advice IP Address Got Blacklisted By Doing Outbound Marketing - Help!

Stop spams!

I spend a few minutes each day reporting every unsolicited email to
SpamCop.net
I don’t care if there is an UnSubscribe link because many of these links are merely used by the spammer to confirm the validity of your email address. I still report. Takes but a few seconds per email to open all headers + content (“source”) copy/paste into SpamCop and report. SpamCop parses the genuine (not forged or camouflaged) origins of the email instantly and sends out the reports to not just the sender’s ISP but to the backbone - administrator - of the ISP / email.

I actually did click one of these unsubscribe links a couple weeks ago on spam received at one of my email addresses and afterwards identically created similarly crappy spam started to flow in even more via a different ISP.

Some ISPs take these spam reports seriously and shut the offender down after just one report and some seem to do nothing anytime soon and allow the spam to continue for a long while.

Would I take the time to report every unsolicited offer I receive to purchase some crappy domain? Well, if received at one of my yahoo or gmail emails probably not - yahoo and gmail seem to do a good job of either deferring such emails (not even allowing their receipt) or at least directing them to the junk folder. But with my business emails (emails at my own domains - I run dozens of websites and businesses) I’ll report if not every spam no matter what it is at least one of each type, every day.

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By the way, long before your isp or server is blacklisted your emails might already be being deferred especially by outfits like yahoo which is actually in many cases overly sensitive with blocking incoming emails.

johnnie018 said:

Stop spams!

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First Off, I'm not spamming!

Here is how Spamhaus.org Defines Spamming:

The word "Spam" as applied to Email means "Unsolicited Bulk Email".

Unsolicited means that the Recipient has not granted verifiable permission for the message to be sent. Bulk means that the message is sent as part of a larger collection of messages, all having substantively identical content.

A message is Spam only if it is both Unsolicited and Bulk.

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I'm not using any software to send emails & all emails are sent manually. Further, they are not sent in Bulk by buying some list from somewhere but rather each email is sent individually after making sure that my domain will add value to their business.

Email is only sent to those who are targeted to the domain that I'm selling. To give you an example, there is this Big Time Advertising Agency (Creating ads for the like of Adidas, Nike etc) who are currently using the .co version & I own the .com

They have shown interest & hopefully something will come out of it.

xynames said:

I spend a few minutes each day reporting every unsolicited email to
SpamCop.net
I don’t care if there is an UnSubscribe link because many of these links are merely used by the spammer to confirm the validity of your email address. I still report. Takes but a few seconds per email to open all headers + content (“source”) copy/paste into SpamCop and report. SpamCop parses the genuine (not forged or camouflaged) origins of the email instantly and sends out the reports to not just the sender’s ISP but to the backbone - administrator - of the ISP / email.

I actually did click one of these unsubscribe links a couple weeks ago on spam received at one of my email addresses and afterwards identically created similarly crappy spam started to flow in even more via a different ISP.

Some ISPs take these spam reports seriously and shut the offender down after just one report and some seem to do nothing anytime soon and allow the spam to continue for a long while.

Would I take the time to report every unsolicited offer I receive to purchase some crappy domain? Well, if received at one of my yahoo or gmail emails probably not - yahoo and gmail seem to do a good job of either deferring such emails (not even allowing their receipt) or at least directing them to the junk folder. But with my business emails (emails at my own domains - I run dozens of websites and businesses) I’ll report if not every spam no matter what it is at least one of each type, every day.

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By the way, long before your isp or server is blacklisted your emails might already be being deferred especially by outfits like yahoo which is actually in many cases overly sensitive with blocking incoming emails.

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Nothing wrong with reporting Spam, but outbound marketing is not the same as spamming if done correctly. The entire point here is to look for prospects whose businesses will gain value by acquiring your domains.

The open rate on my emails is pretty high & that includes "outfits like yahoo" where my emails are getting opened without any problem.

howudoin8 said:

outbound marketing is not the same as spamming if done correctly.

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Apparently to somebody it was spam. This is long debated but I find it interesting that you got hit while others outbound all the time and never mention this happening,

Best to only outbound on exact match domains and honestly if they want those they will find you. There is a reason most do not outbound. It’s generally not lucrative and it’s risky. What happened to you is an example of the risk.

karmaco said:

Apparently to somebody it was spam. This is long debated but I find it interesting that you got hit while others outbound all the time and never mention this happening,

Best to only outbound on exact match domains and honestly if they want those they will find you. There is a reason most do not outbound. It’s generally not lucrative and it’s risky. What happened to you is an example of the risk.

