Undeveloped.com Experience

Jurgen Wolf said:

Please properly configure ns1.dan.com and ns2.dan.com
NS and SOA records in response... They point to undeveloped.com domain.

Also I don't understand why you set MX record...
What purpose???

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Reza said:

We never said to any user to use ns1.dan.com and ns2.dan.com. Please don't switch and keep using ns1.undeveloped.com and ns2.undeveloped.com

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Jurgen Wolf said:

Yes, you haven't said this here.
But in your panel when clicking Nameservers button - exactly ns1.dan.com and ns2.dan.com are displayed.

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Jurgen Wolf said:

I see MX record even using old configuration.
Why you set this record? I don't need any email monetization or something like that.

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Reza said:

You're absolutely right, that shouldn't be the case. We'll edit the button right away.

The MX records are always disabled on parking for security reasons.

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Jurgen Wolf said:

???

dig -t MX example.tld @ns1.undeveloped.com

And you will see it...

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Hello, hope someone can help me.

I'm trying to point all my .it domains to undeveloped landing pages, but the DNS change request sent to the 4 different Registrars holding them (OVH, Aruba, Nidoma.com, Match.it) are all refused (no problem with .es or .com domains).
When asked why they refused the NS change, one of them told me:

Dear customer, regarding your request to change the authoritative
nameservers, I inform you that following verification at the link dns-check.nic . it, the Italian Authority for the registration of
domains with .IT extension ( Nic-IT) provided a negative result, for the
following reason:

Check that the nameservers present in the SOA, NS and MX records, if
present, are not CNAME

Name Details Test status
ns1.undeveloped.com. SUCCESS
mx.mydomain.it. Unresolvable host mx.mydomain.it. FAILED
ns2.undeveloped.com. SUCCESS

Below are the details of the configuration error:

<test name = "CNAMEHostTest" status = "FAILED">
<detail name = "ns1.undeveloped.com." status = "SUCCEEDED" />
<detail name = "mx.mydomain.it." status = "FAILED" queryId =
"11">Unresolvable host mx.mydomain.it. </detail>
<detail name = "ns2.undeveloped.com." status = "SUCCEEDED" /> </test>

But the Undeveloped customer support told me that they have almost 14.000 .it domains pointing to their name servers and all are working good so the problem is not on their side.

And here I am and don't know in what direction investigate more... any help would be really appreciated.

Thank you

Embrand said:

The layout is fine. I also like the logo, and I think it is good they removed .COM from DAN. But I think the tagline should convey that they are about buying and selling domain names - not just transferring them.

Sedo has "Buy. Park. Sell. Domains". That pretty much says it all. Undeveloped's old tagline was also good, I think. But I don't remember exactly how it went.

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I agree that it should convey that message.
But the tagline should be focused on gaining ownership of a domain name (acquisition). Rather than a marketplace like sedo or ebay.

I think something like fast & easy domain acquisitions (or any synonym) could be OK.
But then keep in mind that they ambition to be big on domain transfers, even among registrars and other marketplaces.
So I think the current tagline is very good.
And the buyer understands it.

blu001 said:

Name Details Test status
ns1.undeveloped.com. SUCCESS
mx.mydomain.it. Unresolvable host mx.mydomain.it. FAILED
ns2.undeveloped.com. SUCCESS

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Why would you use mx.mydomain.it ? You only need two of their nameservers for Undeveloped Dan.

Don Gondon said:

Why would you use mx.mydomain.it ? You only need two of their nameservers for Undeveloped Dan.

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that is the output of the verification test
the name servers used are ns1.undeveloped.com and ns2.undeveloped.com

please note that I'm changing the name servers and I'm not changing specific DNS records, so I'm doing nothing on my side with mx record

Then that is an issue with your registrar, if the extra server is being added on its own. Try to change nameservers to something else, save them, then change back to undeveloped, if that does not work, you need to contact their support and explain that you use only two nameservers and this "mx.mydomain.it" is an error.

