Positive Review about Rob Monster's Character

Tia Wood said:

If you have solid proof and people to come forward that have been "taken", then post it.

If not, your words are very careless.

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he is all over this place creating authority


he is creating hype and fake hopes
in order to get newbies to handregister names at epik

hope
is the force that makes them register
based on the "information" an authority is providing

epik benefits

if the newbies will benefit
is unclear

Rob Monster said:

The racism thing I really don't get. To want to empower all races is the opposite of racism.

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Reread the first page .. in @cipcip post to you:

cipcip said:

Good luck with your team full of indians, cheap labor.

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If you read the entirety of his posts he was very obviously wishing you "good luck" sarcastically and thus implying blindly that he was better than Indians.

The context of his "Good luck" was in the sarcastic sense "Good luck because I know you're going to fail (because you hired Indians who are cheaper than me)".

frank-germany said:

but I would never ever hire an Indian programmer again
when I would be able to hire a Russian or Ukrainian

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Sigh .. @frank-germany .. again .. that statement is 100% racist. When you blindly single out an entire race or country, that's racism. The fact you also write that you love Indians doesn't change the fact you also made a racist statement.

Maybe what you meant to say is more like "I've had a bad history with some Indians I've worked with, and so going forward I choose to focus looking for workers elsewhere".

Frank .. you seriously need to be more careful with what you write. I know your intention isn't to be racist or hateful .. but you need to respect the fact that your communication skills are unfortunately very bad .. and as such you really need to make an extra effort to be as precise and exact when you say things.

frank-germany said:

yes his best maybe
but good advice?

proof it

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Frank, I actually appreciate your cynicism on NP. It adds some flavor to this forum, and you're actually quite intelligent.

As for your take on Rob, and your relentless criticism, I'll continue to disagree with your opinions. I think Rob and his staff are some of the most valuable contributors to this forum, hands down.

Ategy said:

Reread the first page .. in @cipcip post to you:


If you read the entirety of his posts he was very obviously wishing you "good luck" sarcastically and thus implying blindly that he was better than Indians.

The context of his "Good luck" was in the sarcastic sense "Good luck because I know you're going to fail (because you hired Indians who are cheaper than me)".



Sigh .. @frank-germany .. again .. that statement is 100% racist. When you blindly single out an entire race or country, that's racism. The fact you also write that you love Indians doesn't change the fact you also made a racist statement.

Maybe what you meant to say is more like "I've had a bad history with some Indians I've worked with, and so going forward I choose to focus looking for workers elsewhere".

Frank .. you seriously need to be more careful with what you write. I know your intention isn't to be racist or hateful .. but you need to respect the fact that your communication skills are unfortunately very bad .. and as such you really need to make an extra effort to be as precise and exact when you say things.

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I've had a bad history with the Indians I've worked with,
and so going forward I choosed to focus looking for workers in Russia and Ukraina
where I had a great experience

all were great people

additionally,
I know others had the same results

So I would not choose an Indian as my programmer in the future
as I want to avoid another bad experience
but that's my own preference
you may choose differently


and I really love india
and all the indians I met were really nice and honorable people
,

Bernard Wright said:

Frank, I actually appreciate your cynicism on NP. It adds some flavor to this forum, and you're actually quite intelligent.

As for your take on Rob, and your relentless criticism, I'll continue to disagree with your opinions. I think Rob and his staff are some of the most valuable contributors to this forum, hands down.

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blindly following a leader hasn't been a great choice for Germans in the past

personally I learned already in school and even more later on
to look a little more into the details
and question everything
before worshipping

and let me add
for now, I don't suffer from Alzheimer's disease

when I first came to know about Rob
everything he posted was absolute insane
( I try to be nice here )
and from there I started to read his stuff with different ears.

Tia Wood said:

I changed the title to: "Epik/Rob Monster should not be compared to Adam Dicker"

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lol .. that's far worse ... again .. the title you chose implies that the comparison in question is something people actually think ... when in fact it's just one person who said it who nobody takes seriously in any way.

Tia Wood said:

People want to get mad at me for a title I carelessly wrote but not the false accusation in the quote above?

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I think this is likely the root of the problem and what I expected above. I don't blame you for thinking the way you do on this @Tia Wood ... but the most important fact you're unfortunately not aware of is that unfortunately nobody takes anything @frank-germany says seriously in any way. And specifically 1000x less seriously when it's one of his usual almost daily rambles against @Rob Monster.

