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Valid point, my only experiences with Afternic brokers have been negative and want nothing to do with them. So I just use Afternic for names to show on GoDaddy.


Afternic is the only sales platform that has ever gotten me a better price than I was asking for

my impression is they are the only brokers
who care
and are capable
of negotiation


uniregistry by far the worst
really useless

sedo
extremely lazy
 
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Afternic is the only sales platform that has ever gotten me a better price than I was asking for

my impression is they are the only brokers
who care
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of negotiation

Congrats, I cannot say the same. Worst I ever dealt with. But thankfully there are a lot of options.
 
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Valid point, my only experiences with Afternic brokers have been negative and want nothing to do with them. So I just use Afternic for names to show on GoDaddy.

Ya I never dealt with their brokers. I really only use AN for syndication into GD and other registrars but use Epik for my landers so doesn't really matter to me.
 
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It may work for North America - based buyers. However, if a potential buyer is not in U.S./Canada - then calling a foreign country, speaking potentially not native language, being subject to sales tricks (this is what he may think, as U.S. is well known for advanced remote sales techniques) - would be the last thing a potential buyer may elect to do...
Its a good thing then we have salespeople In Europe and Asia speaking lots of languages and answering people in their own language on their own time zone with local knowledge about the market and such :)
Besides our own sales teams doing this we can and do leverage when needed the close to 9k GoDaddy employees worldwide to close deals in the local language. We have so many international locations I honestly cannot keep up but there has never been a time I can recall in the last couple years where we couldn't get a someone to help no matter what the language was and usually from someone located in that country. I don't think that many other companies have that breadth of service and maybe a BIN may work better if you cannot provide what we have - quick callback or contact, based on inquiries IP, many times in local language landing pages and speaking with someone who can speak their language.
 
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Its a good thing then we have salespeople In Europe and Asia speaking lots of languages and answering people in their own language on their own time zone with local knowledge about the market and such
This is great, but, last time I visited afternic parking pages (and I am not in U.S.) there were just two numbers - U.S. normal number and U.S. toll-free number. A potential buyer will see the same, so there is no evidence showing him that somebody @ Afternic may speak any other language... And, in any case, if there is a BIN - then not showing it is irrational. Many purchases are impulse buying.
 
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Its a good thing then we have salespeople In Europe and Asia speaking lots of languages and answering people in their own language on their own time zone with local knowledge about the market and such :)
Besides our own sales teams doing this we can and do leverage when needed the close to 9k GoDaddy employees worldwide to close deals in the local language. We have so many international locations I honestly cannot keep up but there has never been a time I can recall in the last couple years where we couldn't get a someone to help no matter what the language was and usually from someone located in that country. I don't think that many other companies have that breadth of service and maybe a BIN may work better if you cannot provide what we have - quick callback or contact, based on inquiries IP, many times in local language landing pages and speaking with someone who can speak their language.

just last week I had a Godaddy employee call me from Munich
and trying to help me with my Godaddy account
( I didn't ask for it )

I guess Godaddy is on the right track

for now, I trust them much more than I trust a tiny company that is totally dependents on the idea of their 80% owner, who is -let's call it- "strange" sometimes.
 
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This is great, but, last time I visited afternic parking pages (and I am not in U.S.) there were just two numbers - U.S. normal number and U.S. toll-free number. A potential buyer will see the same, so there is no evidence showing him that somebody @ Afternic may speak any other language... And, in any case, if there is a BIN - then not showing it is irrational. Many purchases are impulse buying.
We use things like cookies and IP addresses to determine which lander to show. As I said we are very likely going to test a BIN lander this year for customers.
 
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We use things like cookies and IP addresses to determine which lander to show. As I said we are very likely going to test a BIN lander this year for customers.

Buy it now would be good. Thank you Joe.
 
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GD and Afternic is the same, right? Unless you list an auction at GD.

