Help me to use GoDaddy

frank-germany · Jan 15, 2020

for .com domains only:

what is the best and cheapest way to use godaddy as a registrar?
( transfer and hand reg)

is it recommended to use godaddy?

does using godaddy give you a benefit when it comes
domains sales?

what are the disadantages when you use godaddy?

is there a way to not have a 60 days lock for transfers at godaddy?

@Joe Styler
@Paul Nicks

oldtimer · Jan 18, 2020

frank-germany said:
I know near to nothing about GoDaddy

.....

so I need newbie help, please.

I am going to be a little "Cynical" here and say that there is not one experienced domainer on this forum who doesn't know how Godaddy works (even if they don't have any domains there currently).

Frank is just pretending to be Newbie here because by creating this thread he has set a trap (for guess who) to see if a certain person is going to jump in and promote his registrar.

Maybe we shouldn't be so naive here folks.

IMO

Bob Hawkes · Jan 18, 2020

Does anyone know if it is possible to get the GD Discount Club prices in US dollars? Every way I try removing the .ca it fills into URL it seems to revert to Canadian dollars. I simply ask because I wanted to do comparison with other pricing, but would prefer the US dollars for that. Thanks.
Bob

frank-germany · Jan 18, 2020

oldtimer said:
I am going to be a little "Cynical" here and say that there is not one experienced domainer on this forum who doesn't know how Godaddy works (even if they don't have any domains there currently).

Frank is just pretending to be Newbie here because by creating this thread he has set a trap (for guess who) to see if a certain person is going to jump in and promote his registrar.

Maybe we shouldn't be so naive here folks.

IMO

Maybe I should ignore you again...

But as you invoke suspicion
let me explain:

I hold my domains mainly at german registrars
owning mainly .de domains

I couldn't care about using GoDaddy or any other international registrar for .de domains
as you may understand.

Having used Epik
and wanting to leave them

and having sold a domain at afternic for more than I asked for
due to the great support and negotiation skills of an afternic employee

Due to the fact the I absolutely disliked GoDaddy
for their interface
and upsells
I tried to never use GoDaddy at all

Mike Mann has moved his domains to GoDaddy
I read about GoDaddy sales a lot at namepros

read about GoDaddy auctions
and have not used them at all

So I might have missed out on some great opportunities...

I might change my mind now
and use GoDaddy for my .com only

beeing a member of namepros
I don't need to make all the possible mistakes
and can just ask here.

oldtimer · Jan 18, 2020

frank-germany said:
Maybe I should ignore you again...

But as you invoke suspicion
let me explain:

I hold my domains mainly at german registrars
owning mainly .de domains

I couldn't care about using GoDaddy or any other international registrar for .de domains
as you may understand.

Having used Epik
and wanting to leave them

and having sold a domain at afternic for more than I asked for
due to the great support and negotiation skills of an afternic employee

Due to the fact the I absolutely disliked GoDaddy
for their interface
and upsells
I tried to never use GoDaddy at all

Mike Mann has moved his domains to GoDaddy
I read about GoDaddy sales a lot at namepros

read about GoDaddy auctions
and have not used them at all

So I might have missed out on some great opportunities...

I might change my mind now
and use GoDaddy for my .com only

beeing a member of namepros
I don't need to make all the possible mistakes
and can just ask here.

Okay, maybe you are a Newbie when it comes to GoDaddy.

But you surely understand why I might be a little suspicious here, nevertheless I like Godaddy and have used them for many years now, but in general I am not happy when a registrar is in competition for your domains and can't wait to grab them once they are about to expire, the only registrar that I know of that gives you full 35 days to renew your domains I believe is Fabulous.com

IMO

tonyk2000 · Jan 18, 2020

Bob Hawkes said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get the GD Discount Club prices in US dollars? Every way I try removing the .ca it fills into URL it seems to revert to Canadian dollars. I simply ask because I wanted to do comparison with other pricing, but would prefer the US dollars for that. Thanks.
Bob

Did you try to independently select both the country (Canada - English) and the currency (USD) in the bottom of the homepage? Meaning setting it using the menu, not by changing URL

frank-germany · Jan 18, 2020

oldtimer said:
Okay, maybe you are a Newbie when it comes to GoDaddy.

