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    44.7%
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  • Democrats

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    22.2%
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Here you can spout your USA political views.

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1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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Dow down almost 1200 points. Biggest one day point loss ever. (not percentage)

I'm sure Trump supporters here will blame the Dems for the drop.
 
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Dow down almost 1200 points. Biggest one day point loss ever. (not percentage)

I'm sure Trump supporters here will blame the Dems for the drop.

Worst week since 2008.
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Maybe the CoronaVirus is a Chinese hoax like Climate Change perpetrated by the Deep State and the Dems and all those sick people and those that died are Soros paid actors. Something a Trump supporters news source would say.

We have 2 anti-science types at the top, put Pence in charge, didn't verify every single one:
https://twitter.com/search?q=pence

Opposed needle-exchange programs in Indiana and oversaw an outbreak of HIV

Argued that smoking doesn't kill, didn’t cause cancer.

Mike Pence is for conversion therapy.

Mike Pence doesn’t believe climate science.

Mike Pence questioned whether or not condoms worked.

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Pope Francis taken ill as coronavirus sweeps Italy

 
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Worst week since 2008.
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Maybe the CoronaVirus is a Chinese hoax like Climate Change perpetrated by the Deep State and the Dems and all those sick people and those that died are Soros paid actors. Something a Trump supporters news source would say.
Be careful giving these guys any ideas, some here may repeat these things as fact in the future.
I hope Rush Limbaugh doesn't read your post :xf.wink:

We have 2 anti-science types at the top, put Pence in charge, didn't verify every single one:
https://twitter.com/search?q=pence

Opposed needle-exchange programs in Indiana and oversaw an outbreak of HIV

Argued that smoking doesn't kill, didn’t cause cancer.

Mike Pence is for conversion therapy.

Mike Pence doesn’t believe climate science.

Mike Pence questioned whether or not condoms worked.

Remember Trump only hires the best worst.
 
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Are Airline and Cruise Ship stocks taking a beating?

Yes, airlines, Cruise ships, Oil, Microsoft, Netflix, Disney, Apple. Basically all companies which are China based production.

Stocks to watch because of the virus are.
LAKE
APT
3M
GILD
CODX

These are just some companies directly involved in the production of supplies and services involving the virus.

NYC has all hospitals ready and supplied incase of ANY outbreak.

With all that said since Bernie will most likely be the democratic candidate... We are guaranteed 4 more years with president Trump. Meaning there's bargains to be had right now in the market.
 
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I'm sure Trump supporters here will blame the Dems for the drop.

Nah. Unlike you guys, we understand basic economics. Read SirDrago's post above and learn. You can't support a family by crying about the economy, or about who's president at the moment.

We have been overdue for a crash, and there is no end in sight for this one. And don't forget to wash your hands.
 
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Worst week since 2008.
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Maybe the CoronaVirus is a Chinese hoax like Climate Change perpetrated by the Deep State and the Dems and all those sick people and those that died are Soros paid actors. Something a Trump supporters news source would say.

We have 2 anti-science types at the top, put Pence in charge, didn't verify every single one:
https://twitter.com/search?q=pence

Opposed needle-exchange programs in Indiana and oversaw an outbreak of HIV

Argued that smoking doesn't kill, didn’t cause cancer.

Mike Pence is for conversion therapy.

Mike Pence doesn’t believe climate science.

Mike Pence questioned whether or not condoms worked.

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You can see how things can get easily amped up:

Pope Francis taken ill as coronavirus sweeps Italy


honestly, I am trying to figure out what the hell is up with the Coronavirus, every minute of every day now I constantly see “Its coming, not matter of if, but when. And all the doom and gloom that goes with it. We have like 58 cases in the whole country, that is why what the CDC and WHO are saying is very confusing. 58 cases nation wide. It doesn’t make sense to me, unless, it is already in cities through out the US but none have gotten sick yet.

either way, I have taken an ass beating since Monday on my stocks I own
 
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Nah. Unlike you guys, we understand basic economics. Read SirDrago's post above and learn. You can't support a family by crying about the economy, or about who's president at the moment.

