Discuss your Epik Experience!

All good points here.

The same exact group thats in the Whats going on with Rob thread debating back and forth (empty speeching) have moved the conversation onto here.
Kindly stay over there, you're annoying us all, no one wants to read your non-constructive BS.
You literally stopped posting there, came here and wrote 3 pages of BS in 1 day.

Windoms said:

The same exact group thats in the Whats going on with Rob thread debating back and forth (empty speeching) have moved the conversation onto here.
Kindly stay over there, you're annoying us all, no one wants to read your non-constructive BS.
You literally stopped posting there, came here and wrote 3 pages of BS in 1 day.

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I hope you are not referring to me.

This thread has devolved into nagging, you guys don't have anything more productive to do than guess why someone would want a product you don't want to buy or need?

TCK said:

There is no such thing as “forever registration”. Get it through your head. If I offered it to you for 199, limited time offer, would you jump on it? It’s snake oil.

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Live and let live bud, you sound like a nagging wife telling people what they should be doing. Go debate your feelings elsewhere.

Oh look! You have a domainer product on your signature, what a surprise. Outdated from 2009 it was cool, now it looks like a template not worth $40.

TCK said:

You are going to lengths to defend it. Sounds like you are pretty certain this is good service and are recommending it.

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If I had a very important or valuable domain I wouldn't mind coughing up the $399 dollars to get some peace of mind even though there might be a little risk involved with Forever Domains, as I said before it's the price that makes all the difference. IMO

Rob Monster said:

Even if the registry goes up, they are either (1) fully insulated from that increase OR (2) we refund them their purchase

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In case of refund, shouldn't it also include some interest or anything as a premium? I am unsure why would a domainer order such a service, but an enduser, theoretically speaking, may. He is not necessary aware what registry is or what icant is. But he will see the following - I ordered something, it was not delivered, yes there is a refund, but I provided a free credit to somebody, why?

Also, like any company, Epik may go out of business. Rob may also decide to sell Epik someday, and the new owner may be rogue (so the customers will start transferring away). How would such a thing will be handled in all the legal terms? It is likely that the registrant will be forced to either a) deal with a new "rogue" owner OR b) transfer the domain away (without any refunds).

DanSanchez said:

This thread has devolved into nagging, you guys don't have anything more productive to do than guess why someone would want a product you don't want to buy or need?


Live and let live bud, you sound like a nagging wife telling people what they should be doing. Go debate your feelings elsewhere.

Oh look! You have a domainer product on your signature, what a surprise. Outdated from 2009 it was cool, now it looks like a template not worth $40.

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Are you also working for Epik? How many posts defending Epik or likes does it take for you to get a discounted registration?

That's fine if you don't want to listen to common sense. I have better ways to use my time instead of giving you free advice that can potentially prevent a catastrophe.

TCK said:

Are you also working for Epik? How many posts defending Epik or likes does it take for you to get a discounted registration?

That's fine if you don't want to listen to common sense. I have better ways to use my time instead of giving you free advise that can potentially prevent a catastrophe.

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What a child you are, look at your website man. You can't even get the SSL right on ANY of the pages. Please focus internally, what can you improve for yourself? Your advise is not free! It has cost many people and this forum countless hours of reading to the point of wanting to ignore you. All pointless diatribe to discourage one or two people from doing what they thought was best for themselves? What an impactful life you live.

Your common sense is different from others, there is no reason to continue making the same point and berate others that disagree with you. If you don't want to work with Epik, then don't. Your accusations aren't even worth addressing buddy.

Windoms said:

The same exact group thats in the Whats going on with Rob thread debating back and forth (empty speeching) have moved the conversation onto here.
Kindly stay over there, you're annoying us all, no one wants to read your non-constructive BS.
You literally stopped posting there, came here and wrote 3 pages of BS in 1 day.

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So you can't discuss Epik products in a thread called "Discuss your Epik experience"?

