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AVOID GoDaddy hosting company they will shut down all your sites if even one Trademark claim is made

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I am helping a client with this right now. The below is posted publicly with his consent because he wants the world to know what kind of hosting company and registrar GoDaddy is.

• Client has about thirty websites hosted on GoDaddy's "Ultimate" shared server plan, PREPAID FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS

• Client has been with GoDaddy FIFTEEN YEARS never had any problems

• About a week ago, client received an email from GoDaddy [email protected] stating that there had been a Trademark Infringement claim made on just ONE website of his, the contents of which had been hosted unchanged for TWO AND HALF YEARS with no prior complaint - and that "we have suspended this hosting account" and that they had "terminate[d] your use of our hosting services for this website."

• Client contacted GoDaddy by phone, everyone he called told him that if he emailed back [email protected] and simply stated that he would disable the content on that ONE website, which he did by changing the nameservers on that one domain to make the website just a parked page with no content, that the hosting would be reinstated.

• The guy at [email protected]
D Preston
Trademark & Copyright Claims Manager
Go Daddy Operating Company, LLC
wrote back to my client and said that not only would he not reinstate the hosting, even if client disabled the content on the one website, but that also he would not allow the client access to any of his data or databases on the hosting account.

GoDaddy claims that client is required by the "hosting agreement to maintain a full backup of your files at all times. You can review the entire agreement here: http://www.godaddy.com/agreements/showdoc.aspx?pageid=HOSTING_SA
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but this applies to cases to "(1) prevent any loss or damage to your website or server content" --- it does not apply to situations where GoDaddy simply shuts down the hosting! In other words, a GoDaddy client may be responsible for outside issues that result in data damage or loss, but there has been no loss or damage to the website or server content, the data is all there, GoDaddy is simply preventing client from accessing it. Additionally, GoDaddy may not CREATE the data loss and then hold the client responsible for not backing it up!

Client in fact does have backups of most of the html / css / php type data on his websites, but does not have backups of the blogs and forums he had created on some of the websites. Imagine for example losing the namepros forum database, such that all you had left was the bare html content of the website and not the forum itself. Or losing a blog.

Client is not even asking for the data from the one website where the alleged trademark infringement occurred, he is asking for the data from the other thirty some websites that are not the subject of any complaint. The data “lost” is not the data that is the subject of this trademark claim.

• Client, at my direction, then made a Counter Notice pursuant to GoDaddy's policies here
https://www.godaddy.com/agreements/showdoc?pageid=TRADMARK_COPY
which state that
"1. Counter Notification. If you have received a notice of copyright or trademark infringement that you wish to challenge based on a a good faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled, you may provide Counter Notification by emailing [email protected] or [email protected]



“Upon receipt of a Counter Notification as described in Section 1 above, GoDaddy shall promptly provide the Complaining Party with a copy of the Counter Notification, and inform such Party that it will replace the removed material or cease disabling access to it in ten (10) business days. GoDaddy will replace the removed material and cease disabling access to it in not less than ten (10), nor more than fourteen (14), business days following receipt of the Counter Notification, unless GoDaddy first receives notice from the Complaining Party that such Complaining Party has filed an action seeking a court order to restrain the alleged infringer from engaging in infringing activity relating to the material on GoDaddy's system or network.”

but GoDaddy refused to pass along the Counter Notice to the party that had made the Trademark Infringement claim.

• Client UNlocked about a dozen of his domains and tried to move them out of GoDaddy, but because the authorization codes are being sent the cPanel email accounts that are suspended, he cannot receive the authorization codes and cannot move the domains out of GoDaddy.

At my direction, client has made an ICANN complaint that GoDaddy is not allowing him to transfer his domains out.

• GoDaddy continues to refuse to allow the client access to any of his data or databases on the websites, refuses to reinstate his hosting, refused to give him access to the cPanel email addresses to receive the authorization codes to move out domains, and so far has even refused to refund him the money that he prepaid for the next five years for the hosting plan.
 