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I guess the reason I got hit was because I didn't added something to the tune of "If you don't want to get another email from me, then simply respond with 'Unsubscribe'" (I definitely would not contact them again if this happened)

I think this line would have assured them that they can stop the communication whenever they want.

There are members like @rohitgoyal who are exceptionally successful with outbound marketing. Infact he recently claimed to sell about 50 domains per Month through outbound. So its not as if its not lucrative but rather you just have to be ready to put in all the effort & do it in the right fashion.

howudoin8 said:

Hello Community,

I have about 25 domains registered for outbound marketing

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WOW, 25 domains registered just for outbound marketing. How many email have you sent?

kam said:

WOW, 25 domains registered just for outbound marketing. How many email have you sent?

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Just Sent around 50, so barely 2 emails per address on average.

howudoin8 said:

First Off, I'm not spamming!

Here is how


I'm not using any software to send emails & all emails are sent manually. Further, they are not sent in Bulk by buying some list from somewhere but rather each email is sent individually after making sure that my domain will add value to their business.

Email is only sent to those who are targeted to the domain that I'm selling. To give you an example, there is this Big Time Advertising Agency (Creating ads for the like of Adidas, Nike etc) who are currently using the .co version & I own the .com

They have shown interest & hopefully something will come out of it.

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Funny man, you convince yourself of this?...shame. You send bulk email and now your IP is blocked! OK not spammer! Definitely not spammer! Inncoent! Big mistake make by spamhaus!

howudoin8 said:

I guess the reason I got hit was because I didn't added something to the tune of "If you don't want to get another email from me, then simply respond with 'Unsubscribe'" (I definitely would not contact them again if this happened)

I think this line would have assured them that they can stop the communication whenever they want.

There are members like @rohitgoyal who are exceptionally successful with outbound marketing. Infact he recently claimed to sell about 50 domains per Month through outbound. So its not as if its not lucrative but rather you just have to be ready to put in all the effort & do it in the right fashion.

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HA ha, unsubscribe link, where did they subscribe to get your messages?

Rohitgoyal probably have 1000 email account. Maybe buy some on eBay and russia server and keep spamss going?

karmaco said:

Apparently to somebody it was spam. This is long debated but I find it interesting that you got hit while others outbound all the time and never mention this happening,

Best to only outbound on exact match domains and honestly if they want those they will find you. There is a reason most do not outbound. It’s generally not lucrative and it’s risky. What happened to you is an example of the risk.

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Only people who think is ok is other spammers, everyone else knows spam. Like people on here who push CBD drug names and say is healthy.

Are you on a shared IP? If so, maybe someone else on it triggered the blacklisting.

johnnie018 said:

HA ha, unsubscribe link, where did they subscribe to get your messages?

Rohitgoyal probably have 1000 email account. Maybe buy some on eBay and russia server and keep spamss going?

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Read my post before commenting!

I never said to give an "unsubscribe link" in my email but rather "simply respond with 'Unsubscribe'".

johnnie018 said:

Only people who think is ok is other spammers, everyone else knows spam. Like people on here who push CBD drug names and say is healthy.

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If you can't differentiate between outbound marketing & Spamming, then this thread is not for you so move along!

As far as CBD is concerned, here are a few NIH studies highlighting its benefits:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6043845/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6143706/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6161644/

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Are you on a shared IP? If so, maybe someone else on it triggered the blacklisting.

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Blacklisted IP is my ISP IP & not Domain Server IP.

howudoin8 said:

If you can't differentiate between outbound marketing & Spamming, then this thread is not for you so move along!

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No spammer thinks they are spam, they call something else, you call "outbound marketing" other spammer call "erection disfunction consult". Just don't say spam! Even if IP shut down still don't think they spam! Even when cops knock on door they say not spam!

Unsolicited bulk emailing is the definition of spamming. Technically any unsolicited email is spam, or put it this way, may be reported as spam.

Add to that that you have no prior business relationship with any of these recipients and what you’re doing is definitely spamming. That it’s small time - only fifty emails (this campaign anyway - sure you’ve done this before) is irrelevant. One SpamCop report and you could still get shut down. As you have been. That shutdown could extend to your ISP if you keep getting reported.

Fixating on that unsubscribe link is not going to save you from being reported and as noted, even one report might get you shut down. Savvy email recipients know that that unsubscribe link when it comes from spammers is often just used to verify the email address and might lead to even more spam, so they’re not going to click it and instead just report you.

If you’d like to vent keep posting but no one one may advise you on how to spam without repercussions, if that’s what you’re seeking here. You’ll just have to keep finding a new mail service or ISP faster than you get shut down.