I'm now using efty name servers without problems with all the 4 different Registrars where I have my .it domains... all of them do not allow me to change name servers to undeveloped for the same reason

Undeveloped customer support keeps telling me their name servers do not have problems (one week now and 4 or 5 emails)

I'm stuck in the middle

blu001 said:

Undeveloped customer support keeps telling me their name servers do not have problems (one week now and 4 or 5 emails)

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No, not Undeveloped support. The issue is with your registrar, you say you add two nameservers, but as you can see, their system erroneously adds one more, which shouldn't be here, as it prevents your settings from passing validation and of course nothing works.

joro001 said:

Great to see the innovation and congrats on the progress and hard work @undeveloped.

Perhaps i'm the only one but I loved the old green buy it now buttons I feel the new ones are much duller and less eye catching. Also I think the price/domain was bolder before or at least that was what I thought it used to be.

Another idea is to perhaps make more of the IBM partnership on the landing pages as that will engender trust especially with the USA market.

Other points about getting rid of the links in the footer etc. I concur with.

Just a few early thoughts.

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I liked the old look and feel much better

if I could choose dan versus undeveloped
I would choose undeveloped

NYJimbo said:

Another thing: Many people are saying that DAN being a 3L lends credibility to their brand. I think that's nonsense.

Don't get me wrong, I love this platform, but end users don't give a damn about the price of 3L's and what it means to DOMAINERS.

Here is a question: How many of you use online services that are 3 letters long ? How about end users you know, how many of them use 3L named sites every day ?

Humans (not us, we are droids) relate better to a name that is warm and fuzzy or a name they feel lends itself to the service. DAN does none of that.

If DAN is the choice, okay, but remember that humans use this service to buy domains and need to feel that company is something they can trust as being user friendly. "DAN" just does not convey that as it is right now.

Keep "DAN" but make it more obvious of your purpose to END USERS and make them feel good about using you. Right now it feels like it did when I first got into Unix 25 years ago and the nerds didn't want us there. Hell, even Sedo tries to make it friendly with smiling douchebags, lots of text and nice colors.

Other than the name, I love the improvements.

I have spoken, your mileage may vary, Merry Christmas, whatever.

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you miss explaining to the visitor
that undeveloped is now dan

when you established a tiny bit of trust
form the undeveloped brand in the public
versus GoDaddy / sedo
you have to start from scratch
using uncommented dan.com

furthermore, you use a different design
which is not a smooth transition to a new name


I think you didn't improve the landing page of the domain
( actually, I think you messed it )

that doesn't look good to me

Don Gondon said:

No, not Undeveloped support. The issue is with your registrar, you say you add two nameservers, but as you can see, their system erroneously adds one more, which shouldn't be here, as it prevents your settings from passing validation and of course nothing works.

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Are you telling me that the problem is the same on four (4!!!) different Reigtrars?
And all of them (4!!!) have problems only with undeveloped name servers?

if you read my first post in this page you can see, on the quoted posts, that someone other as noted a problem with mx record on undeveloped name servers...

@Reza you need to add a option to know who the buyer is going blink like sedo isn't great need to have a idea who the buyer is

blu001 said:

Are you telling me that the problem is the same on four (4!!!) different Reigtrars?
And all of them (4!!!) have problems only with undeveloped name servers?

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I can say for sure you have problem wherever the part that I quoted above comes from.
There has to be two nameservers for the domain, and your info shows, that mx.mydomain.it is in place of the second nameserver.

I don't know, if its the same for all 4 registrars, but what you've posted above – certainly not an Undeveloped problem. What does check with other registrars say? Can you post the screenshots from your registrar accounts, where domains' NS are managed?

@Reza

I see no way to remove the background image
that was nice for me with undeveloped
and now looks f* .. no good

frank-germany said:

I see no way to remove the background image

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In your settings bring up page where the images are. Then click and hold on the background image. A popup with delete will then appear.