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The nonsense continues. GoDaddy issued store credit for the unused portion of the hosting and email accounts (three additional years prepaid) - the deal was for a REFUND - client paid cash he should get cash back.

Like he’d ever want to do business with GoDaddy again? And what good is store credit when he’s been suspended from hosting at GoDaddy and has been fighting to transfer his domains away from GoDaddy?

Granting store credit is illusory consideration for the settlement - like Disneyland dollars for someone who has been banned from Disneyland. What a JOKE of a company this GoDaddy is.

The fight continues for a cash refund, and the return of the data.
 
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*Update*

Managed to convince GoDaddy to refund the prepaid portion of the hosting / business email. Also after further protest, GD backed down from the absurd offer of "store credit" but then refunded directly to the original form of payment, which apparently was years ago on credit card accounts that from what I understand have long since been either closed or the account numbers changed.

To client's surprise, so far he has received three checks from one of his old credit card companies obviously for refunds that came in from GoDaddy.

What is frustrating is that there is no clear statement from GD as to exactly HOW MUCH will be refunded, or to exactly what credit card etc. the refunds were sent. The person pulling the strings at GD is hiding behind a curtain of email contact only, and only via a general email address to the "Office of the CEO" of GD. Obviously doesn't want to deal with irate customers screaming at him, we can't be the only ones.

Still nothing but stony silence as far as getting back any of the blog / forum data from GoDaddy. At some point obviously they are going to claim that it has been deleted. Well, at least all websites are back up and running (including the one that was the subject of the TM claim :xf.laugh:), and the blogs and forums are slowly being rebuilt with help from waybackmachine archives.

Moral of the story: Avoid GoDaddy at all costs!
 
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*Update*

Managed to convince GoDaddy to refund the prepaid portion of the hosting / business email. Also after further protest, GD backed down from the absurd offer of "store credit" but then refunded directly to the original form of payment, which apparently was years ago on credit card accounts that from what I understand have long since been either closed or the account numbers changed.

To client's surprise, so far he has received three checks from one of his old credit card companies obviously for refunds that came in from GoDaddy.

What is frustrating is that there is no clear statement from GD as to exactly HOW MUCH will be refunded, or to exactly what credit card etc. the refunds were sent. The person pulling the strings at GD is hiding behind a curtain of email contact only, and only via a general email address to the "Office of the CEO" of GD. Obviously doesn't want to deal with irate customers screaming at him, we can't be the only ones.

Still nothing but stony silence as far as getting back any of the blog / forum data from GoDaddy. At some point obviously they are going to claim that it has been deleted. Well, at least all websites are back up and running (including the one that was the subject of the TM claim :xf.laugh:), and the blogs and forums are slowly being rebuilt with help from waybackmachine archives.

Moral of the story: Avoid GoDaddy at all costs!
Any update?
 
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Update is that they refunded most of the money client had prepaid for the hosting but one portion they claim that they issued a GoDaddy check but client never received.

As far as the data GD still refuses to turn any of it over to client and client lost all his WordPress blogs and forums. Client is considering arbitration after making some attorney general and other outside agency complaints against GoDaddy.
 
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I am dealing with a situation with Godaddy right now where a domain was removed from my account, privacy cancelled, domain moved into their repossessed department without any notification, or due cause.

I purchased the domain about 4 months ago from undeveloped. Domain was pushed, and it sat in my account simply parked on a lander without any ppc links. I could have easily moved it out prior to another register where they could not have had any access to it. The issue seems to be with the previous owner, and owing them money, even though I now own it, they felt their over reach to go into my account, to resolve another parties debt was unwarranted. They are now asking for about $3xx for the domain back, and are unable to give any information on why, what, or when the issue is with it. Simply that I pay this amount if I want it back.

This is disgraceful behavior. Can this even be legal? Do their terms explicitly state that domains carry any outstanding debts with them upon transferal to new owners?
 
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Yet at least the small companies like Epik and NameSilo are responsive and have interest in our business.