We have been overdue for a crash, and there is no end in sight for this one. And don't forget to wash your hands.
No we have not been overdue for a Crash. That is absurd.
We have been way overdue for a major Correction. Learn the difference.

A 20% to 25% correction is what is overdue and is healthy for the markets.
Now this one could be worse maybe 30% but it wont be a crash.
 
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No we have not been overdue for a Crash. That is absurd.
We have been way overdue for a major Correction. Learn the difference.

A 20% to 25% correction is what is overdue and is healthy for the markets.
Now this one could be worse maybe 30% but it wont be a crash.

tell wall street to stop! @lennco , my stocks are invested in my 457 retirement plan I got 25 years ago working for a non profit company , so it’s not out of pocket money, but damn.
 
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No we have not been overdue for a Crash. That is absurd.
We have been way overdue for a major Correction. Learn the difference.

Haha, sorry. I don't read picture books.

May not be a crash this time. May not be a crash at all, but a slow grind to the bottom, Japan style. If you don't have kids or grandkids, you probably don't care about that though.
 
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@lennco @Domainace
You're both correct just different wording let's not argue over that.

To be honest this correction in the market is the best thing that could happen for the worst reason. Needless to say a lot of people are panicking for no reason, the cure is in hand in phase 1 trails are on the way.
Good news is chinas economy has been kicked in the nuts. America will prosper and recover.
Buy the dip and HODL!

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This will teach American companies NOT to put their eggs in one basket.
America's manufacturing will flourish.
 
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Since Netflix is focusing more on online content and they have less blu-rays and such in stock, I never get the new movies the day they're released like I did in the past, so I put some older ones in my Q. This was a pretty good movie I have coming tomorrow:


From the other video I posted "slight indisposition"

Pope Francis sick a day after supporting coronavirus sufferers

Pope Francis has come down with a “slight indisposition,” forcing him to cancel a planned Mass in Rome, just a day after he expressed his solidarity with coronavirus sufferers around the world — and as the disease continues to spread across Italy.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/pope-francis-sick-a-day-after-supporting-coronavirus-sufferers/
 
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#TrumpVirus trending - https://twitter.com/search?q=#TrumpVirus&src=trend_click&pt=1233160198610661376

Of course as usual, Trump's old tweets coming back on him. So let's use "Trump reasoning" so this is Trump's fault.......

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Good news is chinas economy has been kicked in the nuts. America will prosper and recover.

I agree with half of that. One country that I think can grow rich (if they can get their government out of the way) is Vietnam. They are already booming, partly because countries such as Japan started to reduce their reliance on China. For years, China has been showing its willingness to sacrifice trade and good relations as a political weapon, making it a risky place to invest - especially for Japanese companies, given the history of the two nations. So they have been steadily moving elsewhere - to Thailand, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh... But Vietnam is the clear leader, still cheap, a hard-working populace that pays attention to detail, and fairly stable. The country's problem is an entrenched, oppressive and corrupt government. Amazing what they have done despite that.

I wouldn't rule China out ever though. Too big. If they can get rid of Xi and his thugs, there is massive potential.
 
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Whistleblower says HHS sent workers to handle possible coronavirus patients without gear, training

The Department of Health and Human Services “improperly deployed” more than a dozen workers to two California military bases receiving Americans evacuated from coronavirus without giving them training or protective gear for handling the possibly high-risk patients, according to a new whistleblower complaint.


The whistleblower alleged that HHS officials shot down her concerns and on Feb. 15 threatened to fire her if she did not accept a reassignment. The workers who may have been exposed to the coronavirus then were able to travel freely among the public, the complaint reportedly said................

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wh...le-coronavirus-patients-without-gear-training

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If you thought CoronaVirus is bad, look what's coming next.... House Cat Flu
 
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Just to get away from all the silliness here, let's talk about the eventual collapse of the USA. :xf.grin:

I wonder why it is that people such as JB here think that sort of talk is scare-mongering or drama-queening. To me, the burden of proof should be on the other side. I can't think of a single unrivaled civilization that didn't collapse under the weight of oppressive taxes and regulations, decay, and corruption. It's like a fact of nature, not that different from saying all people will eventually die. All large civilizations collapse under their own weight - China, Rome, Persia, Great Britain.... It is simply common sense that the US will follow the same path - and I think it is already well along that path. Why is this so hard to accept for many?

