Why and how Epik allows CoronaVirus domains to be listed

Rob Monster said:

It is one thing to say: "please update your website to show this text. We would really appreciate it".

It is another thing to say: "you must update your site immediately or your site won't resolve."

The latter is censorship.

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it would be more effective to include it into the nameservers
or browsers

Rob Monster said:

As long as domains are being used lawfully and responsibly, let them be used.

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How do you enforce that? And how do you judge what is responsible?

Rob Monster said:

In my particular case, I owned UVSanitizer.com for many years. The appraised value was above $20K. I sold it for $6500 and was hoping to see it in use. So far it is still parked. I guess I sold it too cheap.

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Can you prove this sale?

Rob Monster said:

If you think it is ethical to force manufactured consensus through approved media outlets, that is your prerogative.

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Do you believe that CDC, WHO, and other countries' counterpart organizations are manufactured consensus?

Rob Monster said:

Does the fact that there are criminals in society mean that we should lock up everyone?

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Again, immoral does not equal criminal. Your are looking at the world through a black and white lense.

Let me ask you this. Who do you trust to provide accurate information on the COVID-19 crisis?

TCK said:

How do you enforce that? And how do you judge what is responsible?

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Case by case. It's called discernment. Mature adults have it but most are too lazy to use it.

If folks abuse our marketplace with outlandish BIN prices for COVID domains, we'll move all COVID-related domains to "Make Offer".

TCK said:

Can you prove this sale?

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Sure, it was PayPal transaction ID Transaction ID: 2M843585BV069284V on March 17 for $6500. If someone I trust wants to audit the transaction, I will send the screen shot of the transaction detail for independent auditing. I don't find it to be so impressive but perhaps it impresses you.

TCK said:

Let me ask you this. Who do you trust to provide accurate information on the COVID-19 crisis?

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Huh? How is that a topic? Have I publicly questioned the official narrative? No, I have not.

Sure, people are dying en masse.

Do you know what the survival rate is on a ventilator for someone with COVID-19? About 20%. Don't believe me? Read Lancet.

Fortunately God is merciful. You get about about a week of fever, vomiting and diarrhea, and then if it gets to your lungs, you will have less than 24 hours. Contrary to urban legend, the ventilators don't help that much.

The best respiratory therapists in the USA are in Seattle. Survival rate there? It is not all that better with a 30% survival rate, assuming there are any competent respiratory therapists available!

So, for folks who get this in a bad way, I offer this prayer:

https://coronaprayer.com/

I give it a lot more chance of success than any ventilator! However, I suggest don't wait for the lung infection to seek God's mercy.

Rob Monster said:

Do you know what the survival rate is on a ventilator for someone with COVID-19? About 20%. Don't believe me? Read Lancet.

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Can you provide the quote? Could not find ~20% quote.

Rob Monster said:

Contrary to urban legend, the ventilators don't help that much.

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Urban legend? What is your source?

TCK said:

Can you provide the quote? Could not find ~20% quote.

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Here is the screen shot of the 1st paragraph:

TCK said:

Really? Isn't that like Satan telling Jesus to go throw himself off the wall of the temple to put God to the test?

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Non sequitur.

Use all precautions. Use medical intervention as needed.

Pray.

It is not an either/or. It is both.

Related comment

https://www.namepros.com/threads/mu...t-editable-thread.1163950/page-2#post-7689830

TCK said:

Can you provide the quote? Could not find ~20% quote.

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"ICU mortality rate among those who required non-invasive ventilation; 23 (79%) of 29..."

21%

Chinese herbs are one reason numbers improved after the initial shock in China...I can share a video showing one province with great success treating with herb formulas

TCK said:

Urban legend? What is your source?

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Please try a little harder:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-rich-in-us-trying-to-buy-their-own-ventilators-2020-3

https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/11898-fearing-covid-19-russian-oligarchs-buy-their-own-ventilators

ICYMI, automated ventilators are a lot harder to operate than a defibrillator.

Rob Monster said:

Please try a little harder:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-rich-in-us-trying-to-buy-their-own-ventilators-2020-3

https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/11898-fearing-covid-19-russian-oligarchs-buy-their-own-ventilators

ICYMI, automated ventilators are a lot harder to operate than a defibrillator.

