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Should employee votes count?


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As many know we have this year's Best Registrar for 2020 poll running. For the first time it's public voting, so you can click on a number and see who voted for who.

Many believe that employees votes should not count when it comes to determining a winner. Others have said it makes it useless. One person messaged me everthing on Namepros is now useless because of Epik and their many employees here.

I see it as a complex problem, I think someone like a @DanSanchez would have voted for Epik whether he was working with Epik or not. Is his vote voided because he was here and then joined Epik?

Believe it or not, whether members like it or not, winning best Registrar here has mattered to registrars.

So should we not count the votes of noted employees, meaning I can go through the finished vote tally and look at the members who voted for each, if I see Dan Sanchez for Epik I deduct it, if I see Joe Styler for GoDaddy, deduct it.

Or should all votes count and that is the legitimate winner? We have time to vote on this as the registrar vote does not conclude til the end of March.
 
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I'm interested in a poll of consumer experience.

Yes you can be employed by a company and still use its services and have an opinion about it, but personally I prefer to see ratings results based on people who are customers only.
 
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If you don't vote Lock your letting your team down...…...
 
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Anyone who was a member here before they became an employee should be allowed to vote. They were a member first. I don't think too many take any poll here as Gospel in the first place.

Either NamePros allows full participation to every member here no matter who employs them or they don't. That would be up to them to decide what to change if anything regarding staff. I would not be at all surprised if there was hidden staff members of multiple registrars here. At least Epik identifies all its employees.

In the end I am not sure a poll on a forum is worth censorship and basically treating employees like lesser beings here.
 
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In the end I am not sure a poll on a forum is worth censorship and basically treating employees like lesser beings here.

What I said in my earlier post was a general principle that is usually adhered to in the business world, but you could be right as far as the vote on this forum better being made according to its own set of rules here since this is a close knit community and if all the employees are left out there might not be too many people left to vote.

By the way no one is thinking of the employees as lesser beings as the matter of fact the situation that they are in as far as being both an employee and a member of the forum puts them in a very special category.

IMO
 
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I would not be at all surprised if there was hidden staff members of multiple registrars here. At least Epik identifies all its employees.

Something Mod Team Bravo said on another thread, "Interestingly, we have a lot of evidence that there are hundreds of employees of these top companies on NamePros without staff badges."
 
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lol .. sorry @equity78 .. but this is another example of a bad poll. My vote would have been "It depends".

As for the current poll .. yes definitely 100% of NamePros members should be allowed to vote simply because there was no request for employees not to vote.

Beyond that it's up to the person starting any poll to make stipulations if they want any.

There is no absolute answer for every single poll when we don't even know what questions will be asked in the future. Just weigh the pros and cons for the particular poll and request staff not to vote if you don't want them to vote .. it's really that simple.

As for whether I think they should or not for next year .. I actually would reply with a 4th answer "It doesn't matter because the poll is going to be completely skewed either way".

Ultimately how can anyone even make a "fair" vote if they haven't actually tried ALL the registrar choices within the previous year? Some people here like to say there's going to be employee bias .. but most of those same people conveniently ignore the fact that EVERY vote is biased unless it's a vote from someone who gave ALL the registrars a fair chance in the last year.
 
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I'm interested in a poll of consumer experience.

Yes you can be employed by a company and still use its services and have an opinion about it, but personally I prefer to see ratings results based on people who are customers only.
Employees are also customers..

It is for this reason alone, these kinds of polls, if not most, should be kept confidential. Having a poll where whom voted for what compromises the integrity of poll, because privacy is being taken out of the equation, thus potentially affecting a voter's choice. If you know your employer can see what your voting for, how likely are you to vote for anything other than that of what you're employed by?

Same goes for any other scenario, not just employment. I think keeping voting private keeps things honest, whereas a publicly view able vote is skewed by group-think or the potential backlash of voicing something otherwise kept to one's self, not yet ready for prime time.
 
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I believe in business there is a very clear distinction between customers and employees,

Employees and even their immediate family members are usually not allowed to participate in promotional contests or drawings held by their employer, also I don't believe that employees are allowed to write reviews for the products and services that belong to the company that they work for.

So I believe that employees should voluntarily stay away from voting for the Registrar that they work for or at the very least there should be a mechanism in the poll that could allow them to indicate that they were voting as an employee.

IMO
So, If I'm a Nike, Facebook, Amazon, Ebay fan and I'm using their products, I can't be hired by them? The probability to work for them is even higher, because I like them already. Also, somebody will prohibit me to leave a review for them? I never heard of any of the big players in the 'review' market to prohibit this. Even more, you have knowledge from inside and you can leave an even more accurate review. The main part will be for my review to not divulge my identity, so that I will have issues at work, everything else it's just reality.
 
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I feel that Namepros isn't measurement registrars quality , actually its really difficult to know how and why . More importantly, poll , survey, study or whatever measurement in any specific registrar is just the beginning, not the end for final quality. Respect and understanding many registrar are one of key to move our portfolio whenever we want to go.
 
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So, If I'm a Nike, Facebook, Amazon, Ebay fan and I'm using their products, I can't be hired by them? The probability to work for them is even higher, because I like them already. Also, somebody will prohibit me to leave a review for them? I never heard of any of the big players in the 'review' market to prohibit this. Even more, you have knowledge from inside and you can leave an even more accurate review. The main part will be for my review to not divulge my identity, so that I will have issues at work, everything else it's just reality.

So lets say that you are very fair and honest about the reviews that you are giving for the products or services that you are somehow connected to, but can you guarantee the same for all other employees, logic says that their opinion might be a little biased and so at the very least they should disclose any affiliations that might be involved here.

