information Introducing "757".....a Great Rebrand

manpreet said:

Just read your message with SeVa (meaning Southeast Virginia) but would just like to add that in India, and most of Indian Languages, this word has a great meaning.

You can simply search on Google with "seva meaning" and the top result would tell you:

Seva is a Sanskrit word meaning selfless service.

So in case you have any domains related to Seva, you can well utilize it at this part of the world for any "services" related website, which may turn out to be really Big.

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The story about Seva is very interesting. If you go to seva.com you'll read why the CEO of CoverKit.com paid $306,000 to rebrand his company to Seva.com and then didn't do it? It's a very interesting story that's over my head, but if you go to Seva.org you'll see an organization that helps restore sight throughout the world. It was founded here in America, but has connections to India. You should check the site out.

I had actually spoken with the CEO of Seva.org and explained to her why we might want to rebrand our area to become SeVa (which stood for Southeast Virginia) and she really didn't have a problem with it especially when I told her I could only see good coming from it. btw, to rebrand our region to become Seva we really didn't need to own the .com or any .com for that matter. We probably could have used Seva.gov if that were availailabe or even something like Seva.net.

I actually own about 20 domains like SeVaMortgage.com and SeVaSports.com, but since we're not rebranding to SeVa that's a case where I made a bad bet of about $200....no regrets though.

Thanks Manpreet

ThatNameGuy said:

The story about Seva is very interesting. If you go to seva.com you'll read why the CEO of CoverKit.com paid $306,000 to rebrand his company to Seva.com and then didn't do it? It's a very interesting story that's over my head, but if you go to Seva.org you'll see an organization that helps restore sight throughout the world. It was founded here in America, but has connections to India. You should check the site out.

I had actually spoken with the CEO of Seva.org and explained to her why we might want to rebrand our area to become SeVa (which stood for Southeast Virginia) and she really didn't have a problem with it especially when I told her I could only see good coming from it. btw, to rebrand our region to become Seva we really didn't need to own the .com or any .com for that matter. We probably could have used Seva.gov if that were availailabe or even something like Seva.net.

I actually own about 20 domains like SeVaMortgage.com and SeVaSports.com, but since we're not rebranding to SeVa that's a case where I made a bad bet of about $200....no regrets though.

Thanks Manpreet

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So do you still own any of these two - SeVa.com or SeVa.net, just curious.

manpreet said:

So do you still own any of these two - SeVa.com or SeVa.net, just curious.

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I sure do...i just checked and I actually own 30 instead of 20, and if you pm me with a request I'll send you the list. If there is anything you think you can do with any of them 60% for you and 40% for me if that works. Thanks.

ThatNameGuy said:

I sure do...i just checked and I actually own 30 instead of 20, and if you pm me with a request I'll send you the list. If there is anything you think you can do with any of them 60% for you and 40% for me if that works. Thanks.

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Sure, I will PM you, thanks!

Even though the 757 is as indicated a major region, I might add to this discussion that even seemingly the smaller tourist markets can be highly lucrative if properly developed and promoted. If you have not listened to this podcast at Kickstart Commerce between Jessica Doppelt and @Alvin Brown, give it a listen. I actually had not even heard of the town of Durango, but she has developed a very profitable site around it.

Bob

Interesting thread.

I'm not North American so can't comment precisely on the usage of 'vacation' but I would agree with Ategy that it sounds awkward.

VisitGeo.com is the tried and true formula. You can 'visit a place' but you can't 'vacation a place'. At least that's how I interpret the usage.

And it looks like you may have missed the big one here. Visit757.com was registered 1 week ago by the Hampton tourism board.

If the term 757 has been used by locals for years then any local businesses that wanted to use it might have done so already.

Of course there might be some opportunity in tourism related domains but I'm not sure where.

James Rayers said:

Interesting thread.

I'm not North American so can't comment precisely on the usage of 'vacation' but I would agree with Ategy that it sounds awkward.

