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You guys are working yourself up for nothing. Asking a Gov to assist investigation of crime that happened before Trump was elected isn't illegal. Not even with a "quid pro quo".

Don't listen to leftist like Kurt Eichenwald. They're stupid and you'll be disappointing. Again. ™

I woke up way late, about to workout but will catch up on all of this later but damn so much gold here.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Mulvaney&src=trend_click

"Sekulow: "The president's legal counsel was not involved in acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney's press briefing."

Kurt Eichenwald
1. The magnitude of what Mulvaney has just confessed is far beyond anything we have faced as a country since its founding. This is *not* simply a quid pro quo. This is extortion, and a violation of criminal law under Title 18 U.S. Code § 878....

Mulvaney is right, quid pro quos in foreign policy happens all the time, but to advance American NATIONAL interests, not the PRIVATE personal reelection interests of the president. There's a difference. A big difference!
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@mr-x look at it this way. You like Pence better anyways. So unless he's going down as well, which would be funny, then we would have a President Pelosi.

Who knows, but it is not looking good right now and it just continues to get worse.
 
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You guys are working yourself up for nothing. Asking a Gov to assist investigation of crime that happened before Trump was elected isn't illegal. Not even with a "quid pro quo".

Don't listen to leftist like Kurt Eichenwald. They're stupid and you'll be disappointing. Again. ™

It's not nothing.

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Congress Approval, Support for Impeaching Trump Both Up
https://news.gallup.com/poll/267491/congress-approval-support-impeaching-trump.aspx

Polls show Americans have come to support Trump's impeachment much faster than Nixon's or Clinton’s
https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...VpUIZXr2lEachA2RwTMlHo3wD8pAZVG1swqWp17Tm2x_6
 
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William Harry McRaven is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. From 2015 to 2018, he was the chancellor of The University of Texas System.

I've heard this tripe repeated so many times by left wing nuts with TDS. Do you think this guy is more or less credible than Ben Rhodes or John Brennen ?



Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.​

By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command. Oct 17 2019

Last week I attended two memorable events that reminded me why we care so very much about this nation and also why our future may be in peril.

The first was a change of command ceremony for a storied Army unit in which one general officer passed authority to another. The second event was an annual gala for the Office of Strategic Services (O.S.S.) Society that recognizes past and present members of the intelligence and Special Operations community for their heroism and sacrifice to the nation. What struck me was the stark contrast between the words and deeds heralded at those events — and the words and deeds emanating from the White House.

On the parade field at Fort Bragg, N.C., where tens of thousands of soldiers have marched either preparing to go to war or returning from it, the two generals, highly decorated, impeccably dressed, cleareyed and strong of character, were humbled by the moment.

They understood the awesome responsibility that the nation had placed on their shoulders. They understood that they had an obligation to serve their soldiers and their soldiers’ families. They believed in the American values for which they had been fighting for the past three decades. They had faith that these values were worth sacrificing everything for — including, if necessary, their lives.

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Having served with both officers for the past 20 years, the genuineness of their humility, their uncompromising integrity, their willingness to sacrifice all for a worthy cause, and the pride they had in their soldiers, personified all that is good and decent and honorable about the American military.

Later that week, at the O.S.S. Society dinner, there were films and testimonials to the valor of the men and women who had fought in Europe and the Pacific during World War II. We also celebrated the 75th anniversary of D-Day, recognizing those brave Americans and allies who sacrificed so much to fight Nazism and fascism. We were reminded that the Greatest Generation went to war because it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered. We would be there because the world needed us and if not us, then who?

Also that evening we recognized the incredible sacrifice of a new generation of Americans: an Army Special Forces warrant officer who had been wounded three times, the most recent injury costing him his left leg above the knee. He was still in uniform and still serving. There was an intelligence officer, who embodied the remarkable traits of those men and women who had served in the O.S.S. And a retired Marine general, whose 40 years of service demonstrated all that was honorable about the Corps and public service.

But the most poignant recognition that evening was for a young female sailor who had been killed in Syria serving alongside our allies in the fight against ISIS. Her husband, a former Army Green Beret, accepted the award on her behalf. Like so many that came before her, she had answered the nation’s call and willingly put her life in harm’s way.

For everyone who ever served in uniform, or in the intelligence community, for those diplomats who voice the nation’s principles, for the first responders, for the tellers of truth and the millions of American citizens who were raised believing in American values — you would have seen your reflection in the faces of those we honored last week.

But, beneath the outward sense of hope and duty that I witnessed at these two events, there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear that echoed across the sidelines. The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within.

These men and women, of all political persuasions, have seen the assaults on our institutions: on the intelligence and law enforcement community, the State Department and the press. They have seen our leaders stand beside despots and strongmen, preferring their government narrative to our own. They have seen us abandon our allies and have heard the shouts of betrayal from the battlefield. As I stood on the parade field at Fort Bragg, one retired four-star general, grabbed my arm, shook me and shouted, “I don’t like the Democrats, but Trump is destroying the Republic!”

Those words echoed with me throughout the week. It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.

And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html

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^ A Real American Hero, Officer and a Gentleman.​
 
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William Harry McRaven is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. From 2015 to 2018, he was the chancellor of The University of Texas System.

I've heard this tripe repeated so many times by left wing nuts with TDS. Do you think this guy is more or less credible than Ben Rhodes or John Brennen ?

What's the point?

The first line says - "Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command. Oct 17 2019"

You just added what he was doing since then? Well yeah.
 
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It's not nothing.

It's resistance theater. Opinions of left wing journalist are worth the paper they're printed on.