If you go into your Settings->Seller Profile, you will see the background image. Hover over background image and it shows an option to delete

frank-germany said:

@Reza

I see no way to remove the background image
that was nice for me with undeveloped
and now looks f* .. no good


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domainventure said:

If you go into your Settings->Seller Profile, you will see the background image. Hover over background image and it shows an option to delete

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@Bob Hawkes
@domainventure


thank you
done


that was not obvious to me

frank-germany said:

@Bob Hawkes
@domainventure


thank you
done


that was not obvious to me

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now it looks much better ..
( I hate it )

Yes, as I already said above - Undeveloped is using the absolutely unnecessary MX record for their parked domains...

ANSWER SECTION:
example.tld. 3600 IN MX 10 mx.example.tld.

And I don't like this new font...
It is too narrow on 1920x1080 @ 96 dpi.
At least on my 23" screen.

frank-germany said:

now it looks much better ..
( I hate it )

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If they add a light grey or green background to the domain info container then it makes for a better default look.





I did mess about in Dev Tools with my own background choice and a change to font sizes and colours and ended up with something I liked.

Setting up a few text styles and having a script read the length of the domain and applying said style to the element would provide a means to better display short, medium and loooong names. (I think I set the first font-size to 4rem and the other to 2.5rem)



Did a mobile test too and removed the overly large top padding. (why is that there on smaller devices?)



In my opinion a default look with a gradient background like above but using DAN colours could make for a very nice looking lander. Accommodating custom backgrounds is the tricky part, although allowing the seller to select from a selection of styles or even allow them to input their own text and link colours could be an answer?

I'm no designer or anything, I just like to mess around and tweak things sometimes.

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Update: Added a DAN-coloured gradient background and my own for others to use on this post.

domains21 said:

If they add a light grey or green background to the domain info container then it makes for a better default look.

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I did mess about in Dev Tools with my own background choice and a change to font sizes and colours and ended up with something I liked.

Setting up a few text styles and having a script read the length of the domain and applying said style to the element would provide a means to better display short, medium and loooong names. (I think I set the first font-size to 4rem and the other to 2.5rem)

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Did a mobile test too and removed the overly large top padding. (why is that there on smaller devices?)

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In my opinion a default look with a gradient background like above but using DAN colours could make for a very nice looking lander. Accommodating custom backgrounds is the tricky part, although allowing the seller to select from a selection of styles or even allow them to input their own text and link colours could be an answer?

I'm no designer or anything, I just like to mess around and tweak things sometimes.

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You should remove the background until they fix the issue, the font became green when you set one, it won't stay white http://prntscr.com/oajfft http://prntscr.com/oajg6r

@xeroox, I know that is the case as all I was doing with my examples above was a local to my machine editing of the webpage's code to try out some ideas. I may try playing with some backgrounds as it stands to see what can work with it.

In fact that plain light grey background could be a start!

Don Gondon said:

I can say for sure you have problem wherever the part that I quoted above comes from.
There has to be two nameservers for the domain, and your info shows, that mx.mydomain.it is in place of the second nameserver.

I don't know, if its the same for all 4 registrars, but what you've posted above – certainly not an Undeveloped problem. What does check with other registrars say? Can you post the screenshots from your registrar accounts, where domains' NS are managed?

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Don, the name servers are only two: ns1.undeveloped.com and ns2.undeveloped.com

the lines you are talking of are from the verification tool of the .it Registry (dns-check.nic .it) and are referred to the undeveloped name servers, nothing to do with my Registrars

Jurgen Wolf said:

Yes, as I already said above - Undeveloped is using the absolutely unnecessary MX record for their parked domains...

ANSWER SECTION:
example.tld. 3600 IN MX 10 mx.example.tld.

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Thank you Jurgen, maybe this could be the problem

blu001 said:

Don, the name servers are only two: ns1.undeveloped.com and ns2.undeveloped.com

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Could you PM me a domain name to check?