At Epik we are very responsive and believe in following due process. We call ourselves the Swiss Bank of Domains because we duplicate what the private banking system in Switzerland does: when we receive a serious complaint (TM or not) we consult with our client first before moving forward. No one likes being thrown under a bus and we understand that. While we've received some backlash with recent events, our customers are whats most important and we will go that extra mile to help out.

It pained me to read this thread because even I dispise circling the drain when I have an issue. Please know that Epik is truly epic. We provide legendary customer support and always answer the phone. Even our CEO answers the phone, not sure anyone else can say that. :xf.smile:
 
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thanks for the warning! (y)

Never use GoDaddy for your domain-names or for webhosting.
 
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Never use GoDaddy for your domain-names or for webhosting.

Seriously?

Because one person has a bad experience everyone should avoid godaddy?

I have hundreds of domains there and no issues whatsoever. If we called for everyone to avoid a registrar every time there is trouble with one account then there would be very few survivors.

If you really want to pick on a registrar pick on netsol, they are probably the worst I have ever seen but avoiding godaddy is not feasible for a domainer. At one point you will want to do business with godaddy auctions, afternic, or even huge domains which for me defaulted to my godaddy account when I bought a domain from them.

Avoiding godaddy completely??? If you are a domainer.... good luck with that.
 
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Seriously?

Because one person has a bad experience everyone should avoid godaddy?

I have hundreds of domains there and no issues whatsoever. If we called for everyone to avoid a registrar every time there is trouble with one account then there would be very few survivors.

If you really want to pick on a registrar pick on netsol, they are probably the worst I have ever seen but avoiding godaddy is not feasible for a domainer. At one point you will want to do business with godaddy auctions, afternic, or even huge domains which for me defaulted to my godaddy account when I bought a domain from them.

Avoiding godaddy completely??? If you are a domainer.... good luck with that.

In all fairness, I never had any issues using netsol. Slow yes. Issues, no.
 
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AVOID GoDaddy hosting company they will shut down all your sites if even one Trademark claim is made
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1740919

I wonder why this thread at WHT has been removed to restricted area, not accessible to regular members?

@xynames how did this case end, did GD provide data for remaining sites, is the site that was accused of infringement still operating at other registrar/hosting provider?
 
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Hosting is not mandatory to be blocked at GoDaddy due to any kind of abuse report on your domain.
 
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Exactly yes, hosting is not mandatory to be blocked across the board for ALL domains just because of an issue on one website. At worst, supposed to give the alleged offender the opportunity to remove the offending content, and also supposed to give the alleged offender the right to respond with a counter notice, neither of which opportunities GD gave in this case.
 
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@xynames how did this case end, did GD provide data for remaining sites, is the site that was accused of infringement still operating at other registrar/hosting provider?
No, GD never provided the data. They never gave a full refund either and claimed that one of the checks had been sent out but it was never received. Also, yes, the website in question was moved to a different host and remains up unmolested to this day, I just checked a few minutes ago it is still there.
 
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In this case GD refused to pass along the counter notice that the client had submitted. A counter notice is the legal right of the alleged infringer to respond to the claim.
 
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It can't be avoided completely...
But it is very possible to not keep valuable domains there, except you know GD staff personally.
 
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Agreed that the giants are inevitable. But storing valuable domains at GDaddy or using their hosting, sounds good in theory. Until you’re bitten by the GD snake!
 
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I wonder why this thread at WHT has been removed to restricted area, not accessible to regular members?

I had a few topics about registrars and namepros moves them to reviews to keep them out of sight. The topics there do not trend on the main board and therefore probably keeps the sponsors happy.

I know when I opened the epic topic it was the hottest one on the board and it never appeared on the popular list or on the top topic list. So even though it was not a review it was moved to that forum.

So namepros is doing what they have too, the topics tend to stay out of sight and I suppose they have to do that because would you sponsor a website where people were leaving negative reviews.
 
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No, GD never provided the data. They never gave a full refund either and claimed that one of the checks had been sent out but it was never received. Also, yes, the website in question was moved to a different host and remains up unmolested to this day, I just checked a few minutes ago it is still there.