But you surely understand why I might be a little suspicious here, nevertheless I like Godaddy and have used them for many years now, but in general I am not happy when a registrar is in competition for your domains and can't wait to grab them once they are about to expire, the only registrar that I know of that gives you full 35 days to renew your domains I believe is Fabulous.com

IMO

the only registrar that allowed me to generate auth codes for expired .com
is GoDaddy

neither epik nor namesilo nor dyndat do that

and that is one of the main reasons
I think of switching to GoDaddy

oldtimer · Jan 18, 2020

frank-germany said:
the only registrar that allowed me to generate auth codes for expired .com
is GoDaddy

neither epik nor namesilo nor dyndat do that

It seems that every registrar has some pros and some cons so you just have to choose the one that matches your needs, most experienced people here use several registrars at the same time for different domains and purposes.

IMO

tonyk2000 · Jan 18, 2020

frank-germany said:
the only registrar that allowed me to generate auth codes for expired .com
is GoDaddy

neither epik nor namesilo nor dyndat do that

Unsure about Epik, but you can definitely download csv with authcodes (including expired domains codes) on NameSilo. It may not be possible to unlock the expired domain using GUI though.
CSV download also works in GD case, with authcodes included. May be easier (vs. requesting emails)

boker · Jan 18, 2020

MapleDots said:
Here is my list of good at godaddy...

PROS

1. Instant push to most domainers (almost everyone has an account)
2. Option to turn off 60 day lock
3. Seems to get less spam when registering a new domain (godaddy whois somehow provides more protection)
4. All domains are actually with godaddy, a lot of registrars use other services for some extensions.
5. Absolutely great bulk tools.
6. Listing at auction can be done in a couple clicks, no verifying needed.
7. Can cross list with Afternic
8. Can use godaddy landers
9. Can have godaddy or afternic do all the negotiating for you.
10. Integrate godaddy appraisal tool into your control panel, shows godaddy appraised value (nice tool)
11. The interface is getting almost constant updates now, getting easier all the time.
12. Lots of warnings even when auto renew is shut off, you should never lose a domain.
13. No waiting to get transfer codes (unlike some other registrars)
14. Everything is automated so it works on weekends and nap times.
15. Very easy to park domains.

CONS

1. Sales are only good on new registrations or services, not on renewals.
2. Pricing is higher than at other registrars.
3. You have to purchase domain club to get pricing at par with the more aggressive registrars.

So for me the big question was....

Do I pay for Domain Club to get all the PROS for godaddy and is it worth it to me?

Well for me I value my time the most so the answer was yes. Godaddy has saved me so much time that I figured the domain club was worth it. For one of my businesses I charge for my time and I can make way more money instead of wasting time doing useless domain verifications etc.

Who would I consider if I ever changed?

My top choice would be Epik and I predict an epic battle coming in the future for which one of those two companies will take the most domainer business.

In my opinion the leader will be the one of convenience..... real domainers own hundreds if not thousands of domains. Give me the tools, convenience and pricing and you will get my business.

First of all, I should say that I think that you are in the first place mostly a buyer and just secondly a seller, so you don't have to go through all the pain an average domainer has to go, but I could be wrong.

Let's see your pros:

1. I have seen a lot of domainers( including pros 15+ years accounts) who really hate godaddy or at least they don't like them, but I didn't heard to many domainers to hate/dislike namesilo/dynadot and others, so the push to a domainer could be done as easyly to namesilo, dynadot.
2.As far as I know, you can remove the 60 days lock just in special cases, like hen some info is changed and some others, but for a freshly registered domain the 60 days is there as per Icann rules, correct me if I'm wrong PS: some registrar are removing your lock automatically in these cases, without having to ask them
3.Whois protection works the same for most big registrars and I don't see any difference between them
4. I don't really understand this point, you are saying that namesilo or dynadot are using other registrars for ngtlds?
5. I wonder what bulk tools can you name comparing them with epik, namesilo, dynadot
6. Listing at auction can be done as fast at any other registrar, even faster at some of them.
7. Registering with namesilo, dynadot, epik, your domains will appear in the same time at afternic network(including godaddy) and at sedo in the same time, so I can see it as a minus.
8.Do you think that godaddy landers are better than let's say epik landers? The dozens of namepros threads about landers will not agree with you.
9.Do you think that a company with tens of millions of customers are doing more for you than let's say epik, namesilo, uniregistry( including here the 72 hours response time, the upsells and much more)
10.Uniregistry has just gived up to estibot appraisal tool, after couple of years of using it, so that should prove that there is no value in an automated appraisal tool when you list your domains.
11.This is a point which should have a dozens subpoints, talking about the multitude of bugs at godaddy, so it will be easier to just redirect you to around 10 namepros threads talking about godaddy
12.interface/bugs
13. I have never counted them, but for example epik starts giving you warning starting with 3 months ahead, so I can't understand why do you think that godaddy is better
14. I can't understand what do you mean by automated, do you refer to the 3 days response time, to the 7 days checking the funds, to the 72 hours verifying a listing...automated is a system like undeveloped(even for them not everything is smooth) for me goddady is archaic when you are talking about automated and 2020
15. So it's hard to park domains with namesilo, epik, dynadot???

