a third. I sometimes have 2nd thoughts about domains I have decided to drop. I probably pay the $10 charge for renewal between 30-40 days on 2 or 3 domains every month. This strategy has been working for me. But without sales I'm probably going to have to be more aggressive before the end of this year.

omelet said:

Totally disagree. Never got a chance to vote....

I had a few expired domains which still in grace period got transferred away to Dynadot auction market...this happened a few times that I feel not secure with Dynadot

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Sounds like a personal problem... renew your domains! It’s not that hard.

I don’t even think registrars should allow more then 30days

They make it so simple for you... auto renew.

Steven McEvoy said:

Sounds like a personal problem... renew your domains! It’s not that hard.

I don’t even think registrars should allow more then 30days

They make it so simple for you... auto renew.

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Brilliant.

Mod Team Bravo said:

A lot of members did not get a chance to vote, including many additional members who would have voted for Dynadot, as indicated by previous polls.



This poll ran for much less time than the "best registrar" poll, which is why there were less votes.

However, 180 votes in this industry is still a sufficient sample size to determine who would have won even if it ran longer, especially given how few fake votes can take place in NamePros polls (unlike polls run on blogs where anyone can easily manipulate blog poll results).

NamePros also has new features coming to NamePros polls that will make them equivalent to, or surpass, any other online poll service out there.

We hope the pollster for the registrar poll(s) next year will be impressed.


@Nick R is a team member of Sav.com

We hope that helps.

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Its would better if poll about registrar only provided by Namepros Team and set minimum time 30 - 90 days, cause there are many registrar and I feel Namepros respect to all registrars

Samer said:

You put Dynadot on Godaddy's level

Godaddy is my least favorite.

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You meant NS buddy?