The USA Political Thread

From the National Review:

To me, there’s little question such a call from the president — whether he was explicitly favor trading or not — is at the very least unethical and at most an abuse of power. Is it impeachable? That’s a political decision. Because, no matter how hard liberals try and convince you otherwise, the Trump presidency doesn’t operate in a vacuum. Republicans believe they’ve been living life under two sets of rules. Considering what previous administrations have gotten away with — and what many of the people now clamoring for impeachment helped them get away with — it’s difficult to blame them. Perhaps if Democrats and operatives within government hadn’t spent three years cooking up a fantastical Manchurian Candidate conspiracy to delegitimize Trump this impeachment inquiry might be playing out differently. As it stands now, the entire effort is drenched in partisanship. Which makes it extremely unlikely that many voters will be pried from their previously held positions. Nothing that’s been said during these hearings changes that fact.
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Rep. Adam Schiff managed to improve President Trump's approval among independent voters. If Sen Grahm wants to help the President, he will expose the shenanigans between Schiff, the whistleblower and LTC Vindman.

Never forget...

A new national survey finds independent voters leading a sharp swing in opposition to impeachment, the second major poll to produce those findings this week.

The latest national poll from Emerson College finds 45 percent oppose impeaching President Trump, against 43 percent who support it. That's a 6-point swing in support from October, when 48 percent of voters supported impeachment and only 44 percent opposed.

More importantly, the poll shows more independents now oppose impeachment than support it, a significant change from Emerson's polling in October. The new poll found 49 percent oppose impeachment compared to 34 percent who support it. In October, 48 percent of independents polled supported impeachment, against 39 percent who opposed.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...osition-to-impeachment-among-independents?amp

Thank you dummycrats for that live display of bull$hit that confirms Trumps reelection 2020!

I wonder what the next "bombshell" indictment of the President will be?

In other news... It's being reported the FBI falsified document for warrant request to spy on Carter Page.

SirDrago said:

A new national survey finds independent voters leading a sharp swing in opposition to impeachment, the second major poll to produce those findings this week.

The latest national poll from Emerson College finds 45 percent oppose impeaching President Trump, against 43 percent who support it. That's a 6-point swing in support from October, when 48 percent of voters supported impeachment and only 44 percent opposed.

More importantly, the poll shows more independents now oppose impeachment than support it, a significant change from Emerson's polling in October. The new poll found 49 percent oppose impeachment compared to 34 percent who support it. In October, 48 percent of independents polled supported impeachment, against 39 percent who opposed.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...osition-to-impeachment-among-independents?amp

Thank you dummycrats for that live display of bull$hit that confirms Trumps reelection 2020!

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yep, us independents oppose the Impeachment because we oppose any threat of a socialist over take.

mr-x said:

Never forget...

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I'm so glad you posted that video! I freakin love that video. When they show all the Dems, and then cut to Mitt Romney, I bust out laughing every single time I see it. Too funny! Thanks!!

mr-x said:

I wonder what the next "bombshell" indictment of the President will be?

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Emoluments Clause will be the next witch hunt. You can see the media starting to drop stories about Trumps hotels and Secret Service staying there. Unenlytend spews about that here all the time. "Look at the billionaire hotelier/real estate developer who donates his salary in full, and put his business interests in trust, trying to enrich himself by staying at his own properties on the governments dime, what a thief!"

Kentucky governor’s stay at Trump hotel could carry legal implications for president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...tel-could-carry-legal-implications-president/

Trio of stories point to Trump possibly profiting from presidency
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trio-stories-point-trump-possibly-profiting-presidency

DNWon said:

Emoluments Clause will be the next witch hunt. You can see the media starting to drop stories about Trumps hotels and Secret Service staying there. Unenlytend spews about that here all the time. "Look at the billionaire hotelier/real estate developer who donates his salary in full, and put his business interests in trust, trying to enrich himself by staying at his own properties on the governments dime, what a thief!"

Kentucky governor’s stay at Trump hotel could carry legal implications for president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...tel-could-carry-legal-implications-president/

Trio of stories point to Trump possibly profiting from presidency
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trio-stories-point-trump-possibly-profiting-presidency

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That's actually a real thing, even mr-x agreed with it earlier.