frank-germany · Jan 18, 2020

tonyk2000 said:
Unsure about Epik, but you can definitely download csv with authcodes (including expired domains codes) on NameSilo. It may not be possible to unlock the expired domain using GUI though.
CSV download also works in GD case, with authcodes included. May be easier (vs. requesting emails)

epik takes over your domain as soon as possible
and add their own for sale lander on a domain you let expire
so they can evaluate the traffic
and decide if they keep it themself

I hate it

same is true for namesilo

frank-germany · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
First of all, I should say that I think that you are in the first place mostly a buyer and just secondly a seller, so you don't have to go through all the pain an average domainer has to go, but I could be wrong.

Let's see your pros:

1. I have seen a lot of domainers( including pros 15+ years accounts) who really hate godaddy or at least they don't like them, but I didn't heard to many domainers to hate/dislike namesilo/dynadot and others, so the push to a domainer could be done as easyly to namesilo, dynadot.
2.As far as I know, you can remove the 60 days lock just in special cases, like hen some info is changed and some others, but for a freshly registered domain the 60 days is there as per Icann rules, correct me if I'm wrong PS: some registrar are removing your lock automatically in these cases, without having to ask them
3.Whois protection works the same for most big registrars and I don't see any difference between them
4. I don't really understand this point, you are saying that namesilo or dynadot are using other registrars for ngtlds?
5. I wonder what bulk tools can you name comparing them with epik, namesilo, dynadot
6. Listing at auction can be done as fast at any other registrar, even faster at some of them.
7. Registering with namesilo, dynadot, epik, your domains will appear in the same time at afternic network(including godaddy) and at sedo in the same time, so I can see it as a minus.
8.Do you think that godaddy landers are better than let's say epik landers? The dozens of namepros threads about landers will not agree with you.
9.Do you think that a company with tens of millions of customers are doing more for you than let's say epik, namesilo, uniregistry( including here the 72 hours response time, the upsells and much more)
10.Uniregistry has just gived up to estibot appraisal tool, after couple of years of using it, so that should prove that there is no value in an automated appraisal tool when you list your domains.
11.This is a point which should have a dozens subpoints, talking about the multitude of bugs at godaddy, so it will be easier to just redirect you to around 10 namepros threads talking about godaddy
12.interface/bugs
13. I have never counted them, but for example epik starts giving you warning starting with 3 months ahead, so I can't understand why do you think that godaddy is better
14. I can't understand what do you mean by automated, do you refer to the 3 days response time, to the 7 days checking the funds, to the 72 hours verifying a listing...automated is a system like undeveloped(even for them not everything is smooth) for me goddady is archaic when you are talking about automated and 2020
15. So it's hard to park domains with namesilo, epik, dynadot???

"3.Whois protection works the same for most big registrars and I don't see any difference between them"

I don't want privacy on my names
so no valid point for me

"6. Listing at auction can be done as fast at any other registrar, even faster at some of them."

GoDaddy Auctions?

"8.Do you think that godaddy landers are better than let's say epik landers? The dozens of namepros threads about landers will not agree with you."

I just want to leave epik
and I really don't appreciate their landers more than lets say like DAN

"13. I have never counted them, but for example epik starts giving you warning starting with 3 months ahead, so I can't understand why do you think that godaddy is better"

They are far better, as I said earlier
you can take out expired domains at GoDaddy

and Godaddy definetely sends more warning emails

"15. So it's hard to park domains with namesilo, epik, dynadot???"