VisitGeo.com is the tried and true formula. You can 'visit a place' but you can't 'vacation a place'. At least that's how I interpret the usage.

And it looks like you may have missed the big one here. Visit757.com was registered 1 week ago by the Hampton tourism board.

If the term 757 has been used by locals for years then any local businesses that wanted to use it might have done so already.

Of course there might be some opportunity in tourism related domains but I'm not sure where.

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Thanks James...but I'm not sure you understand how and why we rebranded our area from "Hampton Roads" to "757". I get what you're saying about "VisitGeo.com being a tried and proven formula", but I own names like Tour757.com as well Having started and named dozens of businesses in the "757" myself over the last 50 years, I sort of understand my area better than the average outsider. That said however, I've actually picked up on some of the more popular destination "area code" locations and applied the same logic for names like; VisitXXX, TourXXX VacationXXX and DineXXX. I haven't made any money YET, but I'm sure having fun

Today I ended up on https://www.757angelsgroup.com/ regarding something unrelated.

They refer to 2 additional 757 domains they use in their footer. @ThatNameGuy , might be a niche to look into if you're still expanding your 757 portfolio.

Bob Hawkes said:

Even though the 757 is as indicated a major region, I might add to this discussion that even seemingly the smaller tourist markets can be highly lucrative if properly developed and promoted. If you have not listened to this podcast at Kickstart Commerce between Jessica Doppelt and @Alvin Brown, give it a listen. I actually had not even heard of the town of Durango, but she has developed a very profitable site around it.

Bob

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Thanks Bob...i listened to the podcast, but Jessica basically owns and operates a couple of online destination websites that happen to have a domain name attached to them. Did you hear where she paid 100K for the domain PigeonForge.com back in 2001, and it didn't come with the website, the content or clients? That baffles me? That said, she must have done something right. It reminds me of when a partner and I bought an IBM System 36 computer in 1978 for 100K to start a medical billing business and the damn computer was obsolete in 5 years, but somehow we made it

Your point about geo domains for tourist and destination markets being highly lucrative IF developed and promoted is well taken. Thanks

NameDeck said:

Today I ended up on https://www.757angelsgroup.com/ regarding something unrelated.

They refer to 2 additional 757 domains they use in their footer. @ThatNameGuy , might be a niche to look into if you're still expanding your 757 portfolio.

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Thanks NameDeck...i live in a pretty big small town and know most of the players in the 757 Angel Group. There was a time I could have used their help, but there wasn't a fit. That said, I'm still seeking a technical equity partner who can compliment my talents (assuming I have any).

James Rayers said:

Interesting thread.

I'm not North American so can't comment precisely on the usage of 'vacation' but I would agree with Ategy that it sounds awkward.

VisitGeo.com is the tried and true formula. You can 'visit a place' but you can't 'vacation a place'. At least that's how I interpret the usage.

And it looks like you may have missed the big one here. Visit757.com was registered 1 week ago by the Hampton tourism board.

If the term 757 has been used by locals for years then any local businesses that wanted to use it might have done so already.

Of course there might be some opportunity in tourism related domains but I'm not sure where.

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Thank you for Visit321.com....here's why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_321
I'd own Tour321 and Vacation321 but they were both taken. Looks like someone really missed the blue ribbon of area code geo domains. Besides the SpaceCoast, parts of Orlando/Disney are also included in "321" Thanks again

ThatNameGuy said:

but Jessica basically owns and operates a couple of online destination websites that happen to have a domain name attached to them. Did you hear where she paid 100K for the domain PigeonForge.com back in 2001, and it didn't come with the website, the content or clients? That baffles me?

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I too was surprised both by amount paid and also that rather small markets could be so lucrative, but clearly her long term success has shown that she was right. I am really glad @Alvin Brown did the interview with her, because I think it points towards a somewhat untapped market. We can buy and sell domain names for a profit. Alternatively, some park them and make a little bit regularly. Others develop sites, but for many I think when they consider monetization they think Adsense and similar services. But it is far more lucrative to develop the way she did. Now that only works if one knows the areas well (even though she does not live in them she visited many times) and that one is willing to put into the ongoing effort both with respect to marketing and new content development. Hats off to her for great success.

