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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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I believe that all our existing ideologies, doctrines, and philosophies have failed us both as far as humanity and the environment. As we see all social and environmental norms start to collapse around us our only chance to survive is for humanity as a whole to ascended to a higher level of existence that is guided by logic and compassion and certain Universal rights and values. If we continue to let hate, greed, lust, jealousy, promiscuity, delinquency, animosity and the many of the other negative characteristics that have been controlling our lives to prevail and continue then we will miss this last window of opportunity to save ourselves. IMO


the world is not the same
on every spot of the globe
and not everywhere is evil predominant
 
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G. Edward Griffin is still alive and well at age 87. He was fearlessly connecting dots long before I was born. Here is a gem:


40 seconds long -- and a must watch.

Kind of like labeling people that want to help those less fortunate or the environment as "Socialist". Not kind of, exactly.
 
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An so What is your World View,

people have different experiences
most experiences are based on your world view

what you focus on grows
you create your world yourself
at least you are responsible for a large portion of it




I think media is not doing us a favor in talking about every issue and problem whole day long
while not talking in the same way and amount of time
about positive news and developments
 
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And so What is your World View,


labeling people is always not the best way to treat a problem

people are complex
that's what causes the issue

we can't understand every aspect of another person
or none at all

so we put a label at them

now it's easy
and everybody knows what to do and think

but it's simply: wrong

we are too stupid
and to fast


we are unable to understand the full complexity of the inner life of another human
and of our own inner self


the main problem of humanity is:
"we against them"

people who want to manipulate the masses
use this in their favor

try to understand when you got fooled by it
you will be surprised
 
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Kind of like labeling people that want to help those less fortunate or the environment as "Socialist". Not kind of, exactly.

We need to come up with a new name that encompasses all our Universal ideals, rights, and values. We need to stop living in the past and come up with new ideas that can help humanity and this planet survive and enter the next phase of their existence. For us to be considered to be a force of good not only requires that we overcome all the humanity’s bad characteristics, but we also have to make sure that those characteristics are not passed on to the Artificial Intelligence entities and lifeforms that we are helping to create. IMO
 
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come up with new ideas that can help humanity and this planet survive and enter the next phase of their existence.

The best course program I've taken up till now for doing things like that. Can take you much beyond in usage anything like the critical thinking courses I did in university: https://www.edwddebono.com/course

For us to be considered to be a force of good not only requires that we overcome all the humanity’s bad characteristics

To be able to move forward, sometimes we need to (and need to be able to) design ways forward while leaving problems in place. Overcoming all humanity's bad characteristics could be one of those problems(?)
 
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To be able to move forward, sometimes we need to (and need to be able to) design ways forward while leaving problems in place. Overcoming all humanity's bad characteristics could be one of those problems(?)

Not unless those bad human characteristics are going to create attitudes that are going to cause more divisions, conflicts, catastrophes, and possibly more Wars. If there is no change in the status quo as far as how the World thinks and operates and if Humanity stays on the same course as before as far as continuing to cause more damage to the environment, sooner or later our World will self destruct as it is under threat from so many different fronts. The window of opportunity to take action is small and is closing fast, it will be ashamed if humanity with all it’s intellect, skills, technologies, experiences, and intelligence fails to save itself. Any logical prediction or forecast of the many different possible outcomes for our World would most likely show that the survival of humanity and this planet both require immediate and meaningful intervention and changes in our ways.

Isolationism might have its advantages and can put one country or continent temporarily ahead as it unifies people against outside threats, but since every continent is capable of damaging and destroying the World on its own it really doesn’t matter how far you advance through isolationism if people on the other side of the World can undo all your success and achievements due to their ignorance or animosity. For the humanity and this planet to survive it requires for all people to control and contain those bad characteristics that prevent them from coming together in a positive way to do some good for the World. We have to accept the fact that no one can save themselves alone without saving the whole World. IMO
 
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Not unless those bad human characteristics are going to create attitudes that are going to cause more divisions, conflicts, catastrophes, and possibly more Wars. If there is no change in the status quo as far as how the World thinks and operates and if Humanity stays on the same course as before as far as continuing to cause more damage to the environment, sooner or later our World will self destruct as it is under threat from so many different fronts. The window of opportunity to take action is small and is closing fast, it will be ashamed if humanity with all it’s intellect, skills, technologies, experiences, and intelligence fails to save itself. Any logical prediction or forecast of the many different possible outcomes for our World would most likely show that the survival of humanity and this planet both require immediate and meaningful intervention and changes in our ways.

Isolationism might have its advantages and can put one country or continent temporarily ahead as it unifies people against outside threats, but since every continent is capable of damaging and destroying the World on its own it really doesn’t matter how far you advance through isolationism if people on the other side of the World can undo all your success and achievements due to their ignorance or animosity. For the humanity and this planet to survive it requires for all people to control and contain those bad characteristics that prevent them from coming together in a positive way to do some good for the World. We have to accept the fact that no one can save themselves alone without saving the whole World. IMO

and now?
 
