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Right now are for reg. at Epik.com
I don't know if other registrar ofer for registration .O
Notice also already few of them sold on Namepros
Any idea how to be setup on/for VPN to add content ?
Personal i reg. few among them: Mexic.o, Tatto.o , Cong.o , Audi.o , Radi.o , SanFrancisc.o &
Toky.o - for 2021 :xf.wink:
Show here your registration & your opinion or any info


Kind regards,
Ovi
 
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As a country manager at Epik, it's your responsibility to clarify instead of asking the questions.

That's okay but Epik does not say it's not a normal domain http://archive.is/sgdnv which can be called misleading in plain terms.

You should explain why other registrars are not offering the registration of .O (sic) and what made Epik to be the cheerleader.

Yes, saw a few listed in namepros, no comments on this.

doesn't it sound funny, the guy propagating something is asking community members how to use it?

The names you registered are well beyond good if it works like normal domains.

No, till now I am not convinced and hence not registered any.
My opinion is, stop calling anyone a troll if they ask questions.
Update will come soon as possible , how can be set / use
 
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I don't know enough to comment on their viability as domain names or investments. Operating outside the standard DNS ecosystem, while potentially having some advantages, is also potentially fraught with serious problems. While it is easy to find fault with ICANN procedures, UDRP proceedings, etc., the incredibly short wording re, for example, how an alternative DNS space name might be taken away is worrisome.

I think that currently, with the software used by vast majority of Internet users not resolving them, the retail market will probably be very limited.

I believe that when alternate space (i.e. non directly resolvable) names are put for sale on NamePros or on other platforms like NameLiquidate, where I have seen a few listed, their should be some clear warning that they are alternative domain space names, like the main marketplaces do with IDN, for example.

This link from the OpenNIC wiki has information on some of the questions asked near the top of the thread re DNS resolvers, browser plug-ins (seems Firefox and Chrome have) to support them, etc.

I have not personally tried any of this (nor invested in any).

Bob
 
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I believe that when alternate space (i.e. non directly resolvable) names are put for sale on NamePros or on other platforms like NameLiquidate, where I have seen a few listed, their should be some clear warning that they are alternative domain space names, like the main marketplaces do with IDN, for example.

Hi

I concur with Bob and feel registrar should have had notice in place, prior to launching.

Also agree that NP should require such sales threads to include information about ALT domains.

imo...
 
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I didn’t realize it was alt domain until I had purchased them. I registered 39
 
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I didn’t realize it was alt domain until I had purchased them. I registered 39
This is a clear case of intentional fraud by the registrar.
 
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This is a clear case of intentional fraud by the registrar.
No is not , because after registration a email is sent with instructions
imo fraud is made by some registry like: Afillias , Neustar etc. that reserved the domains ll , lll , ccc , premium keywords after expire & they sold at high prices .
WHY ? Sunrise or Landrush was made when they are introduced.
But ICANN or other legal entities DO NOTHING . WHY ? BECAUSE THEY GREED
& affected you , me and most of us
 
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I’m not gonna say all that. I’ll just say I could have researched it myself before I started buying them. If I had know they were alt domains I probably would have only bought a couple. But I have them now so I will keep them
 
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No is not , because after registration a email is sent with instructions
imo fraud is made by some registry like: Afillias , Neustar etc. that reserved the domains ll , lll , ccc , premium keywords after expire & they sold at high prices .
WHY ? Sunrise or Landrush was made when they are introduced.
But ICANN or other legal entities DO NOTHING . WHY ? BECAUSE THEY GREED
& affected you , me and most of us
Agreed, they are greedy, but they were transparent about what they are doing. At least they don't "after registration a email is sent with instructions" in your words.
 
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And yes I got emails but I didn’t read them because I thought they were just confirmation emails that I had registered the domains. But that is my fault I didn’t read them because the email does say they are alt domains.
 
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Agreed, they are greedy, but they were transparent about what they are doing. At least they don't "after registration a email is sent with instructions" in your words.
I am sure will be all good & tech specs will be bring to people
 
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And yes I got emails but I didn’t read them because I thought they were just confirmation emails that I had registered the domains. But that is my fault I didn’t read them because the email does say they are alt domains.
But that was after you purchased, Registrars should be fair enough to say that before, isn't it?
 
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Never having registered one, I don't know what the email sent says, but agree there should be some indication that they are an alternative domain space prior to registration, which as far as I can see there is not as of today. If the email provides an option to delete without cost penalty, then while less satisfactory, to me that is perhaps adequate.

While I agree that each of us should research before any acquisition, I also think those selling, either as registrations or in aftermarket, should make the nature clear.

