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Very frustrating to see no sales since July, is there a whining fairy to reach out to, is this a trend others are experiencing too?

Most of my portfolio is 2 word names, or brandable names under 7 characters ( listed on 3rd parties)
3rd parties = about 150 on Brandbucket, 150 on Brandpa, 50 on SquadHelp = all priced by them
Rest, mostly 2 word, landing on DAN, listed on afternic and godaddy - all priced competitively near $2900
Most domains are 2+ years. Average sale was 3 domains per month till July.
Usually i get lowball offers, but that haven't been coming in for a couple of months.
 
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So, if someone decides they want the .COM, they will look to see who has it -- often just by typing it in to see what is there. That is where a convincing SSL lander is quite helpful.

In other words, type-in traffic for brandables can be very precious traffic. It is wise not to waste it.

Hi

domain names have been selling for years, many without landers.

there is also no statistical data to support any theory, that not having a SSL certificate on an "offer to buy" lander has been a deterrent to interested parties wanting to purchase that domain name.

therefore there is no evidence that traffic to a brandable domains' page is wasted, if it doesn't have a SSL certificate.

in other words, no SSL certificate is needed or required to sell a domain, nor has it been proven that not having one will limit your sales.

imo...
 
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Hi

domain names have been selling for years, many without landers.

there is also no statistical data to support any theory, that not having a SSL certificate on an "offer to buy" lander has been a deterrent to interested parties wanting to purchase that domain name.

therefore there is no evidence that traffic to a brandable domains' page is wasted, if it doesn't have a SSL certificate.

in other words, no SSL certificate is needed or required to sell a domain, nor has it been proven that not having one will limit your sales.

imo...

What has changed?

- Ad blockers are now common and block most of the content on a parking page.

- Search engines have weighted SSL as a standard. SSLs are increasingly free Any serious site should have one.

- GDPR has turned WHOIS into Swiss cheese. A very high percentage of domains now have no way to contact the registrant as a result.

All that said, do as you like.
 
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When you have a brandable domain on a name-advisory platform, you are in a buyer's market.

When you have a brandable domain in isolation on its own landing page, you are in a seller's market. The buyer is looking at one domain: your domain and they love it.

What a simple and great clarification. Taken onboard.
 
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What a simple and great clarification. Taken onboard.

Thanks.

The brand marketplaces have been a good thing. In fact, we even considered an acquisition in that arena. However, what caused the pause was the obvious race to the bottom on retail pricing.

Brandable domains are an art form -- a great brandable is worthy of a premium to a strategic buyer who agrees with you about the genius of the brand.

Please should stop selling art like its trash. The appraisal engines routinely undervalue them. I have a guy right now that wants to buy my domain name SmartBack.com,

He comes to me with an offer of $2718. Why? Because it is appraised on Godaddy for that. Nonsense. That is a genius brand. He can buy it for $100K, or he can lease it for cheap: just $75 per month.
 
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What has changed?

- Ad blockers are now common and block most of the content on a parking page.

- Search engines have weighted SSL as a standard. SSLs are increasingly free Any serious site should have one.

- GDPR has turned WHOIS into Swiss cheese. A very high percentage of domains now have no way to contact the registrant as a result.

All that said, do as you like.

Hi

I agree, a lot has changed and thru that time....
as I like... is always, how I've done it.

I moved a couple of domains from one ppc to another, and the ctr and epc have increased for both in the last two months.
now that's a nice surprise :)

average ctr for portfolio across various ppc platforms is around 20% and has been in double digits for over a decade.

sure, ad blockers have had an effect on ppc,
but some who provide these services have adapted and even prevailed those obstacles to a level that still makes them productive and potentially profitable options.

I also agree that SSLs can be had or used for free, ppc's have them and a website that conducts business, should have one too.

as for whois and gdpr, I still get inquires via whois and inquiries about domains that are on privacy by default, not to mention the spam emails and phone calls from folks who skim registrations and zone files.

sure, a lot has changed, but a lot has stayed the same.

imo….
 
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in other words, no SSL certificate is needed or required to sell a domain, nor has it been proven that not having one will limit your sales.
When the browser tells its user in a red font that "this site is not secure", quite a few people are going to reconsider doing any kind of payment-involving business with that website. You don't expect all the buyers to be tech-savvy to the fullest, do you?
 
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When the browser tells its user in a red font that "this site is not secure", quite a few people are going to reconsider doing any kind of payment-involving business with that website. You don't expect all the buyers to be tech-savvy to the fullest, do you?

Exactly right -- this is about trust signaling.

The ones who are not clever are the ones who get scammed the most, and who are the most likely to go "pencil's up" when they see something that looks off.

So, yes, when selling a domain name, trust signals are key.

Also, like it or not, I do sometimes see that people discriminate against people that are not from their country. This is why we provide assistance with closing deals for folks that want that.
 
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When the browser tells its user in a red font that "this site is not secure", quite a few people are going to reconsider doing any kind of payment-involving business with that website. You don't expect all the buyers to be tech-savvy to the fullest, do you?

