The USA Political Thread

enlytend said:

OMG - Sonderland is flipping!!

I was expecting him to take the 5th. Instead, his opening statement points straight at the president (and Pompeo.)

“At the express direction of the President of the United States... "
"I followed the directions of the President...."
"Based on the President’s direction..."
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(updated) - And Pence too - wow!!!

Who would have thought Sonderland would be the one political appointee in this administration with a shred of integrity?

Throwing everybody right under the bus. And deservedly so.

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Watching FOX right now and they are shocked.....Wow!

lennco said:

Watching FOX right now and they are shocked.....Wow!

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FOX used the term “bribery.”

lennco said:

This is becoming a real possibility now.....

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Mikey’s gonna be pissed. I bet if you went through his trash you’d find he’s been practicing his anticipated new sig the back of napkins and scrap paper.

100% certain the House will vote to impeach.

I hear rumblings of a few GOP breaking ranks in the last couple of days. If the senate tries to play partisan games and ignore evidence it will come back to bite them at election.

enlytend said:

100% certain the House will vote to impeach.

I hear rumblings of a few GOP breaking ranks in the last couple of days. If the senate tries to play partisan games and ignore evidence it will come back to bite them at election.

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Without a doubt. 100% Guaranteed!

Listening to Nunes right now he sounds really desperate, having a hard time trying to say something cleaver.
He actually tried to make the Bolton "Drug deal" line sound like the Dems are saying it was about a real drug deal....lol
What a Putz

lennco said:

Listening to Nunes right now he sounds really desperate, having a hard time trying to say something cleaver.
He actually tried to make the Bolton "Drug deal" line sound like the Dems are saying it was about a real drug deal....lol
What a Putz

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Anyone who would try to sue a fake cow on Twitter...

I’m sure our resident trumpies think we’re “happy” about this.
I’m not. It’s a sad day for our country to see how low it’s fallen.
But I’m glad the lies are finally being exposed out loud and in public. That needed to happen.

Nancy would make a good interim President. She has he experience and knows the players as well as anyone.. Then we can turn it over to Liz.

enlytend said:

I’m sure our resident trumpies think we’re “happy” about this.
I’m not. It’s a sad day for our country to see how low it’s fallen.
But I’m glad the lies are finally being exposed out loud and in public.

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I am not happy at all that any of this had to happen, but Trump did bring all of this on himself and when he is out of office I will be a great sense of relief.

enlytend said:

Nancy would make a good interim President. She has he experience and knows the players as well as anyone.. Then we can turn it over to Liz.

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Works for me

So now the Republicans will make a big deal out of Trump saying on September 9th he did not want a
Quid Pro Quo, nothing in return.

Really? September 9th???

But for the 6 weeks prior he sure as hell wanted a Quid Pro Quo!
Funny when everything was coming out and the sh!t was about to hit the fan he tries to back track at that point

• July 25: Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky talk by phone. In September it is reported that Trump pressed Zelensky to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's son on the call and Trump later acknowledged Joe Biden was discussed. "We had a great conversation. The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, was largely corruption -- all of the corruption taking place, was largely the fact that we don't want our people like Vice President Biden and his son (adding to the corruption)," Trump told reporters on Sunday. In a readout of the call, the Ukraine government referenced discussion of investigating corruption, but the White House version makes no mention -- saying only that Trump was congratulating Zelensky on his recent election.
• July 25: A readout of the call between Trump and Zelensky is posted on the official website of the President of Ukraine.

• July 26: US Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker, accompanied by US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, met with Zelensky and other "Ukrainian political figures" in Kyiv, according to the whistleblower complaint. Volker and Sondland reportedly advised the Ukrainian leadership on how to "navigate" Trump's demands of Zelensky. 