Afternic was always number one with me: 2017 17 sales, 2018 22 sales, but 2019 fell off to 12, and in the last four months, absolutely nothing. My inventory is around 650 names with about 90% of them at the GD valuation price. Each year I spend much more and increase my quality - keeping my list fresh and relevant. Almost all of my drops get picked right up, so even my worst is not too bad. And I have some strong one's at the top. What is going on with Afternic, I don't know but it is long past the standard deviation from normal.

Sedo. I don't use their landers as they have badly sucked - haven't looked at them lately. But with sales of exactly one in the last 8 years there (even though I religiously add new and subtract old and keep a very fresh list - why I don't know. I think they suck for the sweet spot domains. They seem to do well on five and six figure names though.

Squadhelp. For brandables, this has outperformed and is my favorite. A 10% sell through rate with mid and high six figure names for me. (Three sales in the last 12 months), and have added more and up to about 45. Love them.

Brandbucket. Dead. A 0.5% sell-through after three years.

Brandpa. 40 names with listed prices up to $75,000. 0% sell-through in one year.

Efty. Great people put this together. I like it but can not get traffic stats with the integrated goog anal. Hoping to have them bring back Efty traffic. Not many sales here, but a LOT of spam and tire kickers.

Dan. Just brought over about 150 names three months ago for testing. I like the layout and platform and traffic stats but no leads yet.

Flippa. So bad. They are more focused on selling businesses than domains. I do get some nice $25 or $50 offers for my LLN's though - haha.

Ebay. Pretty good success oddly enough. I throw my drops up here a month before expiry with a $25 starting bid. You have to get the wording in the header and put your domain clearly in the picture part so as to stand out from the other 40,000 names. Sometimes I get $25 to $100 or so, sometimes a few hundred (these are my drops). I got over $700 for TheYogaSociety.com. I was happy when I got a single bid at $25 and then two battled it out. Wow.

Namepros. Would like to try it but things are so strict here I can't figure out what I am allowed to do or not, and god forbid I get something wrong and get penalized. So, I just don't participate.

Namescon. Years back it was easier to get your name in, and I did very well as my names went into live auction. However, nowadays you have to forward your names in advance and then they will see if enough traffic or leads come through before the names go in, so I don't play that game.

Just read the post from Rob about the Epik ssl landers. Hmmm.... I did a live chat and got more info. Seems worth a try. Can do a little on-page SEO - not sure how much that helps but I do like to test, so will try that next month with a couple hundred names. Ok with the commission if I get results. Only downside I got here was that they do not allow or have the ability to add your own logos. Bummer.

Open to any suggestions or comments. Thanks guys.
 
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GD and Afternic is the same, right? Unless you list an auction at GD.

Afternic was always number one with me: 2017 17 sales, 2018 22 sales, but 2019 fell off to 12, and in the last four months, absolutely nothing. My inventory is around 650 names with about 90% of them at the GD valuation price. Each year I spend much more and increase my quality - keeping my list fresh and relevant. Almost all of my drops get picked right up, so even my worst is not too bad. And I have some strong one's at the top. What is going on with Afternic, I don't know but it is long past the standard deviation from normal.

Sedo. I don't use their landers as they have badly sucked - haven't looked at them lately. But with sales of exactly one in the last 8 years there (even though I religiously add new and subtract old and keep a very fresh list - why I don't know. I think they suck for the sweet spot domains. They seem to do well on five and six figure names though.

Squadhelp. For brandables, this has outperformed and is my favorite. A 10% sell through rate with mid and high six figure names for me. (Three sales in the last 12 months), and have added more and up to about 45. Love them.

Brandbucket. Dead. A 0.5% sell-through after three years.

Brandpa. 40 names with listed prices up to $75,000. 0% sell-through in one year.

Efty. Great people put this together. I like it but can not get traffic stats with the integrated goog anal. Hoping to have them bring back Efty traffic. Not many sales here, but a LOT of spam and tire kickers.

Dan. Just brought over about 150 names three months ago for testing. I like the layout and platform and traffic stats but no leads yet.