In the terms of use of .o, which has been around a few years, it says this (I added bolding):

"Abuse
mTLD will not tolerate the following behavior, and use of our domains for any of the following is grounds for termination: * - Domain squatting - Spam email delivery - Malware distribution - Malicious interference with computer systems"

Without, as far as I can see, defining what squatting is in their opinion. While the proper legal definition of squatting is narrow involving names that infringe on those with use or registration intellectual property rights, many domain investor critics use the term as essentially holding a domain name you do not plan to use. Has anyone found any elaboration on the meaning in the OpenNIC system?

Bob
 
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.O is a VPN domain, and can only be accessed through a personal server. or a .Bit extention on Google, FireFox ec.. They are exactly like .coin, .bit, .geek, etc..... They are good for those who want more privacy and protection for their websites. And are currently Non-Icann approved.
 
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It is not Epiks fault if you do not research what you are buying, Thats Domaining 101. Also, you can not add VPN domains to Sedo, Afternic, Dan etc
 
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But that was after you purchased, Registrars should be fair enough to say that before, isn't it?
Yes, I agree. But for me I did not purchase all of them at once. I made more than one purchase. I should have read the emails after the first purchase.
 
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They are exactly like .coin, .bit, .geek, etc.....
Yes, although to prevent confusion, want to add that .bit was dropped by OpenNIC due to flagrant misuse of the extension, allegedly, according to this article.

Re doing your own homework, totally agree.

In many ways Epik have better transparency on many things - e.g. their pricing page. When you hover over the little i just before registration. it shows you what the various pricing will be, so you are not tricked into thinking that the domain name renewal is necessarily the same as what you are paying (for .o it is the same).

I would think either there, or somewhere else obvious, having a link to the OpenNIC page with an indication that this is an alternative domain space would be advisable and sufficient.

Bob
 
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It is not Epiks fault if you do not research what you are buying, Thats Domaining 101. Also, you can not add VPN domains to Sedo, Afternic, Dan etc
So it's taken for granted whoever purchases a domain is an expert about domain names? Most end users hardly know about all this stuff.
I am not against alternate domains and support decentralisation. But I should be given the proper information to choose something knowing what it is. If I like I opt, if not I don't.
 
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Yes, I agree. But for me I did not purchase all of them at once. I made more than one purchase. I should have read the emails after the first purchase.

If only more people did that ^^^ Acknowledge there own mistakes. The world be a better place.
Awesome @Rammbo take not put the whole of the fault on Epik. But to take it yourself.
 
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So it's taken for granted whoever purchases a domain is an expert about domain names? Most end users hardly know about all this stuff.
I am not against alternate domains and support decentralisation. But I should be given the proper information to choose something knowing what it is. If I like I opt, if not I don't.

I am saying, if you are a domainer, and have been doing so for 6+ Months. It is common sense to research the TLD if you have never seen it. Instead, you want to rush into something and when it doesn't turn out like you expected, blame the registrar? How much sense does that make? My opinion is, if you DO NOT do research on something YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT, and you purchase it anyway, IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT. as well as those "End-buyers". Do you really think 90% of them are going to pay 1000s of dollars on something they haven't done research on?
 
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@ikhub and i am not saying "You" as in "You - yourself" i mean by domainers or people in general. i wanted to clarify the "You" i was referring
 
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I am saying, if you are a domainer, and have been doing so for 6+ Months. It is common sense to research the TLD if you have never seen it. Instead, you want to rush into something and when it doesn't turn out like you expected, blame the registrar? How much sense does that make? My opinion is, if you DO NOT do research on something YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT, and you purchase it anyway, IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT. as well as those "End-buyers". Do you really think 90% of them are going to pay 1000s of dollars on something they haven't done research on?
So as a domainer I should not trust my registrar anymore and do my own research because the registrar can pass on me an alt domain without informing me?
 
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An alt domain is not a domain in the sense that 99.999% of the people know domains. So yeah, it is a registrars duty to inform you or stop selling that stuff all together. They shouldn't even be listing those 'TLDs' when you perform a domain search in the first place.

It's 100% misleading when there are thousands of new extensions.

@Bob Hawkes pointed out some issues with the .o tos. Here's another beauty:

"Use of this TLD is not a given right to any holder, and domain names may be revoked by the mTLD administration team or by a vote of domain holders (henceforth known as “Members”), especially pertaining to violations of our policies (see Section 2)."

Like Bob mentioned, not sure if that's better than ICANN and kinda defeats the purpose of alt domains. they're ment to be 'unstoppable', like .crypto.
 
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So these 'fun tlds' are all opennic. If I recall correctly their wholesale pricing to register a domain is... $0.

Anybody knows more about this? Signed up. Their verification link fails me and their website (.o 'registry') moderntld.com isn't loading as well.

Would love to check what registrars are selling this and how they justify a $5 pricetag.
 
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