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Hi everyone,

I'm having a hard time deciding which sales lander to use for my domains.

From the 3 landers below which one do you think performs best and why?

Thanks :)

DAN

i.imgur.com/tvxG7C5.png

Afternic/GoDaddy

i.imgur.com/Dk6zigf.png

Epik

i.imgur.com/ceEX9pp.png
 
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if you have 3 domains, park each in 3 platform and watch the traffic, leads and sales conversion.

don't forgot to update the results in this thread :xf.wink:(y)
 
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@GoldenApple can you please edit the post to include a href links to your pictures.
 
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It's not allowing me to edit the post. Can a mod please insert the images in the thread. Thanks.
 
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Hi everyone,

I'm having a hard time deciding which sales lander to use for my domains.

From the 3 landers below which one do you think performs best and why?

Thanks :)

DAN

i.imgur.com/tvxG7C5.png

Afternic/GoDaddy

i.imgur.com/Dk6zigf.png

Epik

i.imgur.com/ceEX9pp.png

I'm not a forum mod, but now there are href links (might have to expand the quote above to see them), along with the images, in the same order as they were originally listed:

DAN
tvxG7C5.png


Afternic/GoDaddy
Dk6zigf.png



Epik
ceEX9pp.png
 
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(y) I think the Epik looks the best for make offer. Better looking than the Dan make offer. I’m going to try some parking with Epik rather than Dan.

Afternic / godaddy is a whole different beast. Do you want to do the sales or have them do it? Doesn’t look good but it’s not a beauty contest. If the user is outside the US, do they get a different number? Afternic negotiated a good deal for me, so I would favor their services over other brokers.

I actually haven’t tried any of these options as of yet so can’t give much practical advice.
 
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watch the traffic
Your traffic will not vary no matter what style of landing pages you use or where you park the domains.

I'd just use my own landing pages, park them on my own website, and use escrow.com rather than pay large percentages to anyone just for...what? An html design? If you really want to go all the way with BIN checkout, implement escrow.com (platform API) checkout for BIN on your own landing pages.

And then list all your domains in every non-exclusive marketplace, as well.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/tw...registry-undeveloped-dan-marketplace.1141640/
 
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At Epik you can to upload your own images for each domain. Epik is the favorite now.
 
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So uploaded images will sell your domains?!
VIP indeed!

You can upload a personalized image in accordance with a theme of each domain, this gives the attractiveness and thematic meaning of a domain on your landing page.
 
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So uploaded images will sell your domains?!
VIP indeed!
it can help in impulse buy.. but yeah I agree that it is not essential factor for selling domains!
 
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Just to bounce on the Epik lander subject
You also can set a custom description right under the make an offer/bin boxes at the top
This is a great place to write some facts on the domain, why buying this particular name will profit the customer's business, and anything else.. plus it will help to rank it better in search results

And at the bottom, you also can hide some parts of the lander as you like :
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Gube
 
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The question is which platform has better conversion rate? You can't find easy answer to this question because Dan do not publish their sales, I am not sure if Epik do publish sales completed on their platform.

I am using Dan personally for all my landing pages, what I noticed is that Sedo is doing better for me although I am not parking my domains there!

Can someone tell us about his own experience?
Which platform has better conversion rate for you?
 
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The only true measure of any landing page is the conversion rate, sell-through rate and volume of sales in general. Show me the sales dynamic, and I will show you the best landing page. Any discussion not reflecting this is bunkum.
 
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I think I would say that any of these three, or in fact others, can work absolutely fine. As @xynames says the visits to your site via people typing in the name does not depend on lander (some argue that one can somewhat get some landers search recognized but I think that is probably very rare to a significant degree).
Your traffic will not vary no matter what style of landing pages you use

So the important question is not visits but do some help better with conversion. I think it is probably true, as xynames has said, that well experienced investors with large quality portfolios may be able to close at least as well, perhaps much better, on their own landers at reduced commission costs.

But if one is relatively new, or do not want the hassle of running a website and handling your own interactions, then one of the marketplace landers can be a good choice. I suspect for most newcomers with small portfolios it is the right choice. Here are my thoughts on the ones you mention....
  • Afternic/GoDaddy stress talking or emailing a broker. They have 24hr coverage, someone to answer the phone, and probably help close a lot of sales through that expertise that an inexperienced investor without marketing skills might lose. I personally hate not being given the price when I am buying something, so wonder at their strategy of requiring an interaction just to get a price, but clearly they are big and smart and have evidence to support that approach. Other than the absence of a price, the lander looks fine to me, and the GoDaddy badge helps obviously.
  • DAN. To me their landers while possibly slightly bland to some do engender trust. They just to me look professional and elegant. They also allow you to easily add descriptions for each domain name if you like. They have payment plans for names valued $495 and up as well as a rental option. I think those help close some sales. DAN landers are super easy to set up and protect us from making bad lander design choices.
  • Epik I love the visual look of their landers, whether you use their images or add your own. You can cleanly offer Buy-It-Now, Make Offer, and start a Payment Plan. I also love that their landers are in fact tiny websites and you can add lots of text if you want, images, links, etc. It can be argued that you can get some names to search rank. Probably to a slight degree - I have a few that I see are Alexa 5M but none that I know of Alexa 1M. A Google search with my term plus word domain name will show some DAN listings on page one so not sure the difference is that much. The Epik ones, when you do get an inquiry, provide you with name, email, phone as well as IP address, whereas DAN provide you essentially with just initials and the offer information.
In addition to the ones you mention, there are other choices which I think should be considered.
  • NoDynadot Not as much choice in design (3 essentially) but their landers are not bad and when sales do happen their commissions are very reasonable. I think there is an additional fee for withdrawing funds (might be wrong - the few small sales I did there I just used money to register or renew domains). You can without cost (other than sales commission) start an auction or do a fixed price sale.
  • NameSilo Not many people talk about their landers, but I love the look (I use number 3, but they have five choices). To me they are elegant. Good commission rate. They allow you to offer payment plans.
  • Sedo You now have choices with just landers or with parking. They are of course a major long-term aftermarket, like Afternic. Their landers allow you to show the price directly. They too have a series of agents. A wide variety of images for the traditional landers, or clean simplistic in the new ones.
  • Efty So you need a membership past the trial period, and you will handle your own negotiations, but not otherwise pay commissions except those associated with the payment/escrow. They offer tons of choices in customization of landers. If you plan to never have your own website their marketplace feature (you use one of your domain names, or now a subdomain) to set up what is essentially your domain portfolio website without any programming or website development.
Note that you can also make other listings effectively landers. I sometimes set the forwarding to point to my Namecheap Marketplace listings so they essentially become landers.

I think with respect to landers we are fortunate to have many excellent choices. Thanks for the question and thread, @GoldenApple and best wishes for domain success.

Bob
 
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epik and dynadot have excellent landers.
 
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zero offers through afternic offer page with ns3 ns4. just waste your traffic without knowing leads. 👎

dan - banned on twitter can not twit any domain with dan ns.


epik i like it - example https://www.the-jewellery.com

namesilo i like it example http://www.who-s.com/
 
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Just to bounce on the Epik lander subject
You also can set a custom description right under the make an offer/bin boxes at the top
This is a great place to write some facts on the domain, why buying this particular name will profit the customer's business, and anything else.. plus it will help to rank it better in search results

And at the bottom, you also can hide some parts of the lander as you like :
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Gube
hi, can i upload my own background on the offer page?
thanks.
 
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There's a way to implement a custom image in DAN.com landers, although the method may not be as robust as Epik's. As of this writing, it's geared more toward advertising a brand (and including a logo along with the domain). There doesn't appear to be much in the way of customization--a single template/theme exists (you can select one of three colors), and it looks like a business card.
 
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ToughDomains has functionality to add custom images and backgrounds to your landers, as well. You get a bit more flexibility in that area than with DAN.
 
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All above is nice discussion but IMO the only thing that does matter is conversion rate, which platform has more success in converting page visits to sales?

In SEO there is something called conversion optimization, you may have best looking sale page in the world that does not convert, and you may find an ugly but effecient landing page that does the job and convert more sales. sometimes small details like buy button placement, color and text font can affect conversion rates.

Other factors that can affect conversion rate are company reputation, trust factor, payment methods.. and other factors.

There has never been comparison study that compares between main parking platforms based on domain sales conversion rate.. we need this info which I believe is a missing peace in the puzzle.
 
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i was just going to post a request to list some covid names on our marketplace. We had some recent requests. specifically names in lawyer attached
 
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Hello, does anyone have their Epik landers set at Buy Now? If so can I see an example please :)
 
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I've tested all variations extensively across hundreds of thousands of domain names, and have found that in tangent with Epik landers, listing names at Make Offer with no minimum is by far the best solution for most portfolio owners. The reality is the less resistance and funnels you have for reaching prospects, the more opportunities you can seed in both the short and long term. You can never predict when a $100 offer becomes a six figure sale either, as it is human nature to start low and want to negotiate. The more leads you generate, the wider the net for discovery and relationship development that can lead to unexpected unicorn sales. The best practice for me personally is one that adapts pricing for unique names based on the customer, sharing names at lower prices to plant mustard seeds with great ideas, and helping larger organizations get fair value while still ensuring opportunities for larger payouts are always present.

BIN Example:
www.autocharged.com

Make Offer Example:
www.ninja.com

Lease Example (Great for Real Estate):
www.coronadelmarhomes.com

For those unaware, Epik now has a division that creates SSL landers for any of our customers with investment portfolios that want it. Whether that be 500 names or 25k. This means we take the time to not only create individual SSL-driven website landers, but we seed each one with keywords from the root URL in the title, description, and meta positions. Our service team has the staffing and resources to use tools internally to build out complete portfolios within a matter of a day or two, and then customize them with great images and added keyword relativity to refine lead stimulation. It is the single smartest path I believe a domain investor can take, plus our sales team is world class and multilingual to help pull down big deals when needed. If you routinely buy and sell domain names, we are happy to personally assist with building out all your landing pages to ensure 2021 offers maximum lead generation advantages. Depending on the theme of your root URLs, some incredible things can happen when they are indexed appropriately so that individuals already with a vested interest in the subject come across them. The long-tail keyword strings are limitless and unpredictable.

From my own experience (multiple personal closes even last week and team has a high number of 6 to 7 figure closes already for 2021), Epik's landers drive 3x to 5x more leads than other solutions I've experimented with. That is before factoring in access to their sales team for negotiations, built-in escrow services, being able to tap into the crypto experience for parallel economies, and Rob's experience in shooting for the moon post real discovery and research for buyers. There are few companies where domain owners can ask a CEO to help close a life-changing deal.

Whether you are at Epik or not, normally within 24-48 hours we can have the most aggressive campaigns with standalone sites for indexing and related themes setup, then help to navigate more sales and refinement to match your strategies. Lots of fun, and if you want an assessment of what is possible, just email portfolios to [email protected] and ask for a priority assessment. We are always very happy to help anyone in our path.

Have a great day dreaming, domaining and make a difference! Happy #InternationalWomensDay.

RD
 
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I've tested all variations extensively across hundreds of thousands of domain names, and have found that in tangent with Epik landers, listing names at Make Offer with no minimum is by far the best solution for most portfolio owners. The reality is the less resistance and funnels you have for reaching prospects, the more opportunities you can seed in both the short and long term. You can never predict when a $100 offer becomes a six figure sale either, as it is human nature to start low and want to negotiate. The more leads you generate, the wider the net for discovery and relationship development that can lead to unexpected unicorn sales. The best practice for me personally is one that adapts pricing for unique names based on the customer, sharing names at lower prices to plant mustard seeds with great ideas, and helping larger organizations get fair value while still ensuring opportunities for larger payouts are always present.

BIN Example:
www.autocharged.com

Make Offer Example:
www.ninja.com

Lease Example (Great for Real Estate):
www.coronadelmarhomes.com

For those unaware, Epik now has a division that creates SSL landers for any of our customers with investment portfolios that want it. Whether that be 500 names or 25k. This means we take the time to not only create individual SSL-driven website landers, but we seed each one with keywords from the root URL in the title, description, and meta positions. Our service team has the staffing and resources to use tools internally to build out complete portfolios within a matter of a day or two, and then customize them with great images and added keyword relativity to refine lead stimulation. It is the single smartest path I believe a domain investor can take, plus our sales team is world class and multilingual to help pull down big deals when needed. If you routinely buy and sell domain names, we are happy to personally assist with building out all your landing pages to ensure 2021 offers maximum lead generation advantages. Depending on the theme of your root URLs, some incredible things can happen when they are indexed appropriately so that individuals already with a vested interest in the subject come across them. The long-tail keyword strings are limitless and unpredictable.

From my own experience (multiple personal closes even last week and team has a high number of 6 to 7 figure closes already for 2021), Epik's landers drive 3x to 5x more leads than other solutions I've experimented with. That is before factoring in access to their sales team for negotiations, built-in escrow services, being able to tap into the crypto experience for parallel economies, and Rob's experience in shooting for the moon post real discovery and research for buyers. There are few companies where domain owners can ask a CEO to help close a life-changing deal.

Whether you are at Epik or not, normally within 24-48 hours we can have the most aggressive campaigns with standalone sites for indexing and related themes setup, then help to navigate more sales and refinement to match your strategies. Lots of fun, and if you want an assessment of what is possible, just email portfolios to [email protected] and ask for a priority assessment. We are always very happy to help anyone in our path.

Have a great day dreaming, domaining and make a difference! Happy #InternationalWomensDay.

RD
Wow! That you for your response. This all sounds awesome!
 
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