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Well, I never thought the day would come that I would find a worse registrar than Network Solutions, but it appears I finally have:

Namebright.

About a month ago, they deactivated an account of mine with five figures of expired domains bought via Dropcatch on it.

Their explanation was that the account violated their terms and conditions because it used a pseudonym on the account and a fake address. I'm not sure if this is actually the case or not, because I:

1. Can't log in to check was info was used

2. Can't receive information from Namebright support regarding account details

First, let me say that, from their perspective, I understand that this was a (real or perceived) violation of their T&Cs and want to make it right. I think one of my employees may have used their own info when they set up the account 4 years ago but again, I can't log in to confirm that.

In fact, before the account was shut down there was no warning email or notification - nothing. And a simple email would have given us the chance to make it right. But instead I am left to post here as customer support has been of no help.

Reviewing Their Terms and Conditions

What is frustrating to me is that, after having reviewed their terms and conditions and it seems like this action to simply "deactivate" the account was unwarranted.

First, in ¶ 8, while Namebright retains the discretion to "suspend or cancel" domains registered in conflict with the terms, "under most situations Namebright will put a suspension on a domain registration or services that is found in conflict...." Further, Namebright says that in "some situations" Namebright will contact you via email, provide a summary of the breach, and give you a deadline to respond.

Second, in ¶ 17c, if Namebright receives a WHOIS Inaccuracy Complaint, Namebright will email you and conduct an investigation (although this pertains to privacy protection only).

Third, in ¶ 19b, Namebright says it will give you 15 days to correct any inaccurate information.

Overall, Namebright's terms seem to state that a warning/response period is anticipated. Most importantly, ¶ 19b is almost completely on point with what should have happened.

Both ¶¶ 8 and 19 anticipate a notice and cure period to make these changes.

Final Thoughts (Can You Help?)
  • I understand that any registrar needs to abide by ICANN. Like I said, I want to make it right and update our account details. Honestly that is the most frustrating thing of this whole endeavor, that both I and NB support are wasting valuable time solving a problem that could have been solved with a single email.
  • Yes, my processes broke and an employee had access and power to modify account details that they shouldn't have had. I'm dumb.
  • I don't want to be a loud, unhappy customer. I just want to resolve this problem and move on, even if it just means getting EPP codes via email and transferring away from NB. If you have any suggestions or advice that is helpful.
Thank you in advance for any help, NamePro community.

Cheers.

P.S. I don't want to be that newcomer whose only post is a cry for help, so I will try to find some relevant SEO threads here that I can add value to as that has been my focus for the past 10 years.
 
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Hello ATXATX - please PM me your username and I will look into this for you. Thank you.
 
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To follow up on this, Rebies above publicly posted that they would look into this, but I never heard back from them.
 
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I hope they sort it out for you.

(Watching)
 
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I hope so as well! (Watching)
 
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Thank you guys, I appreciate it.
 
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The lack of a response speaks tells you everything you need to know doesn't it?
 
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Have you at least been able to get the auth codes from them? If not maybe you should consider an ICANN complaint, probably won't get the account reopened but unless they have reason to belive fraud was involved afaik they would have to provide auth codes under ICANN rules.
 
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What happened my friend?
 
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Crickets. Never got a response, here or via email.

Avoid this low class registrar.
 
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Following. At least to hear other's side of the story. It takes two to tango!
 
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@ATXATX have any of your domain's whois info been changed since the account has been closed?

Have you tried calling Namebright?
 
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Following. At least to hear other's side of the story. It takes two to tango!

It's all laid out in the post, I think the account and domains were using fake Whois info input by one of by employees when they opened it up. So we were in the wrong, 100%.

I understand that NB could perceive that as a violation of their T&Cs, the frustrating thing is that no warning emails were sent and we were never given a chance to remedy it.

It's pretty clear from my dealings with customer support that NB has poor process, a mediocre company culture, and is populated by C-grade employees.

Luckily we had stopped sourcing domains from them, as our testing (confirmed by others in SEO) showed that Dropcatch domains basically pass no link juice as Google filters them out. So ultimately the "value" we lost was on paper, the NB domains we lost weren't actually doing anything for us.
 
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Just too bad and worrisome that NameBright reps have decided to keep mute, despite being invited severally.

@Natalie Lynch was last seen yesterday here on NP engaged in conversation.
@JBubba was last seen yesterday on NP viewing this thread
@Rebies was last seen today on NP viewing this thread
 
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Interesting. Wanting to see a reply to this as well. We all pour some money in over there.

Might be time for an ICANN complaint if they aren’t allowing you to transfer out your names you paid for.
 
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ATXATX -

I apologize for the late response. Yes, you provided the username to us. However, to clear the air here... You seem to be trying to hide your illegal behaviors when making this posting. When in fact your account was suspended for legitimate reasons.

Without getting into all the details, you copy other people's websites, use logos of other companies, copy content of other people. We have received numerous complaints from businesses, individuals and government agencies about your account and illegal activities. You even used our address in the whois of domain names in this account, pretending it was someone at our company registering domains in this account. You (or whomever owns this account) engaged in fraud - and there is no place for this type of activity on our platform. I'm not going to waste all of my time - but we have many, many examples of fraud happening on this account.