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Congress Approval, Support for Impeaching Trump Both Up
https://news.gallup.com/poll/267491/congress-approval-support-impeaching-trump.aspx

Polls show Americans have come to support Trump's impeachment much faster than Nixon's or Clinton’s
https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...VpUIZXr2lEachA2RwTMlHo3wD8pAZVG1swqWp17Tm2x_6


I'm not really concerned with polls on this. Every time I check there is a democrat bias
 
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William Harry McRaven is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. From 2015 to 2018, he was the chancellor of The University of Texas System.
I forgot to add that, all fixed.
 
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What's the point?

The first line says - "Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command. Oct 17 2019"

You just added what he was doing since then? Well yeah.

Do you think he's more or less credible than John Brennan or Ben Rhodes? Nancy Pelosi? What's that guys name on MSNBC.. Rachel Maddow?

I'll repeat myself, it's tripe. His title doesn't matter.
 
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Do you think he's more or less credible than John Brennan or Ben Rhodes? Nancy Pelosi? What's that guys name on MSNBC.. Rachel Maddow?

I'll repeat myself, it's tripe. His title doesn't matter.

A lot of military folk think Trump is a bum, you know this.
 
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I've heard this tripe repeated so many times by left wing nuts with TDS. Do you think this guy is more or less credible than Ben Rhodes or John Brennen ?
You just had to add some crap to your post, I had to take my Thanks away.
He speaks of real American principles and you call it Tripe.

Nobody is ever allowed to speak negatively about Trump no matter what as far as you are concerned, are they?
 
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I forgot to add that, all fixed.

"But the most poignant recognition that evening was for a young female sailor who had been killed in Syria".

A lot wrapped up in this letter. I wonder what he had to say about President Obama approving of "regime change" in Syria, then providing half hearted support to the Islamist trying to kill Bashar al-Assad?

I've heard military leadership say thing like "they signed up to server" in response to the question how long do we have to stay in Syria. Tell that to mothers, widows, widowers, children of fallen military.

I agree President Trump screwed the pooch not giving notice. But as he said, I've been trying to get out of Syria for years.

We control the oil, let RU have the sand.
 
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You just had to add some crap to your post, I had to take my Thanks away.
He speaks of real American principles and you call it Tripe.

Nobody is ever allowed to speak negatively about Trump no matter what as far as you are concerned, are they?

The Admiral continues to talk about the attacks on the good men and women of the deep state. The ones that gave immunity to a criminal and her staff, then as an "insurance policy" lied in federal court to obtain illegal FISA warrants based on information they KNEW was false.

You guys were SURE Muller was going to expose Trump. Now the deep state is doing everything they can to delay, obfuscate the IG report of FISA abuse by the FBI and CIA.
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Trump's had a horrible week, which he created for himself. Some criticism was deserved, as the Admiral made clear.

My gripe is these guys didn't have anything to say when Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were blowing up Egypt, Libya and Syria. Then letting ISIS grow into a terror state. No poignant op-eds, just cheer leading from the left.

George Bush and Mitt Romney sat on there hands and kept quiet when Obama set the middle east on fire.
 
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Face it, Its not looking good for Trump and his minions.

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Here you go... just finished talking to my buddy Donald in Washington... he sent this to send to you. Just be careful not to grab the bunnies by the pussy, or you may lose the privileges of this Gold Card!
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lol...Not a leftie but I do appreciate the effort with the card (y)
 
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Mick Mulvaney is now trying his best to back peddle what he said today :xf.laugh:

What he needs is one of these,

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A lot of military folk think Trump is a bum, you know this.
Being a draft dodger didn't exactly start him off on the right, supposedly-bone-spurred, foot to begin with ...
 
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Being a draft dodger didn't exactly start him off on the right, supposedly-bone-spurred, foot to begin with ...

Remind me again what branch of military did Obama serve in?
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Other than the Muslim brotherhood...
 
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Being a draft dodger didn't exactly start him off on the right, supposedly-bone-spurred, foot to begin with ...

That and having no interest in reading daily intelligence briefings and thinking he's smarter than his own generals.

 
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Being a draft dodger didn't exactly start him off on the right, supposedly-bone-spurred, foot to begin with ...

How many wars have you fought in?
 
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That and having no interest in reading daily intelligence briefings and thinking he's smarter than his own generals.
Yup. None of his military advisors were in favor of what he did with Syria and Turkey.

And now we have this bullsh*t “pause”, which is effectively a surrender. Don’t believe me? Read it. Basically the Kurds (who weren’t a party to the agreement) won’t get shot as they leave - if they leave now - allowing Turkey to occupy the land. We also gave up our sanctions so we have no leverage over Turkey. We are endorsing the occupation.

USA was just owned by Turkey.

Fun fact: Turkey used to be a democracy. It took only 3 years for them to become an authoritarian regime.

Following a talk with POTUS, Graham seems to have detached his detachables again and put them back in the drawer. What does dump have on him?
 
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Yup. None of his military advisors were in favor of what he did with Syria and Turkey.

And now we have this bullsh*t “pause”, which is effectively a surrender. Don’t believe me? Read it. Basically the Kurds (who weren’t a party to the agreement) won’t get shot as they leave - if they leave now - allowing Turkey to occupy the land. We also gave up our sanctions so we have no leverage over Turkey. We are endorsing the occupation.

USA was just owned by Turkey.

Fun fact: Turkey used to be a democracy. It took only 3 years for them to become an authoritarian regime.

Following a talk with POTUS, Graham seems to have detached his detachables again and put them back in the drawer. What does dump have on him?
So true, It is a bullsh*t “pause” which I knew it would be the second SirDrago came here and prematurely popped off.

As far as Graham goes, I wonder if they Snap on or if he uses Velcro?

And yes you are right, the worst part is that Trump just showed the World h=He/US can be Owned.
Another bad day for the US.

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