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Many of you like Rob Monster because the information that he posted. But many did not realize that he SPAMS the forums whenever he has a chance.
- Spamming/Promoting his company everywhere
- He also hired a team here and tell them to spam the forums also.
Too much is too much and this needed to be stopped.
- OP asked about Godaddy who is privacy. He inserted an Epik link
https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...rom-godaddy-to-namesilo.1166442/#post-7531080
And many more:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/what-will-happen-to-our-domains-when-we-die.1167187/#post-7530982

He even inserted a link from Webhostingtalk.com which considers Namepros competitor.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/is...like-in-the-digital-age.1167212/#post-7530874

I don't hate the guy. It's just spamming too much or he may have some mental problems?



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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
I personally don't mind if Rob promotes Epik in his posts, I think it's his job to do so. I also don't think it's "spammy", in fact it's how I get to try Epik. Now, I'm slowly transferring my names there. I like that he's active, it's not common to see a CEO of a registrar communicates with clients this often. Last month, I opened a live chat with their support to ask about an issue and Rob joined in just to say hi. I'm not sure if he does this randomly or if he knows that I'm an NP member.

I still like Namesilo and Dynadot but as of this moment, Epik stands out to me.

If I get a dull moment, I still take calls and chats.

If the help desk gets too backed up, the @epik support team will sometimes ask me to help with calls and chats.

Either way, I don't view it as drudgery. It is just a feature of the job. I call it "walking the factory floor".
 
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but you do understand that exactly that is the purpose of a SAPM?

For me, a spam is a random ad/promotion that has nothing to do with me or that I have no interest with. His posts connect with me. And as I've said, it's the reason why I have names there now. But I understand it's subjective, that's why I started with "I personally".
 
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Whatever, Rob didn´t start this thread. Or did they forget to add the EPIK staff badge to the OP´s ID?

Is there a "Popular this year" ranking?
If it is a "popular this year" ranking, it may take a long time to award it because this FORUM seems like it will recieve postings for a long long long time...(y)
 
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Is there a rule here for avatar? Grown up and stop acting like a kid.
Actually, I'd recommend you start using the default avatar!
 
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If it is a "popular this year" ranking, it may take a long time to award it because this FORUM seems like it will recieve postings for a long long long time...
We need the thread of the century ranking then.

But if you watched in this forum where reservations against Rob Monster started, and I dont want to repeat these issues so near before Christmas, and where they are now - self-promotion, spam, mental health, last name - then there are not many more possibilities to continue public criticism. What will they find? Russian doping? #MeToo? ...?

Nobody is perfect and so isn´t Rob.
I watched the old Domainsherpa video linked a few posts above and what I saw (not in full length) is what I read here. Rob answered more than the Moderator asked, I assume his brain produced that much and he generally is open-minded. He didn´t try to be nice or funny or anything else to gain sympathy, just talked facts and his (asked) success. So when he posts here he sometimes tells us a bit more than needed, it seems to be his personality.

And I am not Epik staff. But I hate unfairness. And like many contributors before posted: Please, dear managers of other registrars and service providers, spam us!
 
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Hmm, once again everyone on Namepros is discussing certain person and his business like there is no tomorrow ... dozens of people are seriously discussing whether "Rob is perfect" or "Rob is not perfect".

What to say : It' popcorn time , and sweet lemonade is streaming like a river all over the forum :) :)
 
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I think people need to take it easy with all these damn rules, this is an informal domainer forum, the goal here for all is to create some success in this space.

I don't see many CEO's coming on here, and taking your questions, or dealing with issues.

I have tried a lot of exchanges, usually they have one aspect which is really good, and another which is not so good. Most of have sales options that are limited, or slow to payout, or high commission, you have killed all 3 of those issues at Epik from what I have seen.

There was a time, when all the escrow companies started selling out to one, then intense verification came into place, and people were scrambling how to close deals. The good thing about domaining is people have many options, the bad thing is good inventory costs a lot of acquire in the aftermarket. You need good tools to close deals, monthly plans are going to be a must going into 2020, the new generation of buyers makes deals first, worry about paying second. I don't know to many exchanges that have such liberal payment plans, on lower level, or simplified basis. Even if the buyer defaults, who cares, you have a few payments, and the name back, all good.


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This thread; in 23 hours 6920 views, 207 replies
So who is the real winner... Namepros
 
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@johnn I thought you were done with NamePros why do you keep coming back?
 
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Rob has found a clever way to market Epik services in every thread he has touched. It borderlines the rules but doesn't break them. I personally find it annoying but people seem to enjoy the convo and namepros doesn't seem to care.