We closed the account as our systems can not be used for illegal activities. We will not allow this type of behavior to happen on our platform.

After your account was suspended for your DNS abuse, trademark and copyright abuse, and use of fake names, addresses, and Whois information, you tried to access the account but could not as it was suspended. We provided you the opportunity to recover the account. You then provided us with a fake or stolen passport that in no way is reflective of the account. You later admitted you were not this 20-something male living in California on the passport, whom you claim is your "boss", rather you live in the Philippines and provided us with yet another ID which has zero relevance to this account. We therefore cannot help as you are not, and never have been the account owner or registrant of any domains. Your name is not associated with the account. I have spoken in length with our legal and fraud departments and at this time we are not able to grant you access to domains that you are not listed as the owner of.

We will uphold all relevant Court Orders regarding this account. I suggest you start in the courts of Denver, Colorado as this is the jurisdiction we are located in and the jurisdiction that can properly handle this matter.

Finally, please note you are not to use NameBright for illegal activities. We are not a safe-haven for such activity and we will proactively shut down bad accounts like this.

Anyone else reading this, please understand we have a zero tolerance policy for such illegal activities.

Andrew
 
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ATXATX -

I apologize for the late response. Yes, you provided the username to us. However, to clear the air here... You seem to be trying to hide your illegal behaviors when making this posting. When in fact your account was suspended for legitimate reasons.

Without getting into all the details, you copy other people's websites, use logos of other companies, copy content of other people. We have received numerous complaints from businesses, individuals and government agencies about your account and illegal activities. You even used our address in the whois of domain names in this account, pretending it was someone at our company registering domains in this account. You (or whomever owns this account) engaged in fraud - and there is no place for this type of activity on our platform. I'm not going to waste all of my time - but we have many, many examples of fraud happening on this account.

We closed the account as our systems can not be used for illegal activities. We will not allow this type of behavior to happen on our platform.

After your account was suspended for your DNS abuse, trademark and copyright abuse, and use of fake names, addresses, and Whois information, you tried to access the account but could not as it was suspended. We provided you the opportunity to recover the account. You then provided us with a fake or stolen passport that in no way is reflective of the account. You later admitted you were not this 20-something male living in California on the passport, whom you claim is your "boss", rather you live in the Philippines and provided us with yet another ID which has zero relevance to this account. We therefore cannot help as you are not, and never have been the account owner or registrant of any domains. Your name is not associated with the account. I have spoken in length with our legal and fraud departments and at this time we are not able to grant you access to domains that you are not listed as the owner of.

We will uphold all relevant Court Orders regarding this account. I suggest you start in the courts of Denver, Colorado as this is the jurisdiction we are located in and the jurisdiction that can properly handle this matter.

Finally, please note you are not to use NameBright for illegal activities. We are not a safe-haven for such activity and we will proactively shut down bad accounts like this.

Anyone else reading this, please understand we have a zero tolerance policy for such illegal activities.

Andrew
GBAM!!! Nice one 'SAY NO TO FRAUD"
That's why it's good to hear from both sides. And not to be too haste to judge.
 
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ATXATX -

I apologize for the late response. Yes, you provided the username to us. However, to clear the air here... You seem to be trying to hide your illegal behaviors when making this posting. When in fact your account was suspended for legitimate reasons.

Without getting into all the details, you copy other people's websites, use logos of other companies, copy content of other people. We have received numerous complaints from businesses, individuals and government agencies about your account and illegal activities. You even used our address in the whois of domain names in this account, pretending it was someone at our company registering domains in this account. You (or whomever owns this account) engaged in fraud - and there is no place for this type of activity on our platform. I'm not going to waste all of my time - but we have many, many examples of fraud happening on this account.

We closed the account as our systems can not be used for illegal activities. We will not allow this type of behavior to happen on our platform.

After your account was suspended for your DNS abuse, trademark and copyright abuse, and use of fake names, addresses, and Whois information, you tried to access the account but could not as it was suspended. We provided you the opportunity to recover the account. You then provided us with a fake or stolen passport that in no way is reflective of the account. You later admitted you were not this 20-something male living in California on the passport, whom you claim is your "boss", rather you live in the Philippines and provided us with yet another ID which has zero relevance to this account. We therefore cannot help as you are not, and never have been the account owner or registrant of any domains. Your name is not associated with the account. I have spoken in length with our legal and fraud departments and at this time we are not able to grant you access to domains that you are not listed as the owner of.

We will uphold all relevant Court Orders regarding this account. I suggest you start in the courts of Denver, Colorado as this is the jurisdiction we are located in and the jurisdiction that can properly handle this matter.

Finally, please note you are not to use NameBright for illegal activities. We are not a safe-haven for such activity and we will proactively shut down bad accounts like this.

Anyone else reading this, please understand we have a zero tolerance policy for such illegal activities.

Andrew

Great !
 
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