I don't want to own domains for parking
but for sales

boker · Jan 18, 2020

frank-germany said:
"3.Whois protection works the same for most big registrars and I don't see any difference between them"

I don't want privacy on my names
so no valid point for me

"6. Listing at auction can be done as fast at any other registrar, even faster at some of them."

GoDaddy Auctions?

"8.Do you think that godaddy landers are better than let's say epik landers? The dozens of namepros threads about landers will not agree with you."

I just want to leave epik
and I really don't appreciate their landers more than lets say like DAN

"13. I have never counted them, but for example epik starts giving you warning starting with 3 months ahead, so I can't understand why do you think that godaddy is better"

They are far better, as I said earlier
you can take out expired domains at GoDaddy

and Godaddy definetely sends more warning emails

"15. So it's hard to park domains with namesilo, epik, dynadot???"

I don't want to own domains for parking
but for sales

Selling through godaddy the main pro thing will be their marketplace, but I don't think that to many end users are buying through godaddy auctions, as I see it there are mostly domainers. If you want to benefit from godaddy marketplace for end users you will need to use the make offer feature, but in the same time you need to handle their bugs, their 72 hours response time, their upsells and much more...so from my point doesn't worth it.

frank-germany · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
Selling through godaddy the main pro thing will be their marketplace, but I don't think that to many end users are buying through godaddy auctions, as I see it there are mostly domainers. If you want to benefit from godaddy marketplace for end users you will need to use the make offer feature, but in the same time you need to handle their bugs, their 72 hours response time, their upsells and much more...so from my point doesn't worth it.

I always thought the same
that's why I stared asking here

MapleDots · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
1. I have seen a lot of domainers( including pros 15+ years accounts) who really hate godaddy or at least they don't like them, but I didn't heard to many domainers to hate/dislike namesilo/dynadot and others, so the push to a domainer could be done as easyly to namesilo, dynadot.

It's a love hate relationship but in the end you use whoever has the best tools and for me it's godaddy.

Remember it's always the squeaky wheel that gets the oil, for every one domainer that complains there are 10 using godaddy with no complaints. THe one guy that has an issue is always the one to complain.

MapleDots · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
3.Whois protection works the same for most big registrars and I don't see any difference between them

Actually that is not quite correct, I don't use privacy with godaddy and will rarely if ever get a spam phone call when I register a new .com. By comparisons when I was with another registrar I started getting spam calls the next day after I registered a .com. Godaddy forces you to go to their site to look up whois and I think that is another layer some of the other registrars don't have.

MapleDots · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
4. I don't really understand this point, you are saying that namesilo or dynadot are using other registrars for ngtlds?

Yes there are lots of registrars that sublet other extensions. The one I was with previously did all my .ca's and then sublet the .com's to enom. I was with another registrar that did similar but at godaddy ALL extensions actually sit at godaddy.

tonyk2000 · Jan 18, 2020

MapleDots said:
Actually that is not quite correct, I don't use privacy with godaddy and will rarely if ever get a spam phone call when I register a new .com. By comparisons when I was with another registrar I started getting spam calls the next day after I registered a .com.

Since @frank-germany is in Germany (are you, Frank?) - each and every .com registrar should have an obligation to hide his whois details almost 100% from public view. EU GDPR. So GoDaddy in this aspect should not be different from any other registrar Frank may use for .com

MapleDots · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
6. Listing at auction can be done as fast at any other registrar, even faster at some of them.

OK, so your domains are at another registrar and you want to put 500 of them at godaddy auction, how fast can you do that? I can do it in seconds.

Sure same is said if I try to list at another marteketplace, I too would have to go through a long process but I am happy with being at the biggest marketplaces. Godaddy and afternic is available in a couple of keystrokes if I decide to list 1 or 1000 domains at the same time.

frank-germany · Jan 18, 2020

tonyk2000 said:
Since @frank-germany is in Germany (are you, Frank?) - each and every .com registrar should have an obligation to hide his whois details almost 100% from public view. EU GDPR. So GoDaddy in this aspect should not be different from any other registrar Frank may use for .com

I don't want privacy
as I want to sell my domains

I'm over 18 years old
so I want to decide myself what others can see

no, I'm not in germany:
that's fake news of-course

boker · Jan 18, 2020

MapleDots said:
It's a love hate relationship but in the end you use whoever has the best tools and for me it's godaddy.