Speaking of clever, you will be, too, if you look at the awesome domains for sale in my signature and make an offer.

:xf.wink:
 
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So who is the real winner... Namepros

Why? Namepros is winner because "This thread; in 23 hours 6920 views, 207 replies"?

If that would be new traffic (not existing users, who are becoming new NP members) I would say perfect then...but maybe those are just existing members who are (instead of dealing with their own domain business) widely and in detail discussing again and again one member and his posts/threads on this forum? How do you know which one it is? :)
 
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Why? Namepros is winner because "This thread; in 23 hours 6920 views, 207 replies"?

If that would be new traffic (not existing users, who are becoming new NP members) I would say perfect then...but maybe those are just existing members who are (instead of dealing with their own domain business) widely and in detail discussing again and again one member and his posts/threads on this forum? How do you know which one it is? :)
Traffic, and content are key to website rankings, relevance, and ad revenue, another calculation for another day.
 
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Speaking of clever, you will be, too, if you look at the awesome domains for sale in my signature and make an offer.

:xf.wink:

Now that's smart advertising! :)
 
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Traffic, and content are key to website rankings, relevance, and ad revenue, another calculation for another day.

Which is why you should care about those "damn rules", because things can change.
 
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And to clarify, you get to BO domains for $8.49 instead of $199

Correct. @Gube had set it up for me via namePros DM.

As I hadn't had much success (on a small scale) with Epik backorders, and having noted beating myself via a cheaper backordering service multiple times, my expectations for epik backorders weren't very high prior to this thread.

Today, a new day, I've learned that epik backorders have priority for epik expired domains at day 16? I really don't think that's fair for the registrant. If the grace renewal policy placed the registrants ownership before the registrars ownership and instituted a more fair policy such as 30 days, then an epik backorder would win out the domain at day 31? That seems more fair.

Last night, to test epik backorders I placed two .com backorders at epik for $8.49 each and backordered the same domains at a noted cheaper competitor that has previously beat my epik backorders. I was so tired that I forgot I had placed the backorders last night, and was surprised to see the success emails this afternoon.

To said surprise, Epik beat the competitor 2/2 today.

To confirm that the domains were registered before making it to the public, I used expireddomains.net timestamps to compare against the WHOIS creation timestamp.

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WHOIS Creation Date: 2019-12-09T19:44:41Z

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WHOIS Creation Date: 2019-12-09T19:44:11Z

I'm not sure if these domains happened to drop at the exact same minute (19:44) or if they were available to reg at 19:43 or earlier. Nonetheless, they appear to have been registered 30 seconds apart.

I mention this in case there is room for improvement within epiks backordering service. This is not to say I'm not grateful for the acquisition, or that I wish epik had registered it earlier, this is simply technical feedback.

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I imagine @Gube or another epik employee could help extend my defualt grace renewal time via a similar DM request. And while I haven't completely ruled that out, I'm still of strong opinion that a 15 day grace renewal time (doesn't put the registrant first and should be 30 days for all not just some) hinders ones ability to shoot the moon, and furthermore may seem deceiving to those unknowingly blindsided (to the point where they may feel a theft has occurred) by this policy as it's below industry (GoDaddy / Dynadot / Namesilo / + more) standard.
 
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Traffic, and content are key to website rankings, relevance, and ad revenue, another calculation for another day.
Yes, I agree with your statement.

Traffic is important. But how do you know that this thread is generating new traffic (new users), and it is not only existing traffic (existing users) which would be re-distributed to another threads, if this thread was non-existent? I am just asking, I am not expert in this but I am curious.

Or did you mean that by simply creating more content on Namepros, this traffic will increase in future?
 
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John thedomains was never involved in any of this kind of nonsense.
Yep, Raymond. These theories about Namepros being bought seem to pop up from time to time. :) It will probably be Google or Microsoft that will be supposed to be buying it next.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Well, it was nice to procrastinate in this cozy thread a little, but I must "unwatch" it now even as it is lot of fun... I just finished my popcorn, and further being here is not going to pay my holidays or enlarge my horisons, it seems :) GL to everyone, and let me ad ... it was EPIC!
 
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Hello,

This topic has been discussed previously:
Here was our response:
Hello,

Fortunately, we are aware of the promotional issue, and we have been working on it. We do not treat Rob any differently than other enthusiastic members who have come to NamePros over the years and created large influxes of content that sometimes violates the rules.

We are in communication with Rob about this and working with him (just like we do all other members that have done this in the past, including you Frank) to help him learn the rules and post within the expectations of the community. He is making strides to improve. However, please use the Report link on any posts that you see where a rule has been violated, and we will take the appropriate actions. Your reports will help contribute to his learning of what is considered acceptable use at NamePros.

We appreciate your help.

As for the secondary discussions and feedback regarding Epik that took place in this thread, please move those topics to the Reviews section if you'd like to continue them.

Ideally, we would like to move the secondary discussions from this thread to their own threads, but unfortunately, that would take an unreasonable amount of time. In the future, please create a new thread for separate topics, and if you really want it to appear in a thread that has a different topic, then link to it within that thread rather than discussing it in that thread.

Notice: This thread will be closed soon since it is a duplicate, so if anyone has anything final they'd like to add to it (or edits to make) before it is closed, do so soon.



namepros doesn't seem to care.
We care. We are being diligent. Some solutions are easier to find than others.

I would like to know what NamePros definition of "staff" actually is when it comes to a badge.

I would say it really needs to be an employee that draws a paycheck (above minimum wage).

I am not sure contractors or people who have some other sort of compensation arrangement are really "staff".
This is mostly at the companies' discretion. However, we only offer the badges to well-known companies in the industry (e.g., used by or known by a significant portion of the professional community).

As a result, we trust them to make responsible decisions about who they grant permission to represent their company.

Interestingly, we have a lot of evidence that there are hundreds of employees of these top companies on NamePros without staff badges. There are reasonable reasons for that, such as the employee not using their NamePros account for company-related purposes or not wanting to be sent company-related support requests, especially if that's not their department at the company.

The purpose of the program is to enable companies to provide their audience with transparency and the most accurate, authoritative, and engaging information. Most importantly, it helps to prevent false representations (e.g., impersonation) because company representatives with a verified badge have prevailing authority and legitimacy. Learn more.

No, I just wanted clarity on what "staff" meant as Epik appears to have a disproportionate amount in comparison to other much larger companies.
Epik has recently been more proactive about keeping the badges up-to-date than most other companies.

Epik is also hiring NamePros members, which is contributing to that.

Should come in and say what's allowed and what's not and these threads should be done with. Someone posted a thread like this last week and the mods closed it pretty quick, curious as to why this one is allowed open.
Priorities. Some times are less busy than others. We are very busy and threads like this are low on our priority list. Once we're done fighting off blatant spambots and fraudsters to try to keep the community safe, and other higher priority matters such as keeping the website accessible/online despite attackers, then we may handle things like this thread if we have time.

how many violations can accrue for any member, before NP takes next level action?
This is an excellent question and really should be in its own thread so more attention could be dedicated to it. However, the short answer is that is varies based on the situation and the automated system. The latter is often being tweaked and altered to try to improve it.

if I promote my names for sale in other members discussion threads, and keep doing it no matter how many times mods warn me, then how long can I do it, before I get infracted?

if I get infracted, then how many infractions can I accumulate, before I get banned?
Infractions are very common when we receive reports and determine that a rule violation has occurred. This is important for our internal record keeping. Once enough infraction points accumulate in a short period of time (because they expire), the member's account is automatically closed.

If we decide that a member is unwilling or incapable of following the rules, such as in your example, then we will restrict their account in a way that will prevent them from being able to violate the rule(s) again. This typically happens before their account is closed and alleviates the need for it to be closed.

We hope that helps.
 
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HeHeHe

I just laughed my assets off that Rob was able to insert some good Epik links even in this topic :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:

Personally I think he is an asset to namepros and I wish there was more participation from some of the boys at other big services. I would be willing to put up with a few more self promoting links anyday in exchange for conversing with these guys.
 
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I think people need to take it easy with all these damn rules, this is an informal domainer forum, the goal here for all is to create some success in this space.

I don't see many CEO's coming on here, and taking your questions, or dealing with issues.

I have tried a lot of exchanges, usually they have one aspect which is really good, and another which is not so good. Most of have sales options that are limited, or slow to payout, or high commission, you have killed all 3 of those issues at Epik from what I have seen.

There was a time, when all the escrow companies started selling out to one, then intense verification came into place, and people were scrambling how to close deals. The good thing about domaining is people have many options, the bad thing is good inventory costs a lot of acquire in the aftermarket. You need good tools to close deals, monthly plans are going to be a must going into 2020, the new generation of buyers makes deals first, worry about paying second. I don't know to many exchanges that have such liberal payment plans, on lower level, or simplified basis. Even if the buyer defaults, who cares, you have a few payments, and the name back, all good.



So who is the real winner... Namepros

My favorite response to the topic (y) (y) (y)
 
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