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Interesting you are quoting mainstream media. Can you isolate the specific quotes that support it is an urban legend?

Samer said:

"ICU mortality rate among those who required non-invasive ventilation; 23 (79%) of 29..."

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None of us are doctors or experts in the area. My step-father was in ICU before he was moved palliative care and eventually died. My understanding is that ICU is for extreme cases.

TCK said:

Interesting you are quoting mainstream media. Can you isolate the specific quotes that support it is an urban legend?



None of us are doctors or experts in the area. My step-father was in ICU before he was moved palliative care and eventually died. My understanding is that ICU is for extreme cases.

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I dont claim to be an expert too. mortality actually drops to 14% for invasive ventilators.

Do know difference "invasive" and "non invasive" ventilators?

I didnt even know were two types!

TCK said:

Interesting you are quoting mainstream media. Can you isolate the specific quotes that support it is an urban legend?

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The urban legend is that the ventilators are going to save you. Please stop being daft. The mortality rates clearly show you that your odds are far better playing Russian Roulette.

Rob Monster said:

The urban legend is that the ventilators are going to save you. Please stop being daft. The mortality rates clearly show you that your odds are far better playing Russian Roulette.

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You still haven't supported your claim. Please read my response. Be careful of spreading incorrect info. It can cost lives.

TCK said:

My understanding is that ICU is for extreme cases.

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Indeed. Intensive care unit is for those who are on the brink of death.

We are seeing this strain of pathogen sending people to the icu who primarily already have underlying conditions.

Samer said:

I dont claim to be an expert too. number actually decreases to 14% for invasive...

Do know difference "invasive" and "non invasive" ventilators?

I didnt even know were two types!

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I've been on an invasive ventilator while in a coma for five days....basically a tube is shoved down your throat and a machine breathes for you.

Luckily, fortunately, I woke up and have been rooted in my life purpose for a great while now.....and never been to the ER since.

TCK said:

You still haven't supported your claim. Please read my response. Be careful of spreading incorrect info. It can cost lives.

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ICYMI, my wife is a doctor in Seattle. Their clinic is still operating. She is intimately familiar with the status of COVID treatment, speaking directly with hospital directors of hospitals in Seattle. The info presented was a reference to one of the leading medical journals called Lancet. Please go waste someone else's time rather than engage in endless circular logic and non sequitur. Nobody has time for that nonsense.

Compassion said:

I've been on an invasive ventilator while in a coma for five days....basically a tube is shoved down your throat and a machine breathes for you.

Luckily, fortunately, I woke up and have been rooted in my life purpose for a great while now.....and never been to the ER since.

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Awesome. Glad to hear you made it through! You now know the odds and can appreciate that you were probably kept alive for a reason. If you don't mind sharing, what's your life purpose?

Rob Monster said:

ICYMI, my wife is a doctor in Seattle. Their clinic is still operating. She is intimately familiar with the status of COVID treatment, speaking directly with hospital directors of hospitals in Seattle. The info presented was a reference to one of the leading medical journals called Lancet. Please go waste someone else's time rather than engage in endless circular logic and non sequitur. Nobody has time for that nonsense.

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So yours and your wife's position is that ventilators are unnecessary for those with COVID-19, including those with prior health issues. Just to be clear. It's good to have all the info possible.

TCK said:

So yours and your wife's position is that ventilators are unnecessary for those with COVID-19, including those with prior health issues. Just to be clear. It's good to have all the info possible.

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It is a hail Mary. When the lungs fill with fluid, it is the fallback plan. If you get to that point, I am pretty sure your best option is prayer before the lungs fill up completely and you drown in your own fluid. It is literally something that plays out in a matter of hours, and with patients in quarantine, little chance for goodbyes.

Rob Monster said:

Awesome. Glad to hear you made it through! You now know the odds and can appreciate that you were probably kept alive for a reason. If you don't mind sharing, what's your life purpose?

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Thanks.

To show the way of the dao, teach the truth about energy and to activate the healer within that lives in each of us.

