The USA Political Thread

NRATV is done
Dana Loesch is done
Mueller is going to testify
Someone spit on Eric - the dude who steals from a kids cancer charity and kills exotic wildlife for fun (spoiler: they've probably been spitting in his food for years.)
All in all, not a bad start to the week.

Another assault victim comes forward. Of course, all the victim blamers are out in force. Awesome shade she threw at him though - not sure if it was in or only halfway - hah! We've seen those small hands ...

Back to your argument!

TCK said:

Why does the US kill or attempt to kill their best leaders like Lincoln, Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Reagan

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Not the entire US, just individual whackos. Maybe those types have some psychological attraction to the bad leaders and dislike the good ones?

Worthlses trumps new position is robert mueller is the criminalhahahahahahahaha
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thinkthpot said:

trumps new position is robert mueller is the criminal

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Spin. He’s good at spin, even when it reeks of desperation.

In Putin’s Russia a statement like that would be followed up with either arresting the person on fake charges or the notorious Russian “Heart Attack.”

Thats is why we don’t like Putin or want to be like Russia. One of many reasons.

TCK said:

The media plays a role because your own two eyes can’t be in every place in the world. But your common sense can help you through the noise.

I have been alive long enough and have studied history to be pretty confident.

US/British/NATO spy agencies confirm the fact that Russia is an existential world wide threat.

Why does that perturb you? Are you upset about that?

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I don’t so much pay attention to what is going on all over the world these days, I pay close attention to what is going on in my own country,

And we have more than enough to worry about, we are getting huge resistance from Pelosi, Cortez, Omar and as it appears the Democratic “wanna be” Socialist turds that reside within the party.

So as an independent voter, and other independent voters that I know personally, we will continue to vote to keep America free as well as
“One Nation Under God”

We will continue to stand up for our rights and continue to support the effort to rid the USA of illegal immigrants and hopefully get a bunch that here on work visas to work at 7-11 the hell out of our country.

Russia poses a moderate threat at best to the USA, and that threat does not concern military confrontations.

So we Americans have enough on our plate to worry about as far as taking care of our own country.

I do agree with President Trump on the fact that we should not take care of the world, not without the country in question funding and paying the US for such actions.

Bank of America just announced they will stop financing private prison & immigrant detention companies!

Great news!

.X. said:

We will continue to stand up for our rights and continue to support the effort to rid the USA of illegal immigrants and hopefully get a bunch that here on work visas to work at 7-11 the hell out of our country.

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Unless you think that Americans are hurt by the crop picking industry being taken over by immigrants, I wouldn't worry about illegals or legal immigrants on work visas.

I don't get that reasoning when the employment rate is highest in 50 or 60 years. What do you think immigrants are doing that hurts the US? Obviously it's not the economy.

enlytend said:

Bank of America just announced they will stop financing private prison & immigrant detention companies!

Great news!

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We don’t need immigrant camps, immigrants are not US citizens, anyone who is not a US citizen does not have the rights of our constitution, so Fuck the right to a trial and the rest of the bullshit. They have no rights at all actually, they are a guest in our country at best being they have committed a crime in the first place.

All we need is a few jet planes, some law enforcement to ride on those planes, and fly those fuckers right out of our country. Simple and effective.

It’s all political shit, just like the man and child that drowned trying to cross the rio grande river, what the fuck does that have to do with the United States, we didn’t ask him to cross the river, why all the blame on the US for that incident?

Simple, Pelosi and the Democratic Party are looking to get huge sympathy from citizens and throw the blame on the President.

Those fuckers are playing a very desperate card in their efforts, another loss for the Dem party. Not only is it ridiculous of all their efforts since 2016, it is extremely cowardly as well.

TCK said:

Unless you think that Americans are hurt by the crop picking industry being taken over by immigrants, I wouldn't worry about illegals or legal immigrants on work visas.

I don't get that reasoning when the employment rate is highest in 50 or 60 years. What do you think immigrants are doing that hurts the US? Obviously it's not the economy.

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Move to Texas and I do promise you , you will change your mind on that

Immigrants from any country have exactly the same right to be in North America as did the original colonists. There is absolutely no difference. Except the big cheeses at the top making the decisions and causing misery for the declining middle class. So if you are going to pick enemies and sides, think carefully which will be in your best interests.

.X. said:

Move to Texas and I do promise you , you will change your mind in that

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I go to Texas twice a year. Does the fact that Spanish is the first language in the border towns troubling?

TCK said:

When you attack the person(s) then you have lost the argument.

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No, not when the argument mainly consists of taking said person's word for something, without sufficient supporting evidence.

TCK said:

There used to be a time when the USA was united on the subject of Russia.

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It's debatable how successful that was. In any case, I am wary of nations uniting against another people. That's was many in government want to do in China, and Korea as well. It leads to war.

TCK said:

And wondering why you are defending the Russians?

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I'm not. I am merely saying they are not a serious threat to the US or much of the world. The idea that they influence opinion in America is laughable. If it's true, then that tells me there is something terribly wrong with Americans that such a weak and relatively poor country can control their minds. That would be a concern. But if your house falls down because as donkey kicks it, it's not the donkeys fault. It's the fault of a poorly built house. It could have been wind, a tractor or a mild tremor... the problem was the house itself.

If Americans are that easily controlled by Russians, just imagine what the Chinese must be telling them what to do. Heck, imagine what Google is telling them to do.

TCK said:

Immigrants from any country have exactly the same right to be in North America as did the original colonists. There is absolutely no difference. Except the big cheeses at the top making the decisions and causing misery for the declining middle class. So if you are going to pick enemies and sides, think carefully which will be in your best interests.