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I also have had a change of heart on the topic of "hate speech". I used to parrot the party line of "free speech is speech that you hate". I have actually changed my position on that topic slightly.

Its good to see you have changed your view on hate speech.
 
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We need to come up with a new name that encompasses all our Universal ideals, rights, and values.

Why come up with a new "name"? Why not adopt the ideas that are good from any side and reject the bad ones. You should be able to disagree without being labeled. I hate labels.

The problem with labels is that they psychologically force people to act or think a certain way. The idea that if you agree with some of the ideas of the progressive left, then you must agree with all of the ideas and become a progressive leftist. Same if you like some ideas of conservatism. Must you become a conservative?

The only ideas that should be categorically rejected are those that encourage hate or hurt of fellow humans and that go against the norms of society. That fly in the face of universally accepted behavior shared by all cultures and spirituality. Some of the more recent posts by Rob seem to indicate he has evolved in this area.
 
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For the humanity and this planet to survive it requires for all people to control and contain those bad characteristics that prevent them from coming together in a positive way to do some good for the World.

You seem to have gone from overcoming humanity's bad characteristics in your 1st post I quoted - "requires that we overcome all the humanity’s bad characteristics" - to controlling and containing them in this next post. You were meaning that in your 1st post?

We have to accept the fact that no one can save themselves alone without saving the whole World. IMO

You're meaning enlightened self-interest? That's one concept for moving forward that I could agree with as far as getting some results.
 
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Why come up with a new "name"? Why not adopt the ideas that are good from any side and reject the bad ones. You should be able to disagree without being labeled. I hate labels.

The problem with labels is that they psychologically force people to act or think a certain way. The idea that if you agree with some of the ideas of the progressive left, then you must agree with all of the ideas and become a progressive leftist. Same if you like some ideas of conservatism. Must you become a conservative?

The only ideas that should be categorically rejected are those that encourage hate or hurt of fellow humans and that go against the norms of society. That fly in the face of universally accepted behavior shared by all cultures and spirituality. Some of the more recent posts by Rob seem to indicate he has evolved in this area.


Well, when you don’t quite fit with any of the existing ideologies, doctrines, and philosophies that seem to no longer be able to adequately address all the problems in the World then obviously you have to find a new name other than leftist, right, progressive, conservative, liberal, capitalist, communist, fundamentalist, or any of the other old labels. If everyone chooses to base their actions on logic, compassion, and the Universal rights and values that we can all respect and believe in then that means that the World has chosen to combine all that is good from the many different labels that exist now and reject the parts that have been holding humanity back from ascending to a higher level of existence. IMO
 
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Well, when you don’t quite fit with any of the existing ideologies, doctrines, and philosophies that seem to no longer be able to adequately address all the problems in the World then obviously you have to find a new name other than leftist, right, progressive, conservative, liberal, capitalist, communist, fundamentalist, or any of the other old labels.

Who chooses the new name/label and decides on what ideals it encompasses?
 
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Who chooses the new name/label and decides on what ideals it encompasses?

Those who base their actions on common sense that is based on logic and compassion and in the future with some help from AI that is a force for good. IMO
 
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Those who base their actions on common sense that is based on logic and compassion and in the future with some help from AI that is a force for good. IMO

This sounds very Orwellian to me. I wouldn't trust other people to create a belief system for me to follow blindly. As we can see from politics and religion, that doesn't work and only repeats the problem, perhaps to even a higher degree. As long as selfishness and greed are part of the human fabric. You can't erase that.
 
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long thread :xf.grin:
I don't understand what the people here are asking about @Rob Monster . seems like he's kind and helpful.

Is this about gab.com moving to epik?
I know about the tragedy at gab, but only accepting domain transfers I think it's fair and it doesn't matter why it should be at issue.

All you have to ask is why other registrars don't want to accept gab.com. right?
 
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long thread :xf.grin:
I don't understand what the people here are asking about @Rob Monster . seems like he's kind and helpful.

I tried to keep it on topic when people, especially Rob, kept posting things that distracted from the OP.

Now it is a free-for-all thread. Doesn't seem to bother the moderators.
 
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This sounds very Orwellian to me. I wouldn't trust other people to create a belief system for me to follow blindly. As we can see from politics and religion, that doesn't work and only repeats the problem, perhaps to even a higher degree. As long as selfishness and greed are part of the human fabric. You can't erase that.

You are talking about the old systems, you need to grasp the new ways of thinking that is needed going forward. No one is going to be forced into anything that one person or group thinks is right, it is logic and compassion that will guide us to the right path. IMO
 
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You are talking about the old systems, you need to grasp the new ways of thinking that is needed going forward. No one is going to be forced into anything that one person or group thinks is right, it is logic and compassion that will guide us to the right path. IMO

Where do you find these new ways of thinking and who controls that thinking? You can't force a new way of thinking on people. So how will you get people to follow that?
 
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Now it is a free-for-all thread. Doesn't seem to bother the moderators.

You can't engage in a conversation one minute and then complain about it the next.
 
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You can't engage in a conversation one minute and then complain about it the next.

Not complaining (anymore), just stating a fact.
 
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