That's why the rest of us were confused .. because what you wrote (BOTH title and first post content) lead to the assumption that there was some significant reason why people should think there's a possibility that @Rob Monster is a scammer. When in fact the rest of us give absolute zero weight or importance or credibility to anything @frank-germany says against Rob. So all of us really were expecting that you had other reasons than just a random @frank-germany post for as to why people might think he could be a scammer.


I'd highly suggest you change your title to something like "My positive experience working with Rob Monster" .. because honestly any title that even puts into doubt there might be a valid reason why Rob Monster might be a scammer is very misleading. Or if you still want it to be somewhat click-baity then put "My experience working with Rob Monster". But you really need to remove anything that even puts into question whether Rob is a scammer.


ADDED: lmao .. I see you already did change the title to something more appropriate before I was able to submit this post .. good on you for that!

Hats off to @Tia Wood for changing the title!
Much appreciated!

Ategy said:

... when in fact it's just one person who said it who nobody takes seriously in any way.
... but the most important fact you're unfortunately not aware of is that unfortunately nobody takes anything @frank-germany says seriously in any way

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thank you Ategy - that is good news

just when I was starting to think
"I should censor my words in order not hurt anybody feelings anywhere and nowhere"

you calmed my mood
and all is fine

AnthonyD said:

Hey, I have a friend, known him for 35 years. He can play the guitar, by ear mind you, just as good as Eddie Van Halen. He's a "hobbyist", never had a professional gig, yet by ever single person that has ever heard him play - thinks he's phenomenal. Close your eyes and listen to him or a cut from a record and you would be very hard pressed to tell the difference. He can play the guitar strings off a guitar with his eyes closed. Never had training. Self-taught.

Missed calling, perhaps, perhaps not. Those of us with no musical inclination all say he did miss his calling. Either way, it doesnt make him any less knowledgeable than his guitar idols.

My point: do not ever count out the hobbyist.

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I was talking about the hobbyist that seems to have no idea that some companies do this kind of thing. If I posted some companies also buy theircompanysucks.com, for various reasons. I would have people argue that I was wrong. I'm sure the are some people on this forum that know more about marketing, some that call themselves SEO's that understand what I posted. What I posted is true.

frank-germany said:

when I first came to know about Rob
everything he posted was absolute insane
( I try to be nice here )

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Frank .. as much as you might be surprised for me to say this .. but you're entitled to think Rob says crazy things. On rare occasion I'd even agree with you because Rob does say a lot and obviously I don't always "automatically" agree with him .. lol. But there's a big difference between (A) saying he promotes too much and (B) saying he's a scammer and should be compared to Adam Dicker.

Those are two very VERY different things. Rob certainly does post enough borderline promotional posts that you most certainly are allowed to personally think it crosses a line for you. But there really is no history or any evidence that @Rob Monster has ever scammed anyone. The very fact you posted that has lead to this entire discussion. It was both inappropriate and wrong for you to post that assumption.

I wasn't a domainer back in the time of Adam dicker .. but I do know that he scammed a lot of people in this industry out of a lot of money .. so whether you like rob or not, even a comparison to Adam Dicker is very inappropriate.

Internet.Domains said:

Hats off to @Tia Wood for changing the title!
Much appreciated!

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Yeah .. I never doubted her intentions .. it's just that unfortunately I think she took @frank-germany original comment in that other thread too seriously not knowing that the rest of us put no value on the Frank<>Rob exchanges. So while she most certainly was not wrong with what she said, the rest of us took the potential Rob<>Scammer comparison much more seriously because I think we all expected for it to be based on more than just a random frank-germany post.

She's most certainly not to blame .. and if you look at my earlier posts, you'll see that this wasn't even a surprise to me. I don't know @Tia Wood very well .. I don't think we've even ever communicated .. but I've seen enough of her posts to know that she's got integrity and that to her this was about something serious and the "click-bait" title was because she thought people would have taken Frank more seriously combined with the fact she's likely a good writer.

In the end .. nothing further to see here .. move along .. lol

JB Lions said:

I was talking about the hobbyist that seems to have no idea that some companies do this kind of thing. If I posted some companies also buy theircompanysucks.com, for various reasons. I would have people argue that I was wrong. I'm sure the are some people on this forum that know more about marketing, some that call themselves SEO's that understand what I posted. What I posted is true.