DanSanchez said:

What a child you are, look at your website man. You can't even get the SSL right on ANY of the pages. Please focus internally, what can you improve for yourself? Your advise is not free! It has cost many people and this forum countless hours of reading to the point of wanting to ignore you. All pointless diatribe to discourage one or two people from doing what they thought was best for themselves? What an impactful life you live.

Your common sense is different from others, there is no reason to continue making the same point and berate others that disagree with you. If you don't want to work with Epik, then don't. Your accusations aren't even worth addressing buddy.

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I view yours and Rob's dislikes of my posts as badges of honor. And anyone that does not have truth, facts, or reason on their side downgrades to personal attacks. Thats what I am seeing from you and Rob in recent posts.

TCK said:

Are you also working for Epik? How many posts defending Epik or likes does it take for you to get a discounted registration?

That's fine if you don't want to listen to common sense. I have better ways to use my time instead of giving you free advice that can potentially prevent a catastrophe.

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Seriously you are very annoying to every reasonable person following this thread. I hope you are not in anyway thinking you have a product that is somehow in competition with Epik? If you do, then your problem is beyond remedy, because your so called DomainMarketPro is nothing but a 3rd level joke.

TCK said:

I view yours and Rob's dislikes of my posts as badges of honor. And anyone that does not have truth, facts, or reason on their side downgrades to personal attacks. Thats what I am seeing from you and Rob in recent posts.

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You don't "have reason, truth or facts" you simply use them in life. There is nothing personal about analyzing the garbage you spew vs the garbage you deliver in your work. I haven't seen a single sign of reason in your arguments, only a personal vendetta to derail a productive conversation. I'm glad my dislikes serve in some positive way in your life, truly hope the best for you. Now get back to improving your site before I start a thread critiquing the lack of effort you put into your work vs the ambitionless pursuit for nagging without purpose.

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You don't "have reason, truth or facts" you simply use them in life. There is nothing personal about analyzing the garbage you spew vs the garbage you deliver in your work. I haven't seen a single sign of reason in your arguments, only a personal vendetta to derail a productive conversation. I'm glad my dislikes serve in some positive way in your life, truly hope the best for you. Now get back to improving your site before I start a thread critiquing the lack of effort you put into your work vs the ambitionless pursuit for nagging without purpose.

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Yep, this thread has officially entered the level of a sewer. I am out of here. Enjoy your champagne and watch out for the rats.

TCK said:

Yep, this thread has officially entered the level of a sewer. I am out of here. Enjoy your champagne and watch out for the rats.

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Wonderful, please don't forget to remove this blatant lie of a statement from your signature:

Domain Market Pro offers the best tools to sell more domains and create a recurring revenue stream.

*sips*

PEACE please

Guys, why not to use "ignore" forum feature instead? Or discuss non-Epik related issues in PMs? This thread is, indeed, about Epik. I am not Epik customer, but, nevertheless, consider this thread as somewhat educational. With offtopic posts, it is not easy to follow. Nothing personal...

DanSanchez said:

Wonderful, please don't forget to remove this blatant lie of a statement from your signature:

Domain Market Pro offers the best tools to sell more domains and create a recurring revenue stream.

*sips*

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You know, if I was someone else, I would report this post of yours above as off-topic.

However, I am extremely confident in the present quality and the future of our software. So such vein attacks have no effect.

Final thoughts on this.

I understand the annual renewal thing now. At first I thought it's 10 years, then when 10 years is up, renewed for another 10 years, when it's renewed annually. Got it.

Reminded me of a couple of past things.

MusicMatch Jukebox was the best media player back in the day, so much so I actually bought a lifetime subscription. Yahoo bought it, messed with it, killed it. My lifetime subscription lasted 2 years, never got a refund.

My first domains ever purchased were for affiliate marketing purposes, around 1999. I really got into domaining about 10 years, 2009. When I read the forums there was a lot of Moniker this, Moniker that. Moniker was the "domainer's registrar" I came to find out it was mostly because of who was running it. That person left I believe and then they went downhill, according to some long-time users. How often do you hear about Moniker being a top registrar nowadays?

Back to the Forever stuff, it just looks like auto-renewal to me. I can get auto-renewal at every registrar I've ever used, just have to click a button. With these, I can even turn it off at will. It gives me flexibility. I can also take the domain to any other registrar out here. With this Forever deal, it has to stay at Epik.

Companies go out of business, they get bought. People running things pass away, get fired, quit, move on (see Moniker example) things change. The 47 year I'm talking about is because my renewals are at $8.47. That $399 is just 1 domain. 10 domains almost $4,000. I could use that money and buy some nice domains in the Aftermarket. I understand that money can be taken and used for other projects, discounts on domains etc.

So for domainers it doesn't make sense (to me) to pay $399 which has to stay at 1 registrar, when you can simply put it on auto-renew anywhere else or just do it manually. No domainer is holding domains for 47 years.

Windoms said:

F*** *FF!
Not from Rob, not from epik.
FROM US!

@Eric Lyon come on!

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DanSanchez said:

This thread has devolved into nagging, you guys don't have anything more productive to do than guess why someone would want a product you don't want to buy or need?


Live and let live bud, you sound like a nagging wife telling people what they should be doing. Go debate your feelings elsewhere.

Oh look! You have a domainer product on your signature, what a surprise. Outdated from 2009 it was cool, now it looks like a template not worth $40.

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This type of nonsense. Again, it's a forum, open discussion. This isn't a, you can only say nice things thread. And most of this stuff is simply talking about the product, I'm learning how it actually works. When you guys come in with this type of stuff, it's actually off topic. In your head, I think you feel it's helping, when it's not. These posts always come off as trying to hide something, run cover etc. Like a "We must defend Rob/Epik at all costs type of deal. When it's basic conversation that's had with other registrars/products as well. You're actually trying to stop discussion or change the subject. And you can always put people on ignore. I myself want to see the block forum/thread add-on finally added to NP.

Have few domains over at Epik, never faced any problems so far.

It's important to note that up to now I have been referring to Forever Domains in .com ; When it comes to other TLDs obviously the price might be higher according to each registry's registration and renewal charges and then it's up to each domain owner to justify if this is a good deal for them or not.


Also it might be a good idea to mention the "10 year ongoing safety net" and the actual length of the commitment from Epik in the small print so that end users will know exactly what to expect beyond the use of the word "Forever" as a branding tool.

I assume that the " Forever Domain " contract has to be renewed whether it's 25 , 50, or 100 years in the future. Am I wrong.

Ok first, don’t think this has been addressed:

They lowered price of forever name from 420 to 399, which I appreciate. And secondly,..

Epik is a disruptor, for simply offering the service. Wish more thought this way, instead of bashing—

Change is scary, I know, crazy thing? explaining viability of “forever domain’s disadvantageous to him since he’s the first brave to venture in that field, but he does it anyway... not only cuz wants our business but because he also believes, people have a RIGHT to OWN their domains! In perpetuity!

Ridiculous, ***** ICANN 10 year limit ** BS
Go Epik! Even if other registrars copy & offer it I’ll go with you because you were the first brave enough to stand, against frankly -unjust system.

Xabial said:

Ok first, don’t think this has been addressed:

They lowered price of forever domain from $420 to $399, which I appreciate. And secondly,..

Epik is a disruptor, for simply offering the service. Wish more thought this way, instead of bashing—

Change is scary, I know, crazy thing? explaining viability of “forever domain is disadvantageous to him since he’s the first brave to venture in that field, but he does it anyway... not only cuz wants our business but because he also believes, people have a RIGHT to OWN their domains! In perpetuity!

Ridiculous, ***** ICAAN 10 year limit ** BS
Go Epik! Even if other registrars copy & offer it I’ll go with you because you were the first brave enough to stand against frankly -unjust system.

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It's auto-renewal, there is no disrupting here. It's marketing.

I’m lazy to discuss anything related to the forevermore. pop.co/blog/why-you-cant-register-domain-name-forever/