• July 28: Trump announces that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats will retire.
• August: Giuliani says he spoke to a representative for Zelensky by phone and in person.
• August 8: Trump announces deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon will depart the administration.
• August 9: Trump tells reporters that Zelensky had been invited to the White House.
• August 12: A whistleblower files a complaint with the intelligence inspector general.
• August 15: Gordon and Coats depart the Office of Director of National Intelligence.
• August 26: Intelligence IG forwards complaint to the acting DNI.
• August 28: Then-national security adviser John Bolton meets with Zelensky in Kiev.
• August 30: Trump considers blocking $250 million in military aid to Ukraine, effectively pausing disbursement of the funds during a formal review process.
• September 1: Vice President Mike Pence meets with Zelensky in Warsaw.
• September 2: Deadline for DNI to send whistleblower complaint to Congress -- he does not send it.
• September 9: Intel IG notifies House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff of an "urgent concern" that DNI has overruled.
• September 9: Three House committees launch investigation of efforts by Trump, Giuliani and others to pressure the Ukrainian government to assist the President's reelection efforts. The committees request information about Trump's July phone call with Zelensky.
• September 10: Schiff demands acting DNI turn over the complaint.
• September 11: The administration hold on Ukraine aid is lifted.
• September 13: Schiff subpoenas the acting DNI.
• September 17: The acting DNI refuses to testify.
• September 17: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo talks to the Ukrainian foreign minister
• September 18: Revelation is reported that the complaint involves a Trump communication with a foreign leader and a "promise" made.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/whistleblower-timeline-ukraine-team-trump/index.html

lennco said:

So now the Republicans will make a big deal out of Trump saying on September 9th he did not want a
Quid Pro Quo, nothing in return.

Really? September 9th???

But for the 6 weeks prior he sure as hell wanted a Quid Pro Quo!
Funny when everything was coming out and the sh!t was about to hit the fan he tries to back track at that point

• July 25: Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky talk by phone. In September it is reported that Trump pressed Zelensky to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's son on the call and Trump later acknowledged Joe Biden was discussed. "We had a great conversation. The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, was largely corruption -- all of the corruption taking place, was largely the fact that we don't want our people like Vice President Biden and his son (adding to the corruption)," Trump told reporters on Sunday. In a readout of the call, the Ukraine government referenced discussion of investigating corruption, but the White House version makes no mention -- saying only that Trump was congratulating Zelensky on his recent election.
• July 25: A readout of the call between Trump and Zelensky is posted on the official website of the President of Ukraine.

• July 26: US Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker, accompanied by US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, met with Zelensky and other "Ukrainian political figures" in Kyiv, according to the whistleblower complaint. Volker and Sondland reportedly advised the Ukrainian leadership on how to "navigate" Trump's demands of Zelensky. 

• July 28: Trump announces that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats will retire.
• August: Giuliani says he spoke to a representative for Zelensky by phone and in person.
• August 8: Trump announces deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon will depart the administration.
• August 9: Trump tells reporters that Zelensky had been invited to the White House.
• August 12: A whistleblower files a complaint with the intelligence inspector general.
• August 15: Gordon and Coats depart the Office of Director of National Intelligence.
• August 26: Intelligence IG forwards complaint to the acting DNI.
• August 28: Then-national security adviser John Bolton meets with Zelensky in Kiev.
• August 30: Trump considers blocking $250 million in military aid to Ukraine, effectively pausing disbursement of the funds during a formal review process.
• September 1: Vice President Mike Pence meets with Zelensky in Warsaw.
• September 2: Deadline for DNI to send whistleblower complaint to Congress -- he does not send it.
• September 9: Intel IG notifies House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff of an "urgent concern" that DNI has overruled.
• September 9: Three House committees launch investigation of efforts by Trump, Giuliani and others to pressure the Ukrainian government to assist the President's reelection efforts. The committees request information about Trump's July phone call with Zelensky.
• September 10: Schiff demands acting DNI turn over the complaint.
• September 11: The administration hold on Ukraine aid is lifted.
• September 13: Schiff subpoenas the acting DNI.
• September 17: The acting DNI refuses to testify.
• September 17: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo talks to the Ukrainian foreign minister
• September 18: Revelation is reported that the complaint involves a Trump communication with a foreign leader and a "promise" made.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/whistleblower-timeline-ukraine-team-trump/index.html

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OMG Trump is outside in front of reporters yelling out about the Sept 9th call

lennco said:

OMG Trump is outside in front of reporters yelling out about the Sept 9th call

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He needs to take a few deep breaths and chill or he'll be visiting Walter Reed for "part 2 of his 2020 physical" later.