I go to Texas twice a year. Does the fact that Spanish is the first language in the border towns troubling?

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Wrong, they do not have rights under our constitution, they are guest within our country, A guest.

I speak fluent Spanish, If i didn’t i wouldn’t be able to communicate half of the time here.

TCK said:

On a separate topic. Why does the US kill or attempt to kill their best leaders like Lincoln, Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Reagan. But not their worst leaders. Is there a theory?

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That's a false supposition. First, you would have to define a consistent standard for what "best" means. Then you would have to show that those people are targeted more than others. I don't think you can. It's confirmation bias. People who get shot tend to gain popularity, especially if they are killed.

And in any case, why single out America for this. Leaders who make waves get assassinated everywhere.

This happened this year, while your most recent US example is almost 40 years ago. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-s-gdansk-dies-after-stabbing-radio-zet-says

.X. said:

Wrong, they do not have rights under our constitution, they are guest within our country, A guest.

I speak fluent Spanish, If i didn’t i wouldn’t be able to communicate half of the time here.

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The Constitution came into existence long after the colonization and even longer after other civilizations existed here for generations if not centuries. You can't take a piece of paper and cancel all that out as if it never happened and just restart history in 1787.

Besides, USA would never be what it is today were it not for immigrants. It seems things are going backwards because a third of the US is being resistant to more immigrants.

.X. said:

I speak fluent Spanish, If i didn’t i wouldn’t be able to communicate half of the time here.

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I speak fluent Spanish as well.

.X. said:

Move to Texas and I do promise you , you will change your mind on that

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I don't get this statement. What would change my mind? I go to Texas all the time.

TCK said:

The Constitution came into existence long after the colonization and even longer after other civilizations existed here for generations if not centuries. You can't take a piece of paper and cancel all that out as if it never happened.

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Do you reside in the United States?

The constitution was written for American citizens, it was not written for the protection of illegal immigrants or immigrants for that matter ,as Americans we take an oath to uphold the constitution to protect our freedom and rights. Once a naturalized citizen of the USA , then the constitutional rights are afforded.

Because America has become a free for all , many immigrants do not apply and renew their visa to stay in the country because they feel they have the right to travel freely within the US, they do not fear breaking the law or being deported , because such actions have not taken place on a large scale.

Well wake up, because it is coming, Americans are tired of non citizens not following the law of the land.

Domainace said:

If Americans are that easily controlled by Russians, just imagine what the Chinese must be telling them what to do. Heck, imagine what Google is telling them to do.

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So you think the Chinese and Google are smarter than Russia? And besides, you or someone else posted that yes, both China and Google are trying to influence the US. So keep thinking that Russia is just some other country that is just trying to make ends meet, pay the bills and survive.

.X. said:

Do you reside in the United States?

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I reside in Canada, USA, and Mexico. I travel extensively between the 3 countries.

.X. said:

The constitution was written for American citizens, it was not written for the protection of illegal immigrants or immigrants for that matter ,as Americans we take an oath to uphold the constitution to protect our freedom and rights. Once a naturalized citizen of the USA , then the constitutional rights are afforded.

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True but not entirely. ALL Americans are immigrants. Legal immigrants. All legal immigrants abide by the Constitution and it applies to them as well. This has been the case for over 200 years since 1787. Prior to that the future citizens of the newly formed nation were all illegal immigrants.

Yes, they are supposed to abide by the laws of the United States, No they have not been afforded the constitution nor do they legally have the rights as a United States citizen, immigrants may obtain the rights of the constitution by applying for citizenship, once accepted they will be afforded the rights of the constitution once they have given their oath to the United States, Why do you think that immigrants have to attend and recite at a ceremony.

.X. said:

Yes, they are supposed to abide by the laws of the United States, No they have not been afforded the constitution nor do they legally have the rights as a United States citizen, immigrants may obtain the rights of the constitution by applying for citizenship, once accepted they will be afforded the rights of the constitution once they have given their oath to the United States, Why do you think that immigrants have to attend and recite at a ceremony.

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The point is that the Americas were invaded by illegal immigrants. The countries, including the US, thrive and became the countries they are today thanks to immigrants. The constitution is a legal/political document written by imperfect but well intentioned and highly intelligent men who were not Americans because the USA was not yet a country. They formed the leadership of a rebellion against an oppressive government because they wanted a better and safer life for their families. This is the legacy of the USA. It is the hight of irony that now the beneficiaries of those founding fathers hate the fact that other fathers want the same for their families. Especially since immigrants are not hurting the USA in any way, as the economy is showing.

enlytend said:

Bank of America just announced they will stop financing private prison & immigrant detention companies!

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More Govt contracts for you when they hire more DC bureaucraps and write more wasteful regulations, laws and crapolla. Whoopee. The real solution is just to close Prisons, after all these are racially discriminated people were wrongfully convicted, marginalized and perfectly innocent victims of the capitalism system. We need more free Govt housing, more food stamps. Might as well release all prisoners too anyway since walls are unAmerican.

Open up the borders as we only have 12 years left before the world ends, these are all innocent good human beings, regardless of criminal records or education. They just need those semi or non skilled jobs at slaughter houses, picking strawberries, nurseries, babysitting, Walmart and Burger King. Why not?

All the lazy, entitled Millennials living at age 30 in Mommy and Daddies basement playing online video games and collecting free universal basic income, and soon to have no more student debts to pay, heck they have no reason to work anyway, and for those sorts of jobs Illegal Aliens will do, the Millennials won’t do the work anyway.