Ever since I said the following...

Bob Hawkes said:

my personal opinion is that it is dangerous to invest in geo domain names unless you know the area well. I recall reading, probably on NamePros possibly not, that a domain investor said he/she never invested in a name related to a place they had not personally visited. I think that is good advice

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I've felt a little guilty, because, well, I don't completely follow my own advice!! I currently do hold two regional names of places I have never visited! I didn't invest much (one a hand-reg at standard rates the other a low value purchase from a domainer) and they are places I have read about and would like to visit, but I never have. I still think the advice is good, just wanted to be honest that I don't always follow it!

Bob

Bob Hawkes said:

I too was surprised both by amount paid and also that rather small markets could be so lucrative, but clearly her long term success has shown that she was right.

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Pigeon Forge is a massive vacation/entertainment area. It is kind of like Branson, MO.

It is right next to Great Smoky Mountains National Park, the #1 most visited national park with more than 11M visitors in 2018.

I have family in the area, so I am quite familiar with it.
That price is easily justified.

Brad

bmugford said:

Pigeon Forge is a massive vacation/entertainment area. It is kind of like Branson, MO.

It is right next to Great Smoky Mountains National Park, the #1 most visited national park with more than 11M visitors in 2018.

I have family in the area, so I am quite familiar with it.
That price is easily justified.

Brad

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Thanks for additional information. I have never visited the area, and it is not nearly as well known in Canada as the best known US tourist destinations. I was able to find a two year old indicator of tourism spending for the Pigeon Forge, about $1.5 billion in 2017.

That is actually pretty comparable to tourism spending in the city I live in, which I definitely consider a tourism destination. Of course both are somewhat less than the tourism spending figure for the more populated 757 area of this thread.

Thanks for the information. I love national parks, and nice to now know the most visited one in US!

Bob

[QUOTE="Bob Hawkes, post: 7543409, member: 1002079"]Thanks for additional information. I have never visited the area, and it is not nearly as well known in Canada as the best known US tourist destinations. I was able to find a two year old indicator of tourism spending for the Pigeon Forge, about $1.5 billion in 2017.

That is actually pretty comparable to tourism spending in the city I live in, which I definitely consider a tourism destination. Of course both are somewhat less than the tourism spending figure for the more populated 757 area of this thread.

Thanks for the information. I love national parks, and nice to now know the most visited one in US!

Bob[/QUOTE]
Bob...the rebranding for "757" came about a week ago today, and the really good "757" domains have been flying off the domain shelf. Names like 757Family, 757Pizza, Visit757 and other names that were on my list to possibly buy are gone as well. We have two main attractions within the "757", Virginia Beach and Williamsburg. In 2017 Virginia Beach hosted 19 million domestic visitors (10.1 million overnight visitors and 8.9 million day visitors) with average overnight visitor spending of $588 per party. (Source: Longwoods International) and Williamsburg generated 1.3 Billion dollars in annual revenues for 2018.

I just have 18 "757" names with the last two being Ocean757.com and Coast757.com. I felt they might make for pretty good beach brands so I figured I better get them while they were available. Ironically someone already owned 757Ocean and 757Coast, but I feel my names may be more appealing nationally....but what do I know

Finally, I'll be giving a talk to my Kiwanis Club Thursday morning about the rebranding, and one of the first questions I'll be asked is, "Have you sold any yet"? To which I'll respond, OK Boomer

It would be interesting to have some stats on how often this style of name sells on the aftermarket (i.e. number + word; or more specifically area code + word). Namebio doesn't have any history of ever having sold a 757 + word or word + 757 domain (the one exception being game757.com for $253 in 2017).

It's encouraging for those investing in these names to see that some businesses are branding themselves using 757; however also discouraging to see that the names in question were likely all hand registered. Here are some samples:

• crossfit757.com
• 757makerspace.com
• 757battleofthebeers.com
• auction757.com
• 757dance.com
• acroyoga757.com

Interesting that of the six businesses on my first ten Google pages, three of them are fitness related!