No real surprises to me on the Initial Sondland testimony today, pretty much what I expected, should be a hot afternoon of cross examination, Nunes is the starter, Jordan is the closer.

lennco said:

This is becoming a real possibility now.....

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Your kidding right?? Lol, I guess you can dream, this is America

Craig Murray on Assange: "Swedes should be ashamed of the way they've been played by the CIA"
Craig Murray reacts to the prosecutor dropping the rape case against Julian Assange which he believes was a 'political fit up from the start'.

Truth tellers getting punished for telling the truth... the world is going mad. Any bets that Julian is gonna get "Epsteined" one of these day?

GILSAN said:

Craig Murray on Assange: "Swedes should be ashamed of the way they've been played by the CIA"
Craig Murray reacts to the prosecutor dropping the rape case against Julian Assange which he believes was a 'political fit up from the start'.

Truth tellers getting punished for telling the truth... the world is going mad. Any bets that Julian is gonna get "Epsteined" one of these day?

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more than likely Yes, Weinstein prolly knew he was fucked when pictures were released of Bill Clinton wearing a dress and shit, implicating high sparrows in his pedo ring. I would kinda expect the same in this case

.X. said:

more than likely Yes, Weinstein prolly knew he was f*cked when pictures were released of Bill Clinton wearing a dress and sh*t, implicating high sparrows in his pedo ring. I would kinda expect the same in this case

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Nobody knows how to act more disgusted when he yells than Gym "Grandstand" Jordan

.X. said:

No real surprises to me on the Initial Sondland testimony today, pretty much what I expected, should be a hot afternoon of cross examination, Nunes is the starter, Jordan is the closer.

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You expected Sondland to throw Trump, Pence and Pompeo under the bus?

Nunes's starter had a dead battery and Jordan couldn't close a ziplock bag.

Narrator: He didn't flip.

enlytend said:

OMG - Sonderland is flipping!!

I was expecting him to take the 5th. Instead, his opening statement points straight at the president (and Pompeo.)

“At the express direction of the President of the United States... "
"I followed the directions of the President...."
"Based on the President’s direction..."
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(updated) - And Pence too - wow!!!

Who would have thought Sonderland would be the one political appointee in this administration with a shred of integrity?

Throwing everybody right under the bus. And deservedly so.

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A day of hot takes and fake news.

mr-x said:

Narrator: He didn't flip.

A day of hot takes and fake news.

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Whats fake? He is flipping as I type this.

What a difference 24 hours will make.

lennco said:

Whats fake? He is flipping as I type this.

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We'll see.

New round of poll results based on 801 interviews with WI registered voters Nov. 13 to 17. Margin of error for full sample is +/-4.1 percentage points. #mulawpoll

: - ))

A new poll from Marquette Law School has found that support for impeaching President Trump has actually fallen 4 points in the battleground state of Wisconsin

I would have no problem in stretching this out in order to go to court to get Giuliani and Bolton to testify.
I have lots of patience.

lennco said:

I would have no problem in stretching this out in order to go to court to get Giuliani and Bolton to testify.
I have lots of patience.

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You better hope it doesn't make it to the Senate. Remember, your leadership will say and do anything to get their way. Aka Kavanaugh. That debacle helped the R's hold the Senate and hurt the D's in the house.

Nunes truthfully listed the outlandish lies and conspiracies propagated by Schiff, Pelosi, Schumer and the media. When the R's get to set the rules and call witnesses, it will be MUCH different.

Hot tip: No one actually cares what Trump did. They democrats are neglecting our country to pursue a vendetta. Everyone knows Biden is corrupt and the Democrats play the same quid pro quo game.