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Cognitive Marketing

frank-germany said:

thank you Ategy - that is good news
just when I was starting to think
"I should censor my words in order not hurt anybody feelings anywhere and nowhere"
you calmed my mood
and all is fine

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@frank-germany .. seriously .. it often bothers me that I'm always writing these sorts of posts seemingly against you. Because the fact is that even if twice you wrote things that WERE racist, I know you're not a racist. I also know that even if often what you say against @Rob Monster is often very antagonistic, that you don't "hate" him, and that you have genuine intentions of just calling him out for what you personally think is over-promotions. You're not a bad person .. and oddly enough I think that if I was to sit down at a bar with both you and Rob together in person that we'd actually have a great time and great discussions.

BUT .. it's just that in written form a lot of what you post is just over the top. I understand and respect that English isn't your first language. But you make things a lot worse by not double checking things and more importantly by deliberately not using complete and proper sentences.

In some contexts it's totally fine and could even be fun. But when you're talking against other people you really need to tone it down a bit .. you need to double and triple check what you write *AND* what others have written before you .. and please please please in these more important discussions please use complete sentences!

Ategy said:

@frank-germany .. seriously .. it often bothers me that I'm always writing these sorts of posts seemingly against you. Because the fact is that even if twice you wrote things that WERE racist, I know you're not a racist. I also know that even if often what you say against @Rob Monster is often very antagonistic, that you don't "hate" him, and that you have genuine intentions of just calling him out for what you personally think is over-promotions. You're not a bad person .. and oddly enough I think that if I was to sit down at a bar with both you and Rob together in person that we'd actually have a great time and great discussions.

BUT .. it's just that in written form a lot of what you post is just over the top. I understand and respect that English isn't your first language. But you make things a lot worse by not double checking things and more importantly by deliberately not using complete and proper sentences.

In some contexts it's totally fine and could even be fun. But when you're talking against other people you really need to tone it down a bit .. you need to double and triple check what you AND what others write .. and please please please in these more important discussions please use complete sentences!

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thanks @Ategy

I honor and do actually believe what you say.

@Ategy if you watch the movie Die Welle (The Wave) ... you'll see things from a different perspective / different points of view.

Lox said:

it’s all good ... in 10 hours, views 1300, comments 40+ . It helps to clear the air and we already know that sometimes ppl love throwing the kitchen sink and unique dishes at R.M. (This sport may gain IOC recognition and become a competing event at the Olympic Games 2021)

Regards

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It is not about the members of this forum. It is about Google indexing.

When I search for a company or person and there are titles like this coming up, that already gives the sour feeling that is hard to overcome. And, again, it is scientifically proven that a considerable percentage of people never actually read beyond the titles and make conclusions based on them.

If the policy on the forum doesn't change, it is not safe for anyone to be here, as the administration will ignore the potential damage to the reputation of its members for the clickbait clicks from the search.

I have a forum with millions of posts in it and it was never tolerated to post anything damaging to anyone's reputation without substantial proof.

PS just noticed the title change. Thanks to the team and Tia. But it has to become the policy. No clickbaits with people's names and reputations.

Lox said:

Cognitive Marketing

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Reputation management.

"Reputation management refers to the influencing and controlling of an individual's or group's reputation. Originally a public relations term, the growth of the internet and social media, along with reputation management companies, have made search results a core part of an individual's or group's reputation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_management

Would a company rather own theircompanysucks.com or do you want that in the hands of a competitor or pissed off consumer?

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Haven't kept up on it, too many new gtlds but there was that .sucks extension. Is that still a thing?

"Early registration begins later this month, but brands that want to register their trademarked names before the general public will pay a hefty price."

https://marketingland.com/controversial-sucks-domain-almost-here-121505

Doesn't resolve anymore but....

Apple.Sucks

Apple knows that criticism is inevitable, and that providing your users with a channel to vent is more productive than letting them take to Twitter. Hence, Apple.Sucks—which smartly redirects to their Product Feedback page.

JB Lions said:

Reputation management.

"Early registration begins later this month, but brands that want to register their trademarked names before the general public will pay a hefty price."

https://marketingland.com/controversial-sucks-domain-almost-here-121505

Doesn't resolve anymore but....

Apple.Sucks

Apple knows that criticism is inevitable, and that providing your users with a channel to vent is more productive than letting them take to Twitter. Hence, Apple.Sucks—which smartly redirects to their Product Feedback page.

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JB Lions said:

Haven't kept up on it, too many new gtlds but there was that .sucks extension. Is that still a thing?