Hi

glad you brought that up
it's obvious that one should only conduct payments on a secure website.

since ppc's pages and the landers they provide, along with aftermarket and escrow services all have them as well, means they are already prevalent in the domainer industry and in use.

so, in the context of my reply, whether to have or not to have a SSL, is really moot point.

the point was domains were and are still being sold, without the buyer ever visiting a ppc or for sale lander where they might or might not see a SSL.

and that in the context of "promotion", there is no advantage is getting or using a SSL from one platform or provider than from another, since it has become the norm

imo...
 
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@Rob Monster I definitely agree with you on having a private lander for brandable domains.

I have test run these brandable website with one of my domain www.paywik.com and I just feel it is lost in a deep ocean. Despite the number of views I see on SH and the shortlist it gets, my brain keeps telling me those are Bots.

At the same time brandable needs awareness, brandable needs it to be promoted, is just like an artist or a musician even if the sing a good song the still need to promote it to the world.

I see brandable domains as such, since most of them are made up words and new handreg it needs promotion and these brandable website helps in promoting it, Nevertheless i still get your point and like your opinion on brandable being on its own. Just that it can limit your Chance of getting a sale
 
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@Rob Monster I definitely agree with you on having a private lander for brandable domains.

I have test run these brandable website with one of my domain www.paywik.com and I just feel it is lost in a deep ocean. Despite the number of views I see on SH and the shortlist it gets, my brain keeps telling me those are Bots.

At the same time brandable needs awareness, brandable needs it to be promoted, is just like an artist or a musician even if the sing a good song the still need to promote it to the world.

I see brandable domains as such, since most of them are made up words and new handreg it needs promotion and these brandable website helps in promoting it, Nevertheless i still get your point and like your opinion on brandable being on its own. Just that it can limit your Chance of getting a sale

Two things:

1. If your brandable is good, others will eventually agree with you. This works only on .COM or some domain hacks. For example, I own Get.Fit. We get inquiries.

2. If you add SEO content to your SSL lander, then you do get some organic traffic. We are working on
increasing that, e.g. through unique IPv4, custom DNS, etc. More to come there,.

The folks that do have their domains at Epik will see the most innovation since it is easy for us to update their DNS and WHOIS on the fly to optimize.

The problem with the marketplaces is that many of them require exclusive. I call BS on that.

Regards,
Rob
 
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Midas/Recruitment might be a keeper.

.co.uk is an active site. Try outbound to them. They might go for $500-$1500

Generally, for each of your names try to see if there are any companies for whom it would be an upgrade or even nice to have for a marketing campaign etc. Get in touch and try to sell even for very low $xxx. You might get some cash for the second round of buying. And you will get a feel what your potential clients think of the names you thought were great. Normally, it helps you with future buying.
@Rob Monster I definitely agree with you on having a private lander for brandable domains.

I have test run these brandable website with one of my domain www.paywik.com and I just feel it is lost in a deep ocean. Despite the number of views I see on SH and the shortlist it gets, my brain keeps telling me those are Bots.

At the same time brandable needs awareness, brandable needs it to be promoted, is just like an artist or a musician even if the sing a good song the still need to promote it to the world.

I see brandable domains as such, since most of them are made up words and new handreg it needs promotion and these brandable website helps in promoting it, Nevertheless i still get your point and like your opinion on brandable being on its own. Just that it can limit your Chance of getting a sale
Hence why I regged
ListBrandables // com
Someone will use it at some point I'm sure
 
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Hence why I regged
ListBrandables // com
Someone will use it at some point I'm sure

Yeah there is market value for that name and commercial usage.
 
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I hope your right 😀
May I have your view too @Rob Monster

Look at the text:

"List Brandables".

What does it say? It is a verb and a plural noun.

So, how would I use it?

I would create a tool that lets you list brandable domains plus give you the option of submitting those brandable domains into marketplaces that feature brandable names.

You could make money by collecting affiliate fees or by collecting inquiries and then contact the registrant as a broker.

The domain has potential but the work and value is in setting up the business model behind it. If it becomes a centralized place for finding/searching brandable names, it could work.

After all, the brandable market is now federated across multiple marketplaces that require they get the exclusive. That does not stop you from scraping their site and aggregating the inventory.

You're welcome. Free business model. Anyone who does it, helped make the pie bigger. Great.
 
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Look at the text:

"List Brandables".

What does it say? It is a verb and a plural noun.

So, how would I use it?

I would create a tool that lets you list brandable domains plus give you the option of submitting those brandable domains into marketplaces that feature brandable names.

You could make money by collecting affiliate fees or by collecting inquiries and then contact the registrant as a broker.

The domain has potential but the work and value is in setting up the business model behind it. If it becomes a centralized place for finding/searching brandable names, it could work.

After all, the brandable market is now federated across multiple marketplaces that require they get the exclusive. That does not stop you from scraping their site and aggregating the inventory.