Rob Monster said:

If folks abuse our marketplace with outlandish BIN prices for COVID domains, we'll move all COVID-related domains to "Make Offer".

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Censorship? Free Speech? Free Market?

Rob Monster said:

Survival rate there? It is not all that better with a 30% survival rate, assuming there are any competent respiratory therapists available!

So, for folks who get this in a bad way, I offer this prayer:

https://coronaprayer.com/

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what is the survival rate on prayers?

Ugh.

You bad boys have fun now. Going nowhere, real fast I see. I can count on one hand, the number of passengers. Perhaps, leave that car behind?

Germany, prayers are 100% survival- they are one of the oldest forms of instilling hope and connecting with one another, especially through times of turmoil. Prayer is an unbreakable bond of faith.

Ostrados said:

Someone can use these domains to help people during this deadly pandemic, others may use these domains to save lifes. When all coronavirus domains are taken, no option left but to pay $$$$, that money that will be spent by health organizations on domains worldwide could be saved to be spent on medical equipments to help infected people and save lifes!

But selfish people will never see the full picture because they just dont care, they only care about their own profits. Ethics are not even relevant for many people, they just call it capitalism and move on. OMG

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I can appreciate that- and I can't think of a single respectful member who wouldn't, Ostrados. It's just, I think we are missing the bigger picture here, which is unfortunate, because this is how it happens. It's like baby steps towards totalitarianism, and then all of a sudden, we're all asking "how did we get here?".

I wasn't going to post any more on this, but I saw a thread on Reddit earlier today about reporting price gouging in regards to coronavirus, looking at follow up replies and looking more into this myself many countries have websites set up to report price gouging and people trying to profit from coronavirus, in America they do it independently (state by state).

I know California have a law "When the governor declares a state of emergency, a price gouging statute kicks in. The law generally prohibits charging a price that is more than 10% what an item cost before the state (or local) declaration of emergency."

I'm not sure about other states, but California have declared a state of emergency due to coronavirus, as domains cost $8-$10 and asking prices are now being put on these domains for 3/4 and 5 figures, that is obviously more than 10%.

Epik seeing competitors banning these domains on their marketplaces but publicly advertising their own marketplace for people to sell their cornonavirus domains (ie profit from coronavirus) and Epik profiting too from any sales too, a very fine line is being walked i feel.

This is bigger than 'choice' and 'freedom' most of the world have lost their freedoms and liberty right now due to coronavirus, because it's more than that (life and death), something the world hasn't seen on a large scale for 100 years.

It's not a decision for me and i don't think they will anyway, but i do hope Epik reconsider their decision on this.

This is the last i will be posting in this thread.

Good luck to everyone and stay safe.

Kingslayer said:

I wasn't going to post any more on this, but I saw a thread on Reddit earlier today about reporting price gouging in regards to coronavirus, looking at follow up replies and looking more into this myself many countries have websites set up to report price gouging and people trying to profit from coronavirus, in America they do it independently (state by state).

I know California have a law "When the governor declares a state of emergency, a price gouging statute kicks in. The law generally prohibits charging a price that is more than 10% what an item cost before the state (or local) declaration of emergency."

I'm not sure about other states, but California have declared a state of emergency due to coronavirus, as domains cost $8-$10 and asking prices are now being put on these domains for 3/4 and 5 figures, that is obviously more than 10%.

Epik seeing competitors banning these domains on their marketplaces but publicly advertising their own marketplace for people to sell their cornonavirus domains (ie profit from coronavirus) and Epik profiting too from any sales too, a very fine line is being walked i feel.

This is bigger than 'choice' and 'freedom' most of the world have lost their freedoms and liberty right now due to coronavirus, because it's more than that (life and death), something the world hasn't seen on a large scale for 100 years.

It's not a decision for me and i don't think they will anyway, but i do hope Epik reconsider their decision on this.

This is the last i will be posting in this thread.

Good luck to everyone and stay safe.

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Domains were NOT selling for 10 bucks, they were being hand regd for 10 bucks. They were being sold for 3 to 4 figures, in general, before and after.