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Looks like it's going to get a lot bigger .. skip to 5m30s mark:
https://domainnamewire.com/2020/02/03/namescon-roundup-dnw-podcast-271/

JB Lions said:

Reputation management.

"Reputation management refers to the influencing and controlling of an individual's or group's reputation. Originally a public relations term, the growth of the internet and social media, along with reputation management companies, have made search results a core part of an individual's or group's reputation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_management

Would a company rather own theircompanysucks.com or do you want that in the hands of a competitor or pissed off consumer?

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Haven't kept up on it, too many new gtlds but there was that .sucks extension. Is that still a thing?

"Early registration begins later this month, but brands that want to register their trademarked names before the general public will pay a hefty price."

https://marketingland.com/controversial-sucks-domain-almost-here-121505

Doesn't resolve anymore but....

Apple.Sucks

Apple knows that criticism is inevitable, and that providing your users with a channel to vent is more productive than letting them take to Twitter. Hence, Apple.Sucks—which smartly redirects to their Product Feedback page.

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You'll have to learn (in-deep) what's cognitive marketing. The reputation management is like walking on a razor blade and singing in the tunnel full of pink flamingos.

Ategy said:

Looks like it's going to get a lot bigger .. skip to 5m30s mark:
https://domainnamewire.com/2020/02/03/namescon-roundup-dnw-podcast-271/

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So still a thing and she was saying that brands can register their competitor's names.

JB Lions said:

So still a thing and she was saying that brands can register their competitor's names.

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Seem's like it wasn't established previously if brands could legally register the .sucks of their competitors, and that in the past it was only for individuals (mainly those who had non-marketing motives).

But according to that it seems like brands can now indeed use their competitors ___.sucks as part of their marketing.

I don't quote understand that decision because as odd as it sounds, that would actually be trademark infraction because the company who owns the other company's .sucks brand in theory would be using it to profit. It's rather touchy if you ask me.

But if you take 2 full steps back .. overall .sucks is just a horrible TLD .. it's probably going to end up being one of the biggest things that will eventually be used against domainers.

I understand there are most definitely legit and fair-use cases for the TLD .. but it's so prone to unobjective abuse that I don't really understand how it was allowed in the first place without there being some clear rules established.

Anyhow .. separate topic I suppose .. let me know if you start it elsewhere!

Ategy said:

@frank-germany .. seriously .. it often bothers me that I'm always writing these sorts of posts seemingly against you. Because the fact is that even if twice you wrote things that WERE racist, I know you're not a racist. I also know that even if often what you say against @Rob Monster is often very antagonistic, that you don't "hate" him, and that you have genuine intentions of just calling him out for what you personally think is over-promotions.

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after thinking about it for a while
I have come to the conclusion that my posts are not racism in any way

the beauty of the world in terms of travel experience
has its cause in different landscapes/weather and People

people are different around the globe
that has nothing to do with racism at all

The mentality of people is different.
That may have the cause in the weather
may have the cause in the beauty of the landscape they live in
may have cause in the religion they grew up with
may have a cause in their political environment

in some regions of the world,
people are more polite than in others
or more gentle as in others

some are more work-focused then others
that may partly be because of the normal temperatures during the day time

the accepted standards are different, too.

what you think of a decent outcome of your task
may be a joke for somebody else
and high tec in a different country
it's all influenced by what is the standard in that country.


I'm just aware that people work, think and act differently
in different areas of the world
when they have the same information and/or task

their approach is different

and that is great
it would be petty if that would change
as that would make travel a less desirable experience

corny, cant change a published books title not without alot of headaches. If i had seen the corny title i wouldnt have commented. Just saying.

No @frank-germany .. if you make a blind blanket negative statement against people of a certain race or country, that is racism/discrimination.

Again .. if you had been more specific and said something like "I've had bad experiences every time I've worked with an Indian [person or company]", then that would NOT be racist because it is not making a blind blanket statement about all 1.3 billion Indians.

But you very clearly did NOT make the distinction in the words you originally used and the words you used were a blanket statement pointing to all Indians being the same. I have news for you .. many Indians are different from each other .. many Germans are different from each other .. many Canadians are different from each other. To blindly make generic statements against the entire population of a country is wrong and discriminatory. PERIOD!

It really is pointless to discuss this any further because you clearly don't even understand your own words and sentences. I strongly suggest you stop posting on the subject because the words and sentences you use are indeed racist, even if that's not your intention!