Flippa. So bad. They are more focused on selling businesses than domains. I do get some nice $25 or $50 offers for my LLN's though - haha.

Ebay. Pretty good success oddly enough. I throw my drops up here a month before expiry with a $25 starting bid. You have to get the wording in the header and put your domain clearly in the picture part so as to stand out from the other 40,000 names. Sometimes I get $25 to $100 or so, sometimes a few hundred (these are my drops). I got over $700 for TheYogaSociety.com. I was happy when I got a single bid at $25 and then two battled it out. Wow.

Namepros. Would like to try it but things are so strict here I can't figure out what I am allowed to do or not, and god forbid I get something wrong and get penalized. So, I just don't participate.

Namescon. Years back it was easier to get your name in, and I did very well as my names went into live auction. However, nowadays you have to forward your names in advance and then they will see if enough traffic or leads come through before the names go in, so I don't play that game.

Just read the post from Rob about the Epik ssl landers. Hmmm.... I did a live chat and got more info. Seems worth a try. Can do a little on-page SEO - not sure how much that helps but I do like to test, so will try that next month with a couple hundred names. Ok with the commission if I get results. Only downside I got here was that they do not allow or have the ability to add your own logos. Bummer.

Open to any suggestions or comments. Thanks guys.

Ebay surprised me. I epiks have never thought there'd be a market for donains there. Would be interesting if ypu split there ones you want to drop between there and name liquidate abcd see which ove performs better. NL is still new but seems to be growing.
 
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for registering...best deal
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for listing....com,.org godaddy/afternic...cctld+everything else sedo
 
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Ebay surprised me. I epiks have never thought there'd be a market for donains there. Would be interesting if ypu split there ones you want to drop between there and name liquidate abcd see which ove performs better. NL is still new but seems to be growing.

NameLiquidate - first time I heard about it. Looks good - big Alexa rank. I asked for a list of completed sales and rough estimate of users - they wont say in chat. Worth a try. Will post in results in a few weeks. Thanks!
 
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Funny comment about racehorses.

It reminds me of the early days in the 1860's when the Pony Express set the pace for delivering messages across the country. They put lightweight riders on fast horses. Nowadays we just send an instant message or email instantly for free. Pretty profound that this was just 2 lifetimes ago!

and they say taht teens don't talk much nowadayz ... back then u couldn't even talk... just one message "sup" then wait 3 days just to get a "yeah, sup." back...
 
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Domain Agents

Would you like sharing your experience with them and how frequent you're having sales through DomainAgents?
 
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Would you like sharing your experience with them and how frequent you're having sales through DomainAgents?
They did the work, but the process was quite slow. As extra solution, DA is ok. As main marketplace? Nah...
 
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They did the work, but the process was quite slow. As extra solution, DA is ok. As main marketplace? Nah...

Thanks for the clarification. I was actually surprised to see how you voted for them as marketplace :-D
 
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Thanks for the clarification. I was actually surprised to see how you voted for them as marketplace :-D
Always I suggest Dan for transaction. All other included except for Flippa.
 
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Always I suggest Dan for transaction. All other included except for Flippa.

If I'm not wrong, their escrow fee is quite high considering other reliable escrow services.
 
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GD and Afternic is the same, right? Unless you list an auction at GD.

Afternic was always number one with me: 2017 17 sales, 2018 22 sales, but 2019 fell off to 12, and in the last four months, absolutely nothing. My inventory is around 650 names with about 90% of them at the GD valuation price. Each year I spend much more and increase my quality - keeping my list fresh and relevant. Almost all of my drops get picked right up, so even my worst is not too bad. And I have some strong one's at the top. What is going on with Afternic, I don't know but it is long past the standard deviation from normal.

Sedo. I don't use their landers as they have badly sucked - haven't looked at them lately. But with sales of exactly one in the last 8 years there (even though I religiously add new and subtract old and keep a very fresh list - why I don't know. I think they suck for the sweet spot domains. They seem to do well on five and six figure names though.

