Is Sedo DONE?

DanBingham · Nov 10, 2019

Ok, so let's face it - Sedo has been around for a while, it's platform could do with a complete overhaul, and they've made it much more difficult in listing names.

Is now about time Sedo closed it's doors?
What do YOU think?

mr-x · Nov 12, 2019

1) Your landing pages still don't work with SSL.

2) Your parking pages don't work with ad blockers. How hard is it to add a <noscript> This Domain Is For SALE</noscript> ??

3) Sedo sales are way down and your customer service is a shadow of what it was.

Sedo said:
Hi DefinitelyDomains

Thank you for your engaging post.

The answer to your question is no, Sedo is most certainly not done. In fact since new management took control over Sedo, not only has our domain sales increased but the percentage of successful transfers has increased and with it customer satisfaction has also improved. This can be reflected in our trust pilot scoring, which has increased to ‘Excellent’.

We have a domain ownership verification process to increase the integrity of our marketplace and as a process to fight against ‘seller not owner’ sales. If you are finding this process difficult then please explain in more detail where exactly you are having difficulty and I will do my best to assist you.

As you mentioned, Sedo has been around for a while and we intend to be around for a lot longer, we want to remain the number 1 marketplace for you to buy and sell your domains. You mention our platform could do with an overhaul, I can assure you that our Tech Team are innovating and working on improving our marketplace as I write this email. With the intention of creating a better user experience when managing your domains.

We are constantly listening to feedback from our customers, some of the best feedback of which has come from this very forum. Our customers have asked and we have delivered:

· Price cap was lifted for sellers listing domains for more than 50000.

· We implemented 13 new sales landers to increase the chances of selling for those of you who looking to prioritise the sale of domains over earning money with our parking program.

· We dropped the minimum commission fee of 60 USD/ Euro, meaning on lower sales a seller can earn twice as much profit.

· We lowered the minimum offer to 20 Euro from 90 Euro for our sellers who wanted to sell lower valued domains quickly attracting more buyers.

· We have provided engaging auctions for our customers including the latest IGaming and Gambling auctions which are free to apply for.

· We updated our Search Algorithm, to display more direct matches to the keyword.

· We reduced the Payout time for transfers sales if buyer doesn’t confirm ownership.

· We have improved our MLS service to increase the chances of a domain selling.

· Sedos marketplace and our Sales brokers are STILL achieving some of the highest sales in the industry.

These are just some of the improvements we made in the last few months which were suggestions from domainers like yourself. Plus we have made many other changes, we have been taking all our customers feedback to our business development team and are trying to implement customers wishes to improve the overall experience at Sedo.

Just watch out, we still aim to improve and be the best we can for you and 2020 is a new year coming soon!

We wish you every success in your domain affairs!

All the best Chris

frank-germany · Nov 12, 2019

Jurgen Wolf said:
If seller's country is so mandatory - then it should be displayed only for VAT countries.
All countries outside VAT - don't need this leak of privacy at all.

that might be too complex for sedo

Jurgen Wolf · Nov 12, 2019

I use V3 Blank lander.
And I don't see any sense in Sedo monetization, it is traditionally the worst among competitors.

Jurgen Wolf · Nov 12, 2019

frank-germany said:
that might be too complex for sedo

https://sedo-us1.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4094/
Sedo is obliged to follow only EU directive.
Why they show all other countries - I don't understand.

Larion · Nov 12, 2019

Sedo said:
Dear Larion,

We have received a lot of positive feedback about our sales landers, after releasing version 1 we listened to what you guys had to say about it and with your feedback and requests we produced 12 alternative versions, so there was one for everyone. What exactly do you mean by ‘ugly’, could you please explain what you think we got wrong with the design?

it would take me a couple of hours to explain this all to you.
And I already posted a few design-mockups and suggestions previously.
Anyway, the "old" landing pages look better in design and colors than your new landing pages.
The "new" landing pages do not look professional and have some design-bugs.

I am also surprised that the "new" landing pages are only used when someone is using your "Parking Program".
However, I am glad that I am not using your parking-program and therefore also not have to use your "new" landing-page.

Laguna · Nov 12, 2019

@Sedo
You are holding a igaming auction at the end of November and I entered iGamingTokens but as usual it was rejected. I think iGamingTokens for an igaming auction is spot on. Can you please explain to me and others what basis this was rejected.
Gary

Soofi · Nov 12, 2019

I strongly feel that new sales landers are way better than the previous version, and the reason why I am using them for my 5-6 figure domain names.

Plus side of using Sedo is that the domain enduser/buyer is a confirmed lead and will go through the hoops only to complete the deal, 99.99% of times.

Unlike some other aftermarket platforms where buyers and offering parties disappear in thin air without any further sign. Or we lose them due to their complex payment processing!

