discuss Why hasn’t anyone found a way to sell to businesses?

Bob Hawkes said:

If they could get buy-in from other players, was not blockchain based DAN project spearheaded by Undeveloped a way to have a single window to all available domain names, and a more efficient and verifiable way to move ownership? Perhaps I misunderstand it.

https://blog.undeveloped.com/domain...coming-innovative-thriving-again-a751d2e17ae9

I agree with @Kate that we don't want monopoly of a single company, but a system that multiple companies used so each had access to the full catalog of available domain names would be great.

I agree with @uglydork that the current system, even with some big players like Afternic, Sedo MLS and Undeveloped, and a host of smaller ones, is inefficient for organization and business owners to seek a domain name and easily purchase it.

Bob

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EASYPICKINGS said:

I’m thinking all websites for sale should redirect to the same landing page where they can securely buy it from this middle man. So right now I gotta find a business to redirect all my websites to so people visiting can have a buy/offer option. I’m thinking all of us would pay $5 a month to a central platform that we depend on to close sales, and have buyers reach us so we’re not checking all the freakin auction sites for leads.

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uglydork said:

You would think after all these years that one of the huge brokerage companies would have developed the secret sauce.
How do you get companies and businesses to go to a single point website to buy domain names?
Yes, outbound works but it’s fractured- nobody has taken over a B2B clearing house to sell domains. We don’t have a dominant go to website for business to browse names for sale.
I think about it all the time but I am a little fish - I don’t have the resources to pull it off

I build a clearinghouse site to list names for businesses - it is well known like a Google or Apple - we pay to list our names on that site. Seems like a simple idea but our community has too many sites (undeveloped,Uniregistry,brockets,flippa,sedo,Afternic) they need to be aggregated into one monster site that is well publicized.

Damn I should be rich!

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Larion said:

I am thinking of creating such a Domain-Marketplace as described by uglydork.

What could be the name (domain) for such a Marketplace, in order to reach out to the general public or to Business-customers ?


What do you think of the following Keywords (for the domain at which such a Marketplace is presented):
- Style
- B2B
- Cyb (Cyber)



Appreciate your input.

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Larion said:

I am thinking of creating such a Domain-Marketplace as described by uglydork.

What could be the name (domain) for such a Marketplace, in order to reach out to the general public or to Business-customers ?


What do you think of the following Keywords (for the domain at which such a Marketplace is presented):
- Style
- B2B
- Cyb (Cyber)



Appreciate your input.

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Jason Baudendistel said:

Would a company purchase a domain with a similar name for the purpose of brand protection? You could approach said company inquire about interest level. Just a thought.

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MapleDots said:

A business wants to purchase incognito, the hired broker will claim poor student status when purchasing the domain. They will purchase a 150k domain for 15k and the person selling has no idea until the domain goes live. I see it again and again, including a sale to facebook which was discussed on the forum here. Everyone was ..... good sale, way to go. I was like huh!! seriously??? to facebook at that price??? Crap I would have slapped my head a few times had I sold it to facebook on the cheap like that.

We had a recent case in Canada and the last thing these billion dollar corporations want to do is go to a website and tell anyone they are looking. In most cases they are just like the rest of us, they want it on the cheap and one never really knows the company that is interested.

This has been a sticking point of mine for years and I always say if you know the end user you have more power over the negotiations.

So in my opinion the op's suggestion is pointless (so sorry, your opinion is always appreciated), a business knows exactly what domain they want and when they are ready to buy they sure as hell are not going to announce it. They are going on the sly to get it as cheap as possible. It is our responsibility as the domain owner to assure we know the end user. You make contact with me and I am very direct about it, no end user, no sale. It starts at the very first contact and ends with a bill of sale specifically outlining this. First contact form if you want an example is here: https://mapledots.ca/contact/


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MapleDots said:

A business wants to purchase incognito, the hired broker will claim poor student status when purchasing the domain. They will purchase a 150k domain for 15k and the person selling has no idea until the domain goes live. I see it again and again, including a sale to facebook which was discussed on the forum here. Everyone was ..... good sale, way to go. I was like huh!! seriously??? to facebook at that price??? Crap I would have slapped my head a few times had I sold it to facebook on the cheap like that.

We had a recent case in Canada and the last thing these billion dollar corporations want to do is go to a website and tell anyone they are looking. In most cases they are just like the rest of us, they want it on the cheap and one never really knows the company that is interested.

This has been a sticking point of mine for years and I always say if you know the end user you have more power over the negotiations.

So in my opinion the op's suggestion is pointless (so sorry, your opinion is always appreciated), a business knows exactly what domain they want and when they are ready to buy they sure as hell are not going to announce it. They are going on the sly to get it as cheap as possible. It is our responsibility as the domain owner to assure we know the end user. You make contact with me and I am very direct about it, no end user, no sale. It starts at the very first contact and ends with a bill of sale specifically outlining this. First contact form if you want an example is here: https://mapledots.ca/contact/

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Larion said:

exactly because of this, platforms like e.g. @Sedo are senseless and counterproductive for a domain-seller.

issue 1: the seller does not know who the buyer is
issue 2: high brokerage commissions

there needs to be a new platform, which removes these issues.

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MapleDots said:

Trust me if facebook comes knocking and I know its them I am adding a few hundred k to the price.

As a general rule (if you follow Rick Schwartz) a good domain name is worth a small percentage of the business value. Domains should, and do, sell for more to larger more profitable companies. Anyone that turns that away did not follow some of the bigger sales like daimler.com. It was priced for a large corporation and the owner was very smart. He could have sold it a number of times but he knew who the end user was going to be. His planning and patience paid off big time.

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Jason Baudendistel said:

Would a company purchase a domain with a similar name for the purpose of brand protection? You could approach said company inquire about interest level. Just a thought.

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uglydork said:

Seems like a simple idea but our community has too many sites (undeveloped,Uniregistry,brockets,flippa,sedo,Afternic) they need to be aggregated into one monster site that is well publicized.

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garptrader said:

The vast majority of people view domain names as they would a logo or hosting account. How much would you be willing to pay for that? Yet in my work I have seen businesses pay without hesitation five -figure invoices for web development, SEO and marketing services, five figures monthly for AdWords campaigns, regular five -figure invoices for attorneys (six figures for a larger business), hotel, airfare, meals for dozens of corporate managers to attend an off-site meeting, six figures for maintenance on a corporate jet and five figures for the fuel bill, five figure bonuses to execs, five figure invoices for misc IT services, etc. Then you come across invoices for some of the domains they have registered or filings related to domains they consider business assets and go ????? What the #%@&! we're they thinking when they registered that?

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Lord Antares said:

The fact is, no one other than domainers cares about domain names.

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Sheogorath said:

Well, there is dofo.com which checks if the domain is listed on any marketplace(Sedo, Afternic etc.) and then gives the option to go and buy the domain.
I'm not affiliated with them.
I found about it and I think it is useful

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lock said:

It still all boils down to the merit of the domain. If you offered cars.com to the Janitor he is going to tell the ceo.

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