Squadhelp. For brandables, this has outperformed and is my favorite. A 10% sell through rate with mid and high six figure names for me. (Three sales in the last 12 months), and have added more and up to about 45. Love them.

Brandbucket. Dead. A 0.5% sell-through after three years.

Brandpa. 40 names with listed prices up to $75,000. 0% sell-through in one year.

Efty. Great people put this together. I like it but can not get traffic stats with the integrated goog anal. Hoping to have them bring back Efty traffic. Not many sales here, but a LOT of spam and tire kickers.

Dan. Just brought over about 150 names three months ago for testing. I like the layout and platform and traffic stats but no leads yet.

Flippa. So bad. They are more focused on selling businesses than domains. I do get some nice $25 or $50 offers for my LLN's though - haha.

Ebay. Pretty good success oddly enough. I throw my drops up here a month before expiry with a $25 starting bid. You have to get the wording in the header and put your domain clearly in the picture part so as to stand out from the other 40,000 names. Sometimes I get $25 to $100 or so, sometimes a few hundred (these are my drops). I got over $700 for TheYogaSociety.com. I was happy when I got a single bid at $25 and then two battled it out. Wow.

Namepros. Would like to try it but things are so strict here I can't figure out what I am allowed to do or not, and god forbid I get something wrong and get penalized. So, I just don't participate.



Namescon. Years back it was easier to get your name in, and I did very well as my names went into live auction. However, nowadays you have to forward your names in advance and then they will see if enough traffic or leads come through before the names go in, so I don't play that game.

Just read the post from Rob about the Epik ssl landers. Hmmm.... I did a live chat and got more info. Seems worth a try. Can do a little on-page SEO - not sure how much that helps but I do like to test, so will try that next month with a couple hundred names. Ok with the commission if I get results. Only downside I got here was that they do not allow or have the ability to add your own logos. Bummer.

Open to any suggestions or comments. Thanks guys.

Thanks for sharing. I think lack of efficient domain marketplace is the major issue for the domain business.
It is usually a good idea to have your domains listed in as many places as you can, you never know where the right end user might find your name.

1. Afternic - Afternic is a must for anyone, one of the oldest (1999) and the best domain marketplaces out there. The great number of partner registrars (GD included) makes your domain visible in so many places across all the continents (if Fast Transfer is enabled). You don't have to forward your names to their rather crappy landing pages, just list and forget. Always add a BIN so you can get into the fast transfer program.

2. DAN - I'm amazed of how fast DAN managed to establish themselves as one of the best players in the industry. I guess hard work, innovation and great customer service eventually pays off. Beautiful landing pages, fast payments and the ability to easily setup monthly installments. Dan worked pretty well for me, I even had a couple of sales where the names been parked somewhere else so there is definitely traffic on their platform, not just direct type in. If they'll manage to launch their registrar side of the business, this will be a game changer.

3. Uniregistry - Great platform, very cool design. You'll have to park there if you're hoping to make any sales. They have brokers and you can obviously assign a lead to a broker if you think he might do better than you in closing a deal.

4. Sedo - Good old Sedo, frozen in time since 2001. Not much to say about them really. No sales if you don't point your names to their landers or spend some cash promoting an auction. However once you get a sale they are pretty good at sorting things out, you know german style.

5. GD Auctions - The place is probably 95% full of other domainers rather than end users so if you're looking to let your names go at reseller prices, be my guest.

6. Epik - Epik's landers are pretty much the best in the industry so far, you get lots of (SEO friendly) customization options. I don't know about the sale process since I haven't sold anything on Epik yet. Just recently I sold a name at Afternic which was Epik parked so it seems the buyer preferred to pay a bit extra at Afnic rather than clicking the BIN buton at Epik. However it seems that Epik is really fast when processing the deals and the support is great.

7. Domain Agents - Worth a try listing your names on their platform. Serious people, they just get in touch when your name has an offer, probably lowball you a bit first but they sell names. Why not.