Remember it's always the squeaky wheel that gets the oil, for every one domainer that complains there are 10 using godaddy with no complaints. THe one guy that has an issue is always the one to complain.

I know that you have bought some great .ca domains and if I'm not wrong, you were saying that you have around 1k domains or so, btu I don't don't how many transfers/change of registrars and so on have you done. I can tell you that I've done a little over 1000 transfers/pushes just in the last 3 years so I have a lot of experience with most registrars that matters. I can start listing issues I've had personally with godaddy, but I will derail the thread so I will just list a few: selling to a guy in UK, he had an account at godaddy and wanted the domain moved there, so I've gived him the auth code and it took 8 days to send me the email to confirm the transfer, so it took around 13 days to finalize, with godaddy put me on wit for 3 days every time, almost lost the sale( the bug was that godaddy has automated emails for confirming a transfer, so they were sending the confirmation to the registrar, not the registrant but they didn't cared about solving the issue, they were just resending the confirmation again and again to the wrong place. Also, you should try calling from Europe( because you don't want to wait 3 days for them to answer through email) and put you on hold for 30 minutes and then to let you know that they UK team is just for customer service regarding sales and if you want something from the auction team you should wait until the next day, when they are online(and than wait another 40 minutes for them to contact you). Also, I'm not even talking about their 22 days payouts, about their prices, about their missing lot's of cctlds and ngtlds. Also, I don't don't how many pushes were you doimg a few months ago, when it took forever to do a push. And I can go on and on with this bugs. Strangely, I don't have the same issues with namesilo, dynadot or epik and others. Also, you are saying that they have the biggest marketplace( and that's true) but you keep forgeting that they own only 17% of the total domains, so 83% of domains, if you will try to move them from other registrar,you will need a lot of patience. Also, the sales for last year are just here. they sale roughly for the same mounts as sedo, 30% more than uniregistry and double than undeveloped, so you are making it bigger than it is. You could say that you are benefiting from their big marketplace or that you loose the benefit from dealing with the registrars owning the rest of 83%.

boker · Jan 18, 2020

MapleDots said:
Yes there are lots of registrars that sublet other extensions. The one I was with previously did all my .ca's and then sublet the .com's to enom. I was with another registrar that did similar but at godaddy ALL extensions actually sit at godaddy.

We are comparing the main registrar, you can't compare godaddy to a small registrar(off course they will look good) and you should compare all the pros and cons with the same registrar( main one).

forge · Jan 18, 2020

frank-germany said:
no, I'm not in germany:
that's fake news of-course

Then circling the globe in a satellite of love would be my 2nd guess.

boker · Jan 18, 2020

MapleDots said:
Actually that is not quite correct, I don't use privacy with godaddy and will rarely if ever get a spam phone call when I register a new .com. By comparisons when I was with another registrar I started getting spam calls the next day after I registered a .com. Godaddy forces you to go to their site to look up whois and I think that is another layer some of the other registrars don't have.

I use around 10 registrars at the moment, and I have around 15-20 spam emails a day, that takes around 10-15 seconds to delete them, so no issues here. I've just checked my only domain with godaddy and it doesn't forces me to go to their website, so I don't know about this. Also, we should talk about the spam from godaddy, telling you that you have a 30% discount from the $17.99 full price or that a domain that you had checked through their system, is still available( this is another bad and long story)

forge · Jan 18, 2020

boker said:
Also, we should talk about the spam from godaddy, telling you that you have a 30% discount from the $17.99 full price or that a domain that you had checked through their system, is still available( this is another long story)

Honestly I don't get this stuff, am I just blessed?

boker · Jan 18, 2020

forge said:
Honestly I don't get this stuff, am I just blessed?

Maybe you don't do hand regs so much or maybe you don't check them at godaddy, but I've stopped doing that all together a few months ago, when I've lost a few domains in seconds after checking them at godaddy and they are the only registrar that proved that they are saving every check i'm doing and than trying to sell them(enough prove when you are loosing domains like this). Also, if you are using their discount club, probably it's not worth it to send you deals like this 30% out of $17.99, so they hunt the others.

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