You can use some tools to easily monitor your websites: uptimerobot.com is a nice one. Both free and paid options, alerts by email or you can hook something up to their API. No need to install stuff.
 
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@xynames, can you answer @MapleDots question?

You did leave out an important detail though....

How bad was the trademark infringement? Did it put godaddy as a company at risk?

It is somehow quite unbelievable that the company would become that defensive for just a standard trademark issue. Usually warnings or takedown notices are indicated before such drastic action is take.

I am curious if this is just a simple case of trademark infringement or a bigger problem such as selling of counterfeit products.

Also, I do not believe the length at which a content is published is relevant.

Also, it may be possible GoDaddy need to prevent the offending content to be taken down to offer opportunity of evidence collection.

To the rest of community: remember we are hearing one side of story. We don’t yet know the details necessary for us to make sound judgement.
 
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It obviously wasn't bad at all, in that the website was moved to a different host and remains up to this day, unmolested, over a year later!

In any case you don't shut down an entire hosting AND retain all the data AND not refund in full for the hosting that was prepaid because of an allegation on one website. Which additionally, in this case GD refused to pass along the Counter Notification that the client submitted, objecting to the trademark infringement claim. In this case GDiddy acted as judge, jury and executioner...without a trial.
 
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The nonsense continues. GoDaddy issued store credit for the unused portion of the hosting and email accounts (three additional years prepaid) - the deal was for a REFUND - client paid cash he should get cash back.

Like he’d ever want to do business with GoDaddy again? And what good is store credit when he’s been suspended from hosting at GoDaddy and has been fighting to transfer his domains away from GoDaddy?

Granting store credit is illusory consideration for the settlement - like Disneyland dollars for someone who has been banned from Disneyland. What a JOKE of a company this GoDaddy is.

The fight continues for a cash refund, and the return of the data.

thats why i like Paying month to month in case an issue arises!! best of luck man i been there!! (y)
 
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Someone messaged me this week that this had happened to him too recently at GoDaddy - hosting shut down after trademark claim made with no opportunity for redress. (In that case the person who emailed me says that he removed the alleged copyright infringing material from his website immediately, but still GoDaddy proceeded to shut down all his hosting and refuse to turn over his data files to him.)

As an update to this matter, as far as GoDaddy: GoDaddy refused to consider any kind of due process, refused to pass along a DMCA counter notice, refused to return any of the data from the hosting account to the client. All GoDaddy eventually did is refund most or maybe all (was hard to confirm exactly) of the prepaid in advance hosting fees that had not been used up. Also GoDaddy did allow the movement out of the account of all of the domains being held including the one in question with the TM claim. All this happened in 2018.

All of the websites for these domains (about a dozen domains) including the one for which a TM claim was made were moved to a new host in 2018/2019, and using a combination of what back up files were available and re-creating what was not available, the sites were put back up same as they were before.

This new host was not, as I recall, one of those listed as being "DMCA friendly" - that is, a host that ignores DMCA claims, but it is a host that is not in the United States.

Interestingly, in 2021, a trademark claim was made against one of these sites, NOT the same one as was made in 2018, at GoDaddy, a different site, on the basis of the domain name or contents, BUT the difference this time, was that after some email exchange back and forth, the new host recognized that they had to pass along a DMCA counter notification letter as defined in 17 USC 512(g)(3) and when the entity failed to respond, the hosting was reinstated and all sites were made live again (I understand that there was a period of a few weeks when the sites were down) and all sites continue unmolested today.

So the difference there is that a legitimate hosting company will pass along a counter notice and will follow the law and reinstate the hosting and the websites if the trademark violation claimant does not respond to the counter notice.
 
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At my direction, client has made an ICANN complaint that GoDaddy is not allowing him to transfer his domains out.

• GoDaddy continues to refuse to allow the client access to any of his data or databases on the websites, refuses to reinstate his hosting, refused to give him access to the cPanel email addresses to receive the authorization codes to move out domains, and so far has even refused to refund him the money that he prepaid for the next five years for the hosting plan.
Did godaddy at least offer a partial refund on the hosting?
 
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