8. Flippa - Not exactly what it used to be but still a platform with lots of web developers and potential end users that will buy if they see your name there.

9. Namejet - Used to be cool, now just dull imo. I guess all the problems they had in the last couple of years hit them a bit. Still a good place to offload some names, just make sure you understand that you'll get paid the following month.

10. Namepros Auctions - Good, friendly environment, probably the fastest way to liquidate your names.

11. NameLiquidate - The new startup from Epik, looks really good, nice and clean design with a sort of dutch-style auction system. I like it but I don't like the fact that names go down to $1. I personally believe that seller should be able to choose the bottom price from $1 to $9. This platform has a great potential if promoted right imo...

12. Dynadot / Namesilo / Namecheap marketplaces - These are all registrar-side marketplaces. I never used any of them so really have no idea how they work. Worth a try ...

13. Twitter & Linkedin - Yup, they do work if used right. Make sure you don't spam.

Probably the best setup imo:

1. Pick a landing page. Epik or Dan are the best choices. If you value your name under $5k just list a BIN otherwise go for make offer. Usually add a higher BIN as most likely end users will try to get your name for a lower amount. For example if you want to get $2,500 for a name just list it at $3,500 so you'll have a bit of room to negociate.

2. Once you picked your landing page, go list the name with Afternic and Sedo. Make sure your Afternic (and Sedo) BIN is higher than the landing page since their commission is higher. You can also choose any other platform from the list above if you think they'll work.

Hope this helps a bit :)

Thanks, it's very helpful. @loredan . Actually, effective marketplace is the key to the domain business.
 
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I use Sedo Afternic Dan at the same time,they have their own advantages,
The only problem is that you have to adjust the price separately.
 
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Afternic: Good part, GD is big, so no parking needed. Bad: "offers" come as price requests, it is impossible to know if they are real, and where they might be coming from, and most don't go anywhere, but when you drop, they are dropcacaught. Because they know who the buyer, if any, is. Not a fair game. Not transparent enough from seller side.

Sedo: Shows part of buyers' data to the public, and if there is a "deal" , shows a lot more to the buyer, and invites discrimination before and after a "sale". It partially works, but it would do much better if there was no such total nonsense. Just like AN/GD, they seem to have their agenda, I mean, more control for themselves, less control for sellers, and maximizing selling price "on the seller side" seems to be not in their best interest. Commissions are ok, but wire cost is high. Online contact form doesn't work. Best stats compared to others, but not good enough.

Dan: So far works in small sales (I mean most deals are paid), big sales are fake so far. Fast transfers. But the main point is making a good deal, and getting payment, not sure how good Dan is in this sense. Low commissions, and people say, wire cost is zero. Buyer IP is shown (Good), but seller info is also shown (Bad). You can communicate with the buyer during a negotiation. Allows rent to own.

Epik: Allows rent-to-own, instant transfer if domain is at Epik. Good customer service. Clean landing pages (but I want to make them dirty with keywords). Money moves to instore or masterbucks, and can be used immediately, low commission if money stays there. Buyer info is shown, seller info is hidden (Great !). Visit stats missing. And this is the biggest problem with Epik, and maybe it can be cured via G.A. but I don't want G.A. under my name, because G wants to track everything.

Once RobM suggested somewhere that we should list elsewhere with BIN, and park at Epik with makeoffer, and then shoot to the Moon when there is an inquiry... This might be a good suggestion, except for the shooting to the Moon part, and I consider doing it, but missing visit stats prevents me from doing it. There are visit stats but they are just numbers.
 
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My pricing with BINs on Afternic and Sedo is mainly differing which is no smart move.

Does anybody know if there is a DOFO-like sync tool for your pricing on several marketplaces?

So the same domain is sold via BIN on Afternic and 10 minutes later also on Sedo. But you have only one domain. What would you do?
 
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So the same domain is sold via BIN on Afternic and 10 minutes later also on Sedo. But you have only one domain. What would you do?


tell sedo it sold already
 
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