As far as NamePros goes in my opinion if a member here is giving an opinion about a certain Registrar then they need to disclose whether they are somehow connected to that Registrar or not.

Of course this just how I feel about this, you are entitled to think differently, but I am interested to know what others have to say about this issue.

IMO
 
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As far as NamePros goes in my opinion if a member here is giving an opinion about a certain Registrar then they need to disclose whether they are somehow connected to that Registrar or not.

Of course this just how I feel about this, you are entitled to think differently, but I am interested to know what others have to say about this issue.

IMO

Agree
 
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Either NamePros allows full participation to every member here no matter who employs them or they don't. That would be up to them to decide what to change if anything regarding staff.
I am not sure a poll on a forum is worth censorship and basically treating employees like lesser beings here.
Our position is always to treat everyone as equals.

100% of NamePros members should be allowed to vote simply because there was no request for employees not to vote.

Beyond that it's up to the person starting any poll to make stipulations if they want any.
Agreed. We wrote something similar in the following post:
 
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Should employee votes count?
It's possible that if votes in a poll are public, then employees may feel pressured (whether implicitly or explicitly) to vote for their employer in fear of their employer seeing that they prefer a competitor, which may not necessarily get them fired but may create unwanted tension in the workplace.

The answer to this question may be different based on whether that pressure exists (the votes are public) or not (the votes are private).

A solution to that could be a new poll option that only allows the poll creator to see who voted for each choice, but employees may still worry the poll creator will release their vote publicly (or to their employer privately). If the poll creator is trustworthy and states that they will not disclose any particular member's vote, then it might work.

Is this option worth adding to polls?
 
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It's possible that if votes in a poll are public, then employees may feel pressured (whether implicitly or explicitly) to vote for their employer in fear of their employer seeing that they prefer a competitor, which may not necessarily get them fired but may create unwanted tension in the workplace.

The answer to this question may be different based on whether that pressure exists (the votes are public) or not (the votes are private).

A solution to that could be a new poll option that only allows the poll creator to see who voted for each choice, but employees may still worry the poll creator will release their vote publicly (or to their employer privately). If the poll creator is trustworthy and states that they will not disclose any particular member's vote, then it might work.

Is this option worth adding to polls?

Yes. If the poll creator has explained that employees of companies cannot vote for their employer. And if they do, their vote will be removed, without any fanfare. Just quietly removed. I don't see this as being a restriction on their rights as a member of NPs. It's trying to arrive at an untainted results from a poll. If that is not acceptable, then consider the opposite. They can vote in any and all polls, rendering them tainted, so ban any polls which might cause employees to vote for the employers, instead. I think I would prefer the former option. Another alternative would be to remove their employee badges. So we wouldn't know who these people are.
 
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Biggest company buys most votes simple. Employ to vote.
 
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Biggest company buys most votes simple. Employ to vote.

I dont think so. Godaddy would be the biggest and well the results speak for themselves.
 
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I dont think so. Godaddy would be the biggest and well the results speak for themselves.
Godaddy spends a lot on TV advertising an not a lot on reps otherwise we would yell out @GoDaddy instead of @Joe Styler alone the guy that solves all our problems single handed.
 
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Newly-registered accounts have not been able to vote in any polls this year,
It makes sense. However, on a spot view, each of 3 leading registrars in this poll received votes also from members who joined in 2020, including March of this year. Why is this? If somebody wants to manipulate the results, his 1st choice would be to generate new members "voting" for somebody...
 
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It makes sense. However, on a spot view, each of 3 leading registrars in this poll received votes also from members who joined in 2020, including March of this year. Why is this?
It's based on more than just the registration date, but the registration date is also a limiting factor. There are members who registered recently and expressed their opinion in the thread because they could not vote in the poll.

In the future, there will be an option to remove votes of members who registered after a poll was created, but currently, the limiting factors are not based on when any particular poll started.

Note: We aren't going to discuss too many specifics publicly because that would teach members how to manipulate polls.
 
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What would be nice is for any user who has a staff badge of any kind gets a special color for their name when viewing the results, and when you mouseiver the tooltip could give more into like "xxxx Staff" so their votes are clearly identified in the results.
 
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Poll Feedback:

I personally would like any future polls to have the comment section closed

To many people are using this as a chance to bash other registrars as well as constantly posting defensive comments and currying votes for their favourites........there is no need for it.

Cast your vote and be done with it, if needed after the vote has closed create a follow up thread on why people voted the way they did...

There also needs to be some sort of governance on negative promotion (posting constant disparaging comments about registrars)

Employee vote Feedback:

Personally don't think any employee votes should count towards the total, this is for all registrars.
 
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now, whether they can or they can't,

biggie says "I don't give a :poop: they still gotta swing"

so, it doesn't matter.... does it?

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strippers gotta swing, and they gotta have poles

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imo….

If there is/was a way to nominate a best or funniest comment of the year, (thus far in 2020)
the attached quoted post from biggie would earn my vote.
 
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Poll Feedback:

I personally would like any future polls to have the comment section closed

To many people are using this as a chance to bash other registrars as well as constantly posting defensive comments and currying votes for their favourites........there is no need for it.

Cast your vote and be done with it, if needed after the vote has closed create a follow up thread on why people voted the way they did...

There also needs to be some sort of governance on negative promotion (posting constant disparaging comments about registrars)

Employee vote Feedback:

Personally don't think any employee votes should count towards the total, this is for all registrars.

That would have to be an added option as just a member starting a thread in general discussion you don't have that option or I would have because I believe it can be used to pollute the waters. I still believe Epik would have won.
 
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I personally would like any future polls to have the comment section closed
That would have to be an added option as just a member starting a thread in general discussion you don't have that option or I would have because I believe it can be used to pollute the waters.
An option is currently being developed and will be available soon. :)
 
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