Joe Nichols said:

It would be interesting to have some stats on how often this style of name sells on the aftermarket (i.e. number + word; or more specifically area code + word). Namebio doesn't have any history of ever having sold a 757 + word or word + 757 domain (the one exception being game757.com for $253 in 2017).

It's encouraging for those investing in these names to see that some businesses are branding themselves using 757; however also discouraging to see that the names in question were likely all hand registered. Here are some samples:

• crossfit757.com
• 757makerspace.com
• 757battleofthebeers.com
• auction757.com
• 757dance.com
• acroyoga757.com

Interesting that of the six businesses on my first ten Google pages, three of them are fitness related!

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Actually...because I was personally involved in the rebranding process from "Hampton Roads" to "757" I have more than a few legs up on the "average" domainer. Take for example, the former Bank Of Hampton Roads who was recently bought out would luv to have the name Bank757.com or 757Bank.com to rebrand to. I'll be targeting financial institutions like these rather than them looking to find me. Mortgage757.com is another name I own that may be of interest to the dozens of mortgage companies in my area. Interesting too, I own 757Fitness.com, but not Fitness757.

Finally, I agree with Bob when he says, unless you're local and know the area/region, you shouldn't invest in Geo domains.

ThatNameGuy said:

Actually...because I was personally involved in the rebranding process from "Hampton Roads" to "757" I have more than a few legs up on the "average" domainer. Take for example, the former Bank Of Hampton Roads who was recently bought out would luv to have the name Bank757.com or 757Bank.com to rebrand to. I'll be targeting financial institutions like these rather than them looking to find me. Mortgage757.com is another name I own that may be of interest to the dozens of mortgage companies in my area. Interesting too, I own 757Fitness.com, but not Fitness757.

Finally, I agree with Bob when he says, unless you're local and know the area/region, you shouldn't invest in Geo domains.

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Sounds good, Rich. Hope you'll keep us updated on the progress of your 757 name sales.

Joe Nichols said:

Sounds good, Rich. Hope you'll keep us updated on the progress of your 757 name sales.

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What in the world makes you think I'll update you on the progress of my 757 sales? Regardless of how many times you ask, it will NEVER happen.

ThatNameGuy said:

What in the world makes you think I'll update you on the progress of my 757 sales? Regardless of how many times you ask, it will NEVER happen.

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Generally we share sales to help the community and learn from one another. Generating creative ideas for niches makes for interesting discussion, but ultimately most members are here to learn how to sell names for profit.

But no worries! Onward and upward. I hope the 757 collection works out for you.

Joe Nichols said:

Generally we share sales to help the community and learn from one another. Generating creative ideas for niches makes for interesting discussion, but ultimately most members are here to learn how to sell names for profit.

But no worries! Onward and upward. I hope the 757 collection works out for you.

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It already has

ThatNameGuy said:

It already has

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That's great, man. I know you're not into sharing figures, but can you share any info on how the names were sold? Or what niche the names were in?

Joe Nichols said:

That's great, man. I know you're not into sharing figures, but can you share any info on how the names were sold? Or what niche the names were in?

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You and Brad are way too funny

Can some experienced people put some price on these domains. Everyone can put their own price. It will help everyone get a ballpark idea of these and other domains related to these extensions.

757 .com ?
757 .net ?
757 .org ?
757 .co ?
757 .io ?

VaibhavA said:

Can some experienced people put some price on these domains. Everyone can put their own price. It will help everyone get a ballpark idea of these and other domains related to these extensions.

757 .com ?
757 .net ?
757 .org ?
757 .co ?
757 .io ?

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I'll give it a shot, but it may take me a few days and I'll PM you. I own a few domains like Welcome757, Tour757 and Vacation757 that should be worth a lot to the right buyer. What's "a lot"? I have to give that a little more thought