Trump probably won't be impeached, even tho the case is clear. Everybody is dug in. But this bodes well for Democrats come election time. Show the world how corrupt you are.

All this pardon stuff doesn't bode well for Trump either. Directly going against the military, some of these cases were fellow soldiers turning these guys in.

Election 2020 was the agenda to even pursue the Impeachment hearings. A good strategy for sure. I guess we will see if they hit paydirt come election time.

.X. said:

Election 2020 was the agenda to even pursue the Impeachment hearings. A good strategy for sure. I guess we will see if they hit paydirt come election time.

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It was because you're not supposed to engage a foreign power in election interference in exchange for aid. You're not supposed to let corruption go unchecked. Then this emoluments stuff is pretty blatant. We talked about this earlier, I'm not sure how he gets away with this. There should be a clear line. It's not like if Trump properties disappeared from the face of this Earth, world leaders couldn't get together anymore.

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Fiona Hill nails the Democrats' case
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/donald-trump-fiona-hill-impeachment-ukraine/index.html

Was wondering why #MoscowMarsha was trending - https://twitter.com/search?q=#MoscowMarsha&src=trend_click

because of:

@MarshaBlackburn

7h
Vindictive Vindman is the “whistleblower’s” handler.

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Shame on you! This man has served our country honorably for many years and you have the unmitigated gall to talk about him like he's a tool. The reality is that this tweet of yours shows who the tool here is.

omg - this is a Senator's official twitter account and this is an official statement? utterly shameful.

Dear Senator Blackburn. Free speech and personal opinions are important in a democracy. Witnesses testifying before Congress should be allowed to do so without fear of intimidation or redress. (The law). When you remember your oath feel free to tweet again.

JB Lions said:

It was because you're not supposed to engage a foreign power in election interference in exchange for aid. You're not supposed to let corruption go unchecked. Then this emoluments stuff is pretty blatant. We talked about this earlier, I'm not sure how he gets away with this. There should be a clear line. It's not like if Trump properties disappeared from the face of this Earth, world leaders couldn't get together anymore.

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I think the President coming in as a sole business person hasn’t helped his cause when trying to negotiate politics, they didn’t find an actual crime , but played off as they had an actual crime to present, that got them the hearings they wanted, then they laid out what inconsistencies they had on the President , then started working up the food chain of the Republican Party IMO.

It was a solid plan with tactful strategy they used.

now it is to be seen how many people bought into the final result , did they sway enough voters, I feel there is the other factor as well, how many voters feel that a Socialist government is the direction America needs to go in.

DNWon said:

Emoluments Clause will be the next witch hunt. You can see the media starting to drop stories about Trumps hotels and Secret Service staying there. Unenlytend spews about that here all the time. "Look at the billionaire hotelier/real estate developer who donates his salary in full, and put his business interests in trust, trying to enrich himself by staying at his own properties on the governments dime, what a thief!"

Kentucky governor’s stay at Trump hotel could carry legal implications for president
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...tel-could-carry-legal-implications-president/

Trio of stories point to Trump possibly profiting from presidency
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trio-stories-point-trump-possibly-profiting-presidency

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Keyword, "could". The pull on EVERY thread. The story I was referring to was military traveling out of their way to stay at Trump properties because the get a huge discount.

All in all, not as serious as the VP using the state department connection to extort Ukraine.

Anything going to come from Bolton? He's tweeting again:

Glad to be back on Twitter after more than two months. For the backstory, stay tuned........

We have now liberated the Twitter account, previously suppressed unfairly in the aftermath of my resignation as National Security Advisor. More to come.....

Re: speaking up -- since resigning as National Security Advisor, the@WhiteHouse refused to return access to my personal Twitter account. Out of fear of what I may say? To those who speculated I went into hiding, I’m sorry to disappoint!

In full disclosure, the @WhiteHouse never returned access to my Twitter account. Thank you to
@twitter for standing by their community standards and rightfully returning control of my account.

https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton

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https://twitter.com/search?q=Testify&src=trend_click

Publicly testify the whole truth for your country or kindly shut up entirely. This is no time for coy tweets.

A big #FallbackFriday to hyping & marketing your "backstory" *while* withholding your testimony from a government investigation *while* your own colleagues and subordinates testify, sometimes at great cost and risk.