You're welcome. Free business model. Anyone who does it, helped make the pie bigger. Great.
Thanks for your reply Rob it's very much appreciated. I will take everything on board and look further into it.
Gary
 
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Getting on the phone with a potential buyer is a great way to close a deal at the highest price possible. I have two domains being held by escrow.com domain holding where the payments made per month for the next year and a half provide me with a nice stream of income that more than covers all of my registration costs for my 1500 or so domains, and both of these deals were closed on the phone.

I have noticed that a lot of ridiculous offers (under $50.) have come in for my domains over the past couple months, but also some good offers, not all of which have been high enough to reach a deal, but at least not ridiculously low.

Some of the domains I hear of being sold for mid five figures I shake my head and think that I'd have not even thought to ask so much for, but assuming the reports are accurate and not B.S., more power to the sellers!
 
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Well I started 18 months ago and over the next 6 months my portfolio was 360. After a lot of reading on namepros and also bad feedback from members, I dropped over 200 to tidy up the portfolio a bit. Mostly dot coms now. Still never had a sale, lowball offer, enquiry or get spam. It's like they are invisible grrrrr.Anyone can see my portfolio from my signature.is there anyone else who has gone 18 months without a sale, enquiry, or even lowball offer ? I can't be the only one. Or can I ?

Only some good names are there.But definitely should keep the .Co.Uk one.

Please get rid of the names with 3 words(Most of them are going beyond 20 letters get mostly rid of them).Only keep the 3 words name which makes sense like really gives you some meaning to you and the end users.
 
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Only some good names are there.But definitely should keep the .Co.Uk one.

Please get rid of the names with 3 words(Most of them are going beyond 20 letters get mostly rid of them).Only keep the 3 words name which makes sense like really gives you some meaning to you and the end users.
Thank you for the feedback. I have taken it onboard and dropped the long ones.
 
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Two things:

1. If your brandable is good, others will eventually agree with you. This works only on .COM or some domain hacks. For example, I own Get.Fit. We get inquiries.

2. If you add SEO content to your SSL lander, then you do get some organic traffic. We are working on
increasing that, e.g. through unique IPv4, custom DNS, etc. More to come there,.

The folks that do have their domains at Epik will see the most innovation since it is easy for us to update their DNS and WHOIS on the fly to optimize.

The problem with the marketplaces is that many of them require exclusive. I call BS on that.

Regards,
Rob
Hmm, all what I am learning from this thread is that I truly envy @Rob Monster 's get.fit domain name .. what a nice name! Wish it could be mine, but most probably it will not go for cheap :)
 
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Thanks for your reply Rob it's very much appreciated. I will take everything on board and look further into it.
Gary

Domain is just 1 of 20+ components needed for a successful business. Just because you have a suitable name, don't assume you can start even a website. Do you have experience in websites, security, coding etc? If you outsource, do you know how to write up the scope and manage the project? Do you have a team? Do you know if the brandable markets will be willing to work with you? Are you going to charge for the service? If yes, would people pay? If no, how will you monetize? And if all that works, is ListBrandables even the best option for that project or you are better off finding a better name like ListBrands, ListDomains, DomainList, BrandList, BrandableList, Listed, WeList, Listable, Listing, Listings, ListNames, NameList etc.
 
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Hmm, all what I am learning from this thread is that I truly envy @Rob Monster 's get.fit domain name .. what a nice name! Wish it could be mine, but most probably it will not go for cheap :)

That's funny -- happy to work with a capable broker on that one. Get.Fit has nice potential. I need @domainexpert77 to tune up that landing page.
 
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Domain is just 1 of 20+ components needed for a successful business. Just because you have a suitable name, don't assume you can start even a website. Do you have experience in websites, security, coding etc? If you outsource, do you know how to write up the scope and manage the project? Do you have a team? Do you know if the brandable markets will be willing to work with you? Are you going to charge for the service? If yes, would people pay? If no, how will you monetize? And if all that works, is ListBrandables even the best option for that project or you are better off finding a better name like ListBrands, ListDomains, DomainList, BrandList, BrandableList, Listed, WeList, Listable, Listing, Listings, ListNames, NameList etc.
With respect you could say that about any domain name. There are always alternative's and options
 
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With respect you could say that about any domain name. There are always alternative's and options

I agree. This is not about your name. This is caution not to fall into a development trap when you are not ready. Even a great name might have a better alternative that might make sense if total investment into project is large enough.
 
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Strange, I have the same situation, no sales/inquires for the last 3 months
 
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So you have 350 domains if my math is correct.

The accepted turnover rate is about 1-2% a year when it comes to passive end user sales.
That would be about 3.5 to 7 a year on average.

I would say your previous sales of a 3/month are more of an outlier than no sales in a month.

Sales are just streaky. I own 5K+ domains and that is still the case.
I know people who own way more domains than me and it is still streaky.

It is just how it works out with high upside/low liquidity assets.

Brad

5k domains!!! Wow amazing!
 
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