Larion said:
it would take me a couple of hours to explain this all to you.
And I already posted a few design-mockups and suggestions previously.
Anyway, the "old" landing pages look better in design and colors than your new landing pages.
The "new" landing pages do not look professional and have some design-bugs.

I am also surprised that the "new" landing pages are only used when someone is using your "Parking Program".
However, I am glad that I am not using your parking-program and therefore also not have to use your "new" landing-page.

Laguna · Nov 12, 2019

Soofi said:
what’s wrong with your professionalism here buddy?

when you go around telling people to be professional, watch your own self and your choice of words, before you go on preaching others SMH

.

Larion · Nov 12, 2019

Soofi said:
I strongly feel that new sales landers are way better than the previous version, and the reason why I am using them for my 5-6 figure domain names.

Plus side of using Sedo is that the domain enduser/buyer is a confirmed lead and will go through the hoops only to complete the deal, 99.99% of times.

Unlike some other aftermarket platforms where buyers and offering parties disappear in thin air without any further sign. Or we lose them due to their complex payment processing!

you are mixing different topics.

Jurgen Wolf · Nov 12, 2019

I highly recommend to battle directly (DM)...

Soofi · Nov 12, 2019

Lagunaboy said:
Pot and kettle springs to mind here. I've read your rude remarks to Reza and dan.com
Just saying

exactly my point with my post above.. I quoted someone’s post if you didn’t bother noticing littleboy, Whoops I meant lagunaboy!!

EDIT:

Do you even know the background context of discussion or argument with Reza or this guy Frank-germany?

Reza called me LIAR when I and half a dozen others pointed out that there might be something wrong with their payment processing. And this guy Frank-germany jumped in to suggest I be professional when I was attacked (name-calling) by Reza in the first place.

If you do not really know the full backstory, one shouldn't jump to conclusions immediately.

Laguna · Nov 12, 2019

Soofi said:
exactly my point with my post above.. I quoted someone’s post if you didn’t bother noticing littleboy, Whoops I meant lagunaboy!!

.

Soofi · Nov 12, 2019

-edit

Soofi · Nov 12, 2019

Lagunaboy said:
You just proved my point. RUDE

going to ignore you, because I wasn’t really talking to you anyhow!!

Jurgen Wolf · Nov 12, 2019

One more suggestion to these landers...
Please add Renewal indicator with just 2 values: Standard | Premium
So sellers will be able to set it accordingly.

frank-germany · Nov 12, 2019

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Soofi · Nov 12, 2019

- edit

branding · Nov 12, 2019

So much hostility... I think we need more actual cannabis instead of cannabis domains.

Jurgen Wolf · Nov 12, 2019

Lagunaboy said:
@Sedo
You are holding a igaming auction at the end of November and I entered iGamingTokens but as usual it was rejected. I think iGamingTokens for an igaming auction is spot on. Can you please explain to me and others what basis this was rejected.
Gary

https://www.namepros.com/threads/sedo-igaming-auction.1163137/

Sedo · Nov 13, 2019

Hi all,

Thank you all for you feedback and suggestions, please be assured that I have forwarded them all on to our development team.

Much appreciated!
Chris

MasterOfMyDomains · Nov 13, 2019

Is there a way to change layout to selling template in bulk? Individually would be quite time consuming.
As for sedo being done, i dont think so
My last sale on sedo went smooth and i have no complaints

Why when i login, sometimes it says my domains, next time it says domain management when i click on my name-my sedo

Jurgen Wolf · Nov 13, 2019

Switch to Parking Optimization view in Sedo panel...
Then click "Edit" icon beside Layout column title, set in a bulk and save at the bottom.

Sedo · Nov 14, 2019

MasterOfMyDomains said:
Is there a way to change layout to selling template in bulk? Individually would be quite time consuming.
As for sedo being done, i dont think so
My last sale on sedo went smooth and i have no complaints

Why when i login, sometimes it says my domains, next time it says domain management when i click on my name-my sedo

Hi there,

Thanks for the comment, to change to the sales your sales lander in bulk please do as so:

1. Login to your account
2. Go to My Sedo > My Domains (Domain Management)
3. Change your view from 'standard overview' to 'Parking optimisation'
4. Select the edit pen in the blue bar next to 'Layouts' select 'edit layouts options' from the dropdown.
5. Select Sales Lander from the drop down box and select the check box next to that which will select every domain.
6. Click the green tick to make the changes.

All the best
Chris

ThatNameGuy · Nov 18, 2019

NameDeck said:
I must admit I don't know for a fact nor do I have any data at hand to support my claim. @Bob Hawkes ? You're the data guy

Seriously though. I'm sure I could collect the data if I put my mind to it. It's a fine example of how a lot of people from the USA think that the world ends beyond the US. Best example is the underrepresented Chinese market. It's huge.

But sure, there is a global market for a lot of names but targeting specific regions can be a smart play. And no, we don't need a Geo specific namepros. We have subcategories for that

To get back to your real estate example, no. A lot of the world (read most) will not understand those names, better even, have no use for them.

It's like you're trying to sell your stuff over here through Amazon. Not gonna pan out. I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong, just that there's a vast market beyond what a lot of domainers are focusing on.

In all due respect, you are so far off base with regards to the percentage of English speaking domains, you have to be living in a different world, or maybe the Netherlands

I've done a quick study on Namebio of domain names sold and the percentage mirrors the percentage you see here with regards to the top 25 Brands in the world;

https://www.netbase.com/blog/global-love-list-2018-the-importance-of-brand-love-in-social-analytics/

It appears that instead of a "small percentage" of domain sales are from the US like you said, it's about 70% and the rest of the world 30%. This is yet another reason why I'm not buying into the idea that "outbound" sales won't work. It may not work for you in the Netherlands, but I'm more positive now than ever it can work here in the US. Rob Monster of Epik, are you listening? EpikTrust.com is available to start a commission/contingency brokerage, and I know the perfect guy to make it happen

branding · Nov 18, 2019

ThatNameGuy said:
In all due respect, you are so far off base with regards to the percentage of English speaking domains, you have to be living in a different world, or maybe the Netherlands I've done a quick study on Namebio of domain names sold and the percentage mirrors the percentage you see here with regards to the top 25 Brands in the world;

https://www.netbase.com/blog/global-love-list-2018-the-importance-of-brand-love-in-social-analytics/

It appears that instead of a "small percentage" of domain sales are from the US like you said, it's about 70% and the rest of the world 30%. This is yet another reason why I'm not buying into the idea that "outbound" sales won't work. It may not work for you in the Netherlands, but I'm more positive now than ever it can work here in the US. Rob Monster of Epik, are you listening? EpikTrust.com is available to start a commission/contingency brokerage, and I know the perfect guy to make it happen

Ready to get educated?

I know you tend to skip a lot, but for real, its informative.

First of all, It's not about 'english speaking domains'. That has nothing to do with the geographical location of the owner. Over here we speak/read/write English all day long. Most people in europe (some countries excluded, depending on generation also) are quite fluent in English or a multitude of languages.

We have to be. The core aspect that makes the EU work is international trade. This goes especially for a small country like The Netherlands (on a sidenote, did you ever notice you'll find Dutch names all over the world? We've always been trading. It's in our blood. Did you know we used to own New York? If we wouldn't have gotten our ass handed to us by the British it would still be named New Amsterdam

).

Knowing that, a lot of domains that would be concidered valuable to the national market are english keyword domains, hence a lot of domains registered by EU owners are english keyword domains. My best bet is that the same goes for a lot of other countries.

I'm not sure how you pull that data from Namebio. They have no data on buyers locations so how would you measure that? I like the article you quote in your post (we share the love for branding) but it doesn't support your opinion in any way. It's about the most loved brands. That says nothing about quantity. For all I know the 100 most loved brands are mostly US companies whereas millions of others are from China. I didn't see the full report but I wouldn't be surprised if the list of evaluated brands is biased towards the western world given the source.

So basically you come to the conclusion that 70% of sales are US based derives from the fact that (I don't know how) you pulled data from NB that would support 70% of sales are english keywords. That's comparing apples and oranges.

Let's also take into account that a lot of large venues do not report any sales. I know for a fact that there are some very active EU markets with a lot of trade and sales going on that don't report ever. I can't know for sure about areas I'm not familiar with or don't operate in but I can only assume the Asian market is huge. That being said, a lot of trade in the US goes unreported just the same.

Anybody with more insight about those markets feel free to chime in.

So now, let's apply some logic to my reasoning as we obviously lack enough data to know for sure (again, I'm sure the data can be compiled and extrapolated upon but that would require some further research and sharing of more data by some venues).

Only 26% of domains registered are owned by US registrants. Now let's factor in that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, are under privacy which obviously most of the time would show up as a US entity. On 34% of domain registrations the geographical location of the owner is unknown. Maye that includes the domains under privacy, it's a bit unclear to me. But you know, Since we do know that 26% is owned by US registrants, lets also assume that roughly 1/4th of that percentage accounts for US owners. So lets say about 35% of all domains are owned by Americans...

It would not make sense that 35% of all domains would account for 70% of sales on global scale. What we do not know is who the targeted endusers are, EU registrants could just as well be targeting US endusers and the other way around. Let's say that evens out the numbers on both sides. I can only logically assume that the US market only represents roughly 1/3rd of the industry.

I know there are be some flaws in this resoning but you know... without cold hard data... gotta skip some if/then/else thoughts.

Point being: If you focus only on US endusers you're leaving money on the table.

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