I think the US might get a few breaks along the way, but the course will not change all that much. And I am not saying it will disappear (China, the UK, etc. are still around - but shadows of their former glory days.)

I can see disagreeing how far along the path the US is, but not on the eventual destination. Can anyone make the case that he US will be the first such civilization in history not to collapse? What evidence ya got?
 
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Since Netflix is focusing more on online content and they have less blu-rays and such in stock, I never get the new movies the day they're released like I did in the past, so I put some older ones in my Q. This was a pretty good movie I have coming tomorrow:


From the other video I posted "slight indisposition"

Pope Francis sick a day after supporting coronavirus sufferers

Pope Francis has come down with a “slight indisposition,” forcing him to cancel a planned Mass in Rome, just a day after he expressed his solidarity with coronavirus sufferers around the world — and as the disease continues to spread across Italy.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/pope-francis-sick-a-day-after-supporting-coronavirus-sufferers/

Since you have Netflix you might consider watching "Pandemic".

 
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Just to get away from all the silliness here, let's talk about the eventual collapse of the USA. :xf.grin:

I wonder why it is that people such as JB here think that sort of talk is scare-mongering or drama-queening. To me, the burden of proof should be on the other side. I can't think of a single unrivaled civilization that didn't collapse under the weight of oppressive taxes and regulations, decay, and corruption. It's like a fact of nature, not that different from saying all people will eventually die. All large civilizations collapse under their own weight - China, Rome, Persia, Great Britain.... It is simply common sense that the US will follow the same path - and I think it is already well along that path. Why is this so hard to accept for many?

I think the US might get a few breaks along the way, but the course will not change all that much. And I am not saying it will disappear (China, the UK, etc. are still around - but shadows of their former glory days.)

I can see disagreeing how far along the path the US is, but not on the eventual destination. Can anyone make the case that he US will be the first such civilization in history not to collapse? What evidence ya got?

Oh my goodness, is this going to be your weekly nutter post, the collapse of America? Do you have any insight on who the C.I.A. is going to take out next?

I've always wondered if there some back story on you thinking/hoping for America's collapse? Did something happen where you had to flee to Asia? What is that all about? America has gone thru much worse over it's history, and we'll be fine.
 
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I don't get you guys with Netflix. The last thing I would seek for entertainment at this time would be films about epidemics and pandemics. If you haven't seen Peaky Blinders, though, you are wasting your subscription.

 
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Oh my goodness, is this going to be your weekly nutter post, the collapse of America? Do you have any insight on who the C.I.A. is going to take out next?

I've always wondered if there some back story on you thinking/hoping for America's collapse? Did something happen where you had to flee to Asia? What is that all about? America has gone thru much worse over it's history, and we'll be fine.

You confirmed what I said. I am talking about basic history and laws of nature, and you can't accept it. At least try to make a case. If anyone is a nutter, it's the person who thinks the laws of nature and all history will change for them. Are you afraid to talk about death as well? That's pretty much a sure thing.

What makes you say I "fled" to Asia? Did you flee to Florida? What a bizarre thing to say. People move.
 
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You confirmed what I said. I am talking about basic history and laws of nature, and you can't accept it. At least try to make a case. If anyone is a nutter, it's the person who thinks the laws of nature and all history will change for them. Are you afraid to talk about death as well? That's pretty much a sure thing.

What makes you say I "fled" to Asia? Did you flee to Florida? What a bizarre thing to say. People move.

Laws of nature? What does that have to do with America collapsing? What are you talking about with "afraid to talk about death"? What are you even referring too? Quote something I said on that, I really have no idea what you're talking about.

As far as going to Asia. I ask because many times in this thread you talk about America collapsing, the downfall of America, other countries celebrating the downfall of America. So you have some hatred towards the country, you just have never mentioned why. So what is it? Where does that come from? offthandle has some issues, he mentioned it was because while he's running around South America, he still has to pay United States taxes, and he wasn't happy about it.
 
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I really have no idea what you're talking about.

You don't, do you? You are still completely unable to carry on a conversation. Just bitterness and bile. Boring. At least I tried.
 
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