It also doesn’t help if your ISP is in a country associated with spamming.

The only small bit of advice anyone could offer is to make your emails seem more personalized. Or stop sending them in bulk and only one on one. Not sure why you need to send in bulk anyway unless the domains are so general or poor that there is no specific targeted end user for them.

When most of us target end users with outbound it is because the domain is somehow an exact match or near exact match for their business or business name, and we do it one on one not bulk impersonalized spam.

howudoin8 said:

I guess the reason I got hit was because I didn't added something to the tune of "If you don't want to get another email from me, then simply respond with 'Unsubscribe'" (I definitely would not contact them again if this happened)

I think this line would have assured them that they can stop the communication whenever they want.

There are members like @rohitgoyal who are exceptionally successful with outbound marketing. Infact he recently claimed to sell about 50 domains per Month through outbound. So its not as if its not lucrative but rather you just have to be ready to put in all the effort & do it in the right fashion.

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Do you know how many emails he has to send out to get his sales? Tons. And for him it is lucrative because he has the Midas touch and can sell many a month. Average domainer would be lucky to get one a month at XXX so again- as I said-not generally lucrative.

xynames said:

Unsolicited bulk emailing is the definition of spamming. Technically any unsolicited email is spam, or put it this way, may be reported as spam.

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Technically any unsolicited email is not spam but rather Unsolicited bulk emailing is Spam!

Moreover, even a normal message can be reported as spam so nothing out of place in that.

Add to that that you have no prior business relationship with any of these recipients and what you’re doing is definitely spamming. That it’s small time - only fifty emails (this campaign anyway - sure you’ve done this before) is irrelevant. One SpamCop report and you could still get shut down. As you have been. That shutdown could extend to your ISP if you keep getting reported.

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What exactly are you smoking? Having a prior business relationship with email recipient doesn't decides as to one is spamming or not. On top of that any "business relationship" would develop after sending email & not before it (if they found your domain to be useful that is).

Additionally, don't make assumptions that I've "done this before". This 50 email campaign was my first ever & I got blacklisted on 1 out of some 100 blacklists out there. Edited by a moderator to remove vulgarity.

Fixating on that unsubscribe link is not going to save you from being reported and as noted, even one report might get you shut down. Savvy email recipients know that that unsubscribe link when it comes from spammers is often just used to verify the email address and might lead to even more spam, so they’re not going to click it and instead just report you.

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I'm not "Fixating on that unsubscribe link"! Infact, I'm not even talking about adding an unsubscribe link. I'm talking about sending a response with just 1 word "Unsubscribe"

If you’d like to vent keep posting but no one one may advise you on how to spam without repercussions, if that’s what you’re seeking here. You’ll just have to keep finding a new mail service or ISP faster than you get shut down.

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I'm not seeking advise on how to spam without repercussions! Purpose of this thread is to find the reason for being blacklisted for just sending 50 emails. So far I think it is the "unsubscribe" issue & email body was perhaps too similar even after personalization.

The only small bit of advice anyone could offer is to make your emails seem more personalized. Or stop sending them in bulk and only one on one. Not sure why you need to send in bulk anyway unless the domains are so general or poor that there is no specific targeted end user for them.

When most of us target end users with outbound it is because the domain is somehow an exact match or near exact match for their business or business name, and we do it one on one not bulk impersonalized spam.

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All my emails were personalized & were sent one by one & not in bulk. This was made clear in the OP as well so stop making assumptions & read carefully before responding!!!

Stop spamming stop excuses! Shame!

As with most of your posts you seem to have it all figured out. Really a winning attitude.

Consider my posts in this thread for others you’re evidently not interested in any posts that conflict with what you’ve already decided is true. So, why even ask?

Good luck with that spam!

If i didn't request an email from you or if I am not using your service, you are spamming. Don't do it.

STOP SPAMMING

If only Y'all that called this spam read line by line and purely know the definition of Spam,
You would definitely know he dind't Spam
The 50 emails was not in 24 hrs, there was interval,
It wasn't grouped it was personal mail to different client with different niche
Bro Even if you mistakenly spammed
It is your hustle, None of them here calling you spammer will buy the domain.
Please reach out to prospective buyer and get your money, it is your domain, you dind't steal it you actually paid for it, so please reach out to prospective buyer through any means, mail, Instagram, twitter, and try bring in funds for yourself, only make sure you do it the right way, and to the right clients.

Spammers of a feather, flock together.

xynames said:

It also doesn’t